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HUGE disagreement with DH


Posted: Apr 1, 2011

I've never been big on social networking.  I keep in touch with friends by phone and meeting for lunch, dinner, parties, et cetera.  DH has myspace, four square and of course Facebook.

He has HUNDREDS of "friends", a lot are friends from high school and friends of friends from HS and of couse co-workers and friends of co-workers. 

He shows me the pics, the posts and the arguments and debates when he finds them funny or interesting.  Last night he and I were looking at one debate about a sports team and he got a "IM request" from some chick whose picture looks like she's all lips and clevage, a 50-something y/o trying to be 20.  He ignored it, but she messaged, "whats the matter luv can't talk now?"  He clicked ignore again and in my best in control tone I told him to explain that, why a woman would even a friend) call him "luv".  Then again an IM, I'm stalking you babe, looking at all your photos.  Who's the old lady?" (referring to me in a picture with him)   grrr!
He says it's just some FB chick that he chats with....  I told him I didn't like it one little bit , but told him if its innocent chat, then lets chat, right now.  He exploded, says I am overreating, showed me how many "chicks" are his "friends" and even showed me his message log with conversations from men and women.   I got full disclosure, got to read the messages, nothing out of sorts, got to see every picture, some are goofy, some old friends send pics showing how they look now, some DO have the "i used to have a crush on you in school" crud...  (we are in our 50s...)
Now, I don't believe that I am a jealous woman, I'm WAY too old for that, but I demand respect and don't like the whole idea of "innocent chatting" between men and women like on FB.  I told him as much and told him he'd better be super duper careful of his wording in chat boxes and that if I ever even sniff the hint of a flirtation he's gonna catch a laptop computer up the side of the head.
He is furious!  "no trust, no faith, you're jealous of nothing.... blah blah blah":   We have never had issues, but that just really hit a nerve.  I wish I could delete his account!!!  I told him I think "virtual cheating and flirting" is just as serious as face to face.  He ended by saying,  look, I'll delete her  "IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY!"   I'm fuming right now.  I think he should nip it in the bud because he shouldn't be flirting, not to "make me happy"... 
Seriously!  What's up with our men!!!???  Are they are middle aged crazy?  OR is me?  I am being unreasonable?  
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re: FB - hema

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If he gave u full disclosure, maybe she's just a chatty flirt. Give him the benefit of the doubt. At least he didn't slam teh computer shut and act like he didn't know what you were talking bout!

I'm sure I will be in the minority here but - here's my opinion (sm)

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I hate what social networking technology has done to our relationships. It allows people to be far more aggressive and inappropriate than they would actually be in person.

If it makes you uncomfortable or unhappy, it is a threat to the relationship. I would NOT be happy with a woman chatting with my significant other who posts a picture like that and talks to him that way, either.

Some say it is innocent but I disagree. It opens a private and dangerously attractive "secrecy" at the least and this can give way to many feelings that people are not expecting, realize and sometimes don't want to acknowledge.

I completely agree with you on the "to make me happy" aspect of his offer. His response should be to offer because it doesn't matter to HIM since he loves you and doesn't want to offend you. Anything less is showing you that he truly does get something from it, whether he feels it is innocent or not. It isn't or he wouldn't be bothered by it.

If it hurts you, it hurts the two of you. He will either care what hurts you and stop it or I think you should sit up and take notice.

What's up with the men? They are men. Many have a great deal of difficulty to turn away any female attention if offered especially when they feel it isn't "cheating" because it's "only online."

No, you are not being unreasonable. In my opinion, his action (ignoring her chat request) and his reaction (getting angry and providing a 'defense' about this woman while refusing to chat with her in YOUR presence) and his final pitch to you (he will do it to make you happy -- not that it is the right thing to do or she doesn't matter to him) tells me he is more than unreasonable...and for a reason.

I'm sorry this is happening to you. I'm also glad you're getting an eye open to his actions and who he finds interesting enough to invest his time chatting with. It might be a clue you shouldn't ignore.

Old Fashioned in Love and Marriage

FB - mt1347

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Completely agree with this post - excellent.

My DH acted the same way when I told him conversations & e-mails... - ndmt

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going on between he and other women were becoming inappropriate. He screamed at me that I didn't trust him all the while telling other women he "luv"-ed them. He did start trying to see these women, actually giving extremely plausible explantions of why he had go to XXX. I really did think I was crazy, too, but I was right. He ended up having an affair and leaving me and our children to fend for ourselves. We are back together now and there is NO texting, FB, e-mail, chat - nothing. My deal was he could stay gone if he needed that in his life.

