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The list of things Obama didn't know (sm)Posted: Oct 29, 2013
"Help fight liberals by donating today..." - I'd rather fight partisanship instead. [ In Reply To ..]
So what you are saying is, you want us all to come (sm) - OP [ In Reply To ..]
together and support this President. All these things that he has either lied about or was ignorant of, these are okay with you? Try discussing this instead of posting pictures of the flag. Kumbaya and all that is great, but we need a leader, not a liar.
That was much more succinct than my - response below. :) [ In Reply To ..]
and exactly the point I was trying to make.
No. That is not what I said. - sm [ In Reply To ..]
I was noting the blaring partisanship of the website you sent me to and made a comment about it.
It made me think that if we as a country are going to fix our problems, we would do a better job of it if we worked together, instead of trying to tear each other down.
I posted the flag because it represents the UNITED States of America, and we would be better served to live up to the "United" part.
As far as the president, I'm well aware of his faults, just as I was aware of the faults of previous presidents. I don't think he is any worse than most of them, and I believe he is far better than many.
Whether or not you feel the same way, I hope we can be polite about it.
I believe there are some rough times ahead for (sm) - OP [ In Reply To ..]
this country, and it would be nice if we could all come together - rather it will be NECESSARY. I have what I consider to be well-supported beliefs about this man, however, and don't think he and most of the country have the same common goals. We will see. Whether you like the site or not, if you read the article, we can discuss or you can refute each claim. Don't shoot the messenger.
OP, all cabinet and intelligence officers are extremely - powerful people who have giant jobs [ In Reply To ..]
to do. Given the longstanding practice of plausible deniability, PLUS all the presidents who weren't as smart, as educated and experienced as those under them, just not up to the job, I'm never happy to hear a President "didn't know" and certainly never just believe it.
However, the cabinet and intelligence officers run their departments under the authority and general direction of the President, with occasional specific instructions, and only report what they believe he needs and wants to know. Necessary SOP, no shenanigans involved. Inevitably every president is surprised and dismayed at some of the things millions of federal employees do during their tenure; many ongoing employees are far more interested in building their own power than serving their country. And always will be. Really not knowing is a real problem for cabinet secretaries and their department heads too.
So, for me, I'm never happy at "I didn't know," but not auto-alarmed at it either. Certainly at this point you and I are obviously taking our information from very different sources. We could almost be on different planets -- mine where there's nothing new going on and we're no more likely to collapse than we ever were.
What would make me very unhappy would be to come to believe that the President had lost CONTROL of his presidency and that those under him went rogue and DECEIVED and deliberately kept the president in the dark, taking actions the President never intended, or perhaps just didn't fully understand.
Every president has to worry about this happening, and we saw it during both the Reagan and Bush II presidencies, IMO because of a combination of both willingness to have their underlings ignore laws while keeping them plausibly denied and of themselves being too easily deceived. We have not seen anything like that -- yet -- during this presidency.
Yes, i felt the same way when Bush was installed - into the presidency [ In Reply To ..]
You said: ...we need a leader, not a liar
If we had had leadership instead of *liars* when Bush and Cheney were at the helm, we would not have spent trillions on a fake war, earned untold numbers of new enemies, and lost tens of thousands of American soldiers to death and destruction.
The republicans do the same things. (sm) - Libby [ In Reply To ..]
I've received literally HUNDREDS of emails from democrats, hostile, angry and advising advising that if I donated $3.00, then everything is going to be all right.
It's the "same-old, same-old" bundle of propaganda. I will sign their petitions, but I won't donate any money.
Fight Ignorance - Shel [ In Reply To ..]
Fight the 'defense of ignorance'...I didn't know that? Did I do that? What is that? Who is that? I saw it on TV with you guys....translation, "I have absolutely no idea of what is going on in my own administration."
All presidents lose when they have to say they don't - know. It's far from a freeby, even if there [ In Reply To ..]
isn't much of anything to uncover. Both parties love to be able to maneuver an opposing politician into this position. So the GOP scored points here.
Bottom line is, though, although they can get people worked up about it, they know Obamacare's moving ahead, and at this point the problems that show up with the implementation are simply being used as ammunition to attack the opposing party.
There are other issues still to be fought over and that can still be won, or at least have losses minimized, budget, immigration, etc. So, for the smart players at least, if not some of the clueless amateur doofuses we send to Congress, the current fight isn't about Obamacare and the supposed problems of policyholders at all.
I See A Pattern Here - *Seriously [ In Reply To ..]
