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Giving a nice sounding name to socialized medicine, - AKA single payer, Medicare for All,

Posted: Nov 8th, 2018 - 4:08 am In Reply to: Let's prove single-payer healthcare works! - sm

etc. is all the range with Democratic Socialists. What you are proposing sounds like what Bush proposed with Social Security privatization. You can opt in if you want. The difference with this is gave more control to citizens and less to govt, so the left went CCFCCP (coo coo for cocoa puffs).

The problem with this idea is once a govt program is started it never ends. This just sounds like a backdoor to start another never ending govt welfare program.

Why doesn't some capitalist just start a program like this on their own, sell gold, silver and bronze plans, depending on what you want covered. You pay into it to cover other people and then you request money when you need it. You will have like minded people to pay for your abortions or whatever you need while you pay for theirs. Isn't this truly socialized? You have willing people. This is how the Christian plans work. You make a monthly "donation" or "contribution" (which is what Bill Clinton called your Social Security tax).

Another problem with another govt program is more corruption.

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Let's prove single-payer healthcare works! - sm (Views: 809, 2018-11-07, 6:02 pm)
- This has to be a joke. Count me out! - Obamacare was a total failure. (Views: 366, 2018-11-07, 6:39 pm)
  - I'm not baiting anyone. I'm proposing an idea for further discussion. - sm (Views: 340, 2018-11-07, 7:06 pm)
    - How would it impact someone who opted out? - sm (Views: 394, 2018-11-07, 9:20 pm)
      - There are no opt-outs. You have to opt-in and pay in advance. - sm (Views: 443, 2018-11-08, 12:43 am)
      - You know it will eventually when they run out of money. - You will be taxed to pay for it with (Views: 324, 2018-11-08, 4:37 am)
    - Then get investors like they do in business. Keep taxpayers - money out of it. Start your own (Views: 405, 2018-11-08, 4:43 am)
      - They want the government involved because they might - fail if they did it like a real business. (Views: 489, 2018-11-08, 4:44 am)
      - I proposed using the recipients own money through increased taxation. - OP sm (Views: 355, 2018-11-08, 11:04 am)
  - Everybody wants to talk about who is going to pay for their - medical care, but I want to focus on (Views: 381, 2018-11-08, 5:57 am)
- Giving a nice sounding name to socialized medicine, - AKA single payer, Medicare for All,
  - People never learn lessons from socialist failures. They always - say "if the right people were running things. (Views: 358, 2018-11-08, 4:30 am)
  - I don't see how you can call it a welfare program - OP sm (Views: 362, 2018-11-08, 9:49 am)
    - You know money will be shifted from the general funds - to pay for it, i.e. other taxpayers. (Views: 383, 2018-11-08, 11:41 am)
- It will end up just like Social Security or Medicare. A tax - will be added on your paycheck (Views: 300, 2018-11-08, 5:59 am)
- I already belong to a single-payer...SM - Old Anon (Views: 330, 2018-11-08, 7:29 am)
  - Medicare is paid for by taxpayers. It is going bankrupt. - It's like Social Security, dependent (Views: 379, 2018-11-08, 8:14 am)
    - Then maybe they need to get after the - hospitals and doctors (Views: 334, 2018-11-08, 10:32 am)
      - Government regulation of medical industry is what - caused this mess. (Views: 307, 2018-11-08, 11:21 am)
        And Ted Kennedy started those HMOs. - nm (Views: 303, 2018-11-08, 11:39 am)
      - This is the problem with govt paying for anything, student - loans, etc. They can charge whatever (Views: 323, 2018-11-08, 11:40 am)
    - Do not have supplemental...SM - Old Anon (Views: 365, 2018-11-08, 12:08 pm)
      - "hospitals would have to accept what plan paid" - and quality of care would plummet. (Views: 318, 2018-11-08, 12:15 pm)
        That's why they charge $20 for an aspirin to the rest of us. - It really hurts those of us who pay (Views: 332, 2018-11-08, 12:20 pm)
- This is so far off base - Single payer is possible (Views: 312, 2018-11-08, 8:37 pm)