BTW, hubby made it a point to delete XYZ gal for my benefit and then was just exceptionally careful to cover all evidence he was in touch with her, i.e., new account, calling cards, etc. I am not saying my story will be yours, but DO NOT feel bad for drawing your line in the sand. The more indignant your man is the closer he is to his "friend". He may not even realize how caught up in it he is, but if he is defending it to you with such fury, he's a little wrapped up in something.

fb + cheating - alias

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well, it has been my experience that when the "spouse" gets angry because you are questioning their actions, there is truly something there to get angry about...their guilty conscience. In essence, they were "caught" with their hand in the cookie jar and they try to protect themselves by getting angry and turning it all back on you. It is a defense tactic and nothing more. There is validity to your feelings and they know it. I don't care if you got "full disclosure" or not, she would not be "chatting" with him if she did not expect more, and he would not be "chatting" with her if he was not prepared to give her more. Internet cheating is just as real as face-to-face cheating. Been there, did that. I wish you luck in the future. Keep your eyes wide open and your ear to the ground.

Bravo ... bravo - KnowBetter

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Bravo !! You got it right -- a lot of men (not saying all men, of course) but a lot of men indeed get caught up and they do NOT realize just how caught up they are.

I believe that if a man is truly committed to his woman, he will RESPECT her in every way and not play her for a fool.

If not, then he will be available to another woman's flirtation and temptation. Truth be told, many times the man is so caught up that he is too naive to realize that he is jeopardizing what is most important -- that is the wife/real woman at home!! i.e., his real priority.

Personally, I never compromise my own happiness for the sake of a man who is so caught up in B.S. and flirtation/temptation from an outsider.

BOTTOM LINE: A real gentleman knows how to trust and respect a real lady who is worthy. Just saying....

FROM: A Real Lady

You have to be REALLY careful with that. - Kim

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Back in the days before Mypsace/Facebook the social networking was AOL and at that time I know personally three different couples that the spouse left the other one, left the kids, etc. to go and be with someone they met online.

Also, I was engaged, living with a guy for six years and he did all of the social networking. I wasn't even aware that he and I were having any problems and one day I came home from work to a note from him, saying he left. He had moved all of his things during my 8-hour shift and had left the state to be with a girl he had met online. I had no idea at the time where he even went, because all the note said was "I'm sorry, I had to leave, I love you" (how nice, lol). So, I started digging around in the chat sites he was in and it was like a crazy different world in there. When I was talking to people that knew him, explaining I was his fiance, they were telling me no, that "Ice Babe" was his "girlfriend." I mean, come on, a screen name is my FIANCE of 6 years' girlfriend? It was ridiculous!

Anyways, three months later, he did actually come back, apologizing like crazy, crying, begging, the whole "I made the biggest mistake of my life" story, but I told him if he could leave me for a person that he TYPES to and sees pictures of online, he is NOT the type of person I could marry and trust to spend my life with, so I wouldn't take him back.

So, then fast forward, I did meet the love of my life and got married and had been happily married about eight years. Well my husband and I went through some problems, his job was requiring him to work a lot of hours and he went through a drinking spell, where basically he was at work or drinking. We weren't really getting along and I had Mypsace at the time and then I reached out to a person I met on Myspace, who of course was telling me how he would treat me like I "deserved" to be treated and my husband wasn't appreciative of me, etc. So, instead of trying to work on my relationship with my husband, I was spending my time online and on the phone getting to know this guy and getting relationship advice from this guy and basically virtually cheating on my husband. When you talk to someone online, you get the wonderful side of them, because you get what they WANT you to get. You don't get the every day probelms, the REAL aspects of life. I honestly almost ended up leaving my husband for this seemingly "perfect" guy I met online, but then broke down and told my husband everything and he and I ended up working out our own relationship and it is four years later and I couldn't be happier.

I have a facebook as well with ONLY people that I personlly know (mainly out of town family) on there and I share pictures of my kids, etc. with them, you know rather than mailing them, since we don't see each other often. I won't accept anyone I don't personally know as a friend.

It is VERY easy to get caught up in this "perfect" person you meet online and it seems like they have far way less problems than you do, because they aren't living with you in the "real world" It is a virtual fantasy world.

I think if you are having ANY problems, then I would ask him to delete his page, as overbearing as it sounds, I just would. If my husband had a problem with my page, I would delete it instantly, too many relationships end that way.

You make an awesome point about only showing... - ndmt

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the side you want someone to see. Everyone can be perfect online, can be supportive, tell you the things you want to hear and how bad you have it now. After any length of time in a relationship, who wouldn't respond to that "you are awesome" feeling rather than "what's for supper" or "is the oil changed?"

I find it funny that in one of the chats I found between my husband and another woman he was going on about how he had to mend his own socks. I just remember thinking "yeah - I'd be all over that guy," yet she must have either really liked darning or was looking for someone too tight to buy new socks. Maybe she was super frugal, but to me that just oozed desperation on her end.

Since your DH has given you full disclosure, you could - LaLaMT

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log on as him when he's not around and see what transpires. That's what I would do and did. When I suspected my ex was cheating, I accused him and got the same response, "You're crazy, jealous..." blah, blah blah. so I became a private detective and got the proof I needed. And then I said "Yep I am crazy! Crazy for every marrying you!" And never looked back.

I say do what you gotta do. If you are suspicious, then something not's right. Woman's intuition is powerful and real!

Good luck to you!

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