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Everybody wants to talk about who is going to pay for their - medical care, but I want to focus on

Posted: Nov 8th, 2018 - 5:57 am In Reply to: This has to be a joke. Count me out! - Obamacare was a total failure.

the system itself and the pitfalls. I don't think the system has the patient's best interests at heart. I believe it has its place, but it's not about health all the time. It's about treating symptoms.

I believe we can heal our bodies to some degree. Diabetes type 2 can be reversed. Blood pressure can be controlled, heart disease, etc.

Grow your own food if you can. Many foods are grown in soil that has been depleted. Herbs are extremely healing. Take control of your health. Give up sugar and white flour. Plant medicines are wonderful.

Garlic helps prevent infection. Yarrow did too. Civil War soldiers carried these in their packet. Otzi the Ice Man carried fungus to treat infection, even 5000 years ago. Native Americans used herbs.

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Let's prove single-payer healthcare works! - sm (Views: 748, 2018-11-07, 6:02 pm)
- This has to be a joke. Count me out! - Obamacare was a total failure. (Views: 310, 2018-11-07, 6:39 pm)
  - I'm not baiting anyone. I'm proposing an idea for further discussion. - sm (Views: 282, 2018-11-07, 7:06 pm)
    - How would it impact someone who opted out? - sm (Views: 338, 2018-11-07, 9:20 pm)
      - There are no opt-outs. You have to opt-in and pay in advance. - sm (Views: 382, 2018-11-08, 12:43 am)
      - You know it will eventually when they run out of money. - You will be taxed to pay for it with (Views: 266, 2018-11-08, 4:37 am)
    - Then get investors like they do in business. Keep taxpayers - money out of it. Start your own (Views: 348, 2018-11-08, 4:43 am)
      - They want the government involved because they might - fail if they did it like a real business. (Views: 432, 2018-11-08, 4:44 am)
      - I proposed using the recipients own money through increased taxation. - OP sm (Views: 295, 2018-11-08, 11:04 am)
  - Everybody wants to talk about who is going to pay for their - medical care, but I want to focus on
- Giving a nice sounding name to socialized medicine, - AKA single payer, Medicare for All, (Views: 287, 2018-11-08, 4:08 am)
  - People never learn lessons from socialist failures. They always - say "if the right people were running things. (Views: 296, 2018-11-08, 4:30 am)
  - I don't see how you can call it a welfare program - OP sm (Views: 304, 2018-11-08, 9:49 am)
    - You know money will be shifted from the general funds - to pay for it, i.e. other taxpayers. (Views: 327, 2018-11-08, 11:41 am)
- It will end up just like Social Security or Medicare. A tax - will be added on your paycheck (Views: 244, 2018-11-08, 5:59 am)
- I already belong to a single-payer...SM - Old Anon (Views: 271, 2018-11-08, 7:29 am)
  - Medicare is paid for by taxpayers. It is going bankrupt. - It's like Social Security, dependent (Views: 322, 2018-11-08, 8:14 am)
    - Then maybe they need to get after the - hospitals and doctors (Views: 272, 2018-11-08, 10:32 am)
      - Government regulation of medical industry is what - caused this mess. (Views: 245, 2018-11-08, 11:21 am)
        And Ted Kennedy started those HMOs. - nm (Views: 245, 2018-11-08, 11:39 am)
      - This is the problem with govt paying for anything, student - loans, etc. They can charge whatever (Views: 264, 2018-11-08, 11:40 am)
    - Do not have supplemental...SM - Old Anon (Views: 306, 2018-11-08, 12:08 pm)
      - "hospitals would have to accept what plan paid" - and quality of care would plummet. (Views: 261, 2018-11-08, 12:15 pm)
        That's why they charge $20 for an aspirin to the rest of us. - It really hurts those of us who pay (Views: 277, 2018-11-08, 12:20 pm)
- This is so far off base - Single payer is possible (Views: 243, 2018-11-08, 8:37 pm)