Ã¢€œAmericans expect their president to lead, not feign ignorance when the going gets tough...." Ã¢€“ Matt Gorman, NRCC Spokesman
When pressed for details regarding the ideal President, Gorman went on to say that he longs for the days when President's feigning ignorance would be a thing of the past. The days when a President meant what he said and said what he meant. The days when a man like President Bush would confidently declare to the American people:
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
"Ah, yes," Gorman went on to state, "give me the good old days when a President did not feign ignorance but actually was ignorant. And the days when the going got tough, a President did not feign ignorance but swore to tell the truth and nothing but the truth. They just don't make them like Reagan anymore. The guy was the perfect leader. We gave him his marching orders, and he did what he was told and said what was on the cue cards."
Arms for hostages? "I do not remember," said Reagan, "I do not recollect." Now there was a patriot who knew where the buck stopped. You raise taxes on the middle class, and lower them on the rich, and the buck stops there in the upper class.
I'd suggest you read up on the concept of - plausible deniability [ In Reply To ..]
It's a term coined by the intelligence community during the Kennedy administration for the practice of deliberately withholding information from senior officials, including the president, in order to protect them from repercussions in the event that illegal or unpopular espionage or investigative agency activities become public knowledge. The practice involves the construct of loose, informal power structures and chains of command that can be denied if necessary.
Attempts to put limitations on the practice were addressed in the Hughes-Ryan Act of 1974 and the Intelligence Oversight Act of 1980, but were ultimately ineffective due to purposeful vague wording and loopholes. Below is a link to an interesting article relative to Reagan's plausible deniability that became evident during the Iran-Contra hearings back in 1987.
Nothing new found here in this "Complete List" of whatever. It's been going on for quite a while under a dozen or so presidents from both sides of the fence ever since the US spy apparatus was first established.
Another List Of OBAMA LIES USING OBAMA'S OWN WORDS::Sep 02, 2012This is a quite a long list. Enjoy! Please note OBAMA's words in quotes from OBAMA interviews, speeches, all freely stated nby OBAMA.
In his memoir, Obama writes of one of the watershed moments of his racial awareness — time and again in remarkable detail. It is a story about a Life magazine article that influenced him. The report was about a black man who tried to bleach his skin white. When Obama was told no such article c ...
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OBAMA LIST OF LIES::Sep 01, 2012
Below is a list of Obama’s documented lies so far with the most recent lies first. If you see we are missing a documented lie Submit the lie here.
Lies During Fourth Year
“I am told that Governor Romney’s new running mate, Paul Ryan, might be around Iowa the next few days,” he said while in Council Bluffs, Iowa. “He is one of the leaders of Congress standing in the way. So if you happen to see Congressman Ryan, tell him how important this farm bill is to ...
Obama's Enemies ListSep 19, 2012http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444464304577537233908744496.html
This is chilling. ...
Obama's Impressive List Of FirstsMar 28, 2012We must give credit where credit is due. . .here's Obama's Impressive list of firsts:§ First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student,then deny he was a foreigner.§ First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.§ First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.§ First President to have a social security number from a state hehas never lived in.§ First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rati ...
List Of Obama Failures SINCE IN OFFICESep 02, 2012
Exposing The Lies of those Around President Barack Obama
List of Lies
Obama Lies Directory
Lies About Obama
Obama Lies Badges
List of Obama’s Failures
It’s hard to think of a president that has been more of an Epic Failure than President Obama. Even Carter is glad this guy came along, so at least he knows he is no longer the worst president ever. Here is just a short list of Obama’s Fail ...
Another List Of Obama Incompetence/lack Of History KnowledgeFeb 18, 2015
Truth is, Obama IQ much lower (no surprise) than touted by lefties - look it up.
You may recall that a few weeks ago that President Obama spoke of three former Presidents making prisoner swaps at the end of wars which took place on their watch, "much like this swap" he said convincingly.
CNN News carried this quote:
“This is what happens at the end of wars,” President Barack Obama boasted Tuesday when he ...
! 10 Things Obama Doesn't Want You To Know About BerwickJul 09, 2010
Top 10 Things Obama Doesn't Want You to Know About Donald Berwick
by Michelle Oddis (more by this author)
Posted 07/07/2010 ETUpdated 07/07/2010 ET
President Obama bypassed Congress Wednesday and through a "recess appointment” put Donald Berwick -- a leading advocate of rationing healthcare -- in charge of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services. Ã¢€Â¨Ã¢€Â¨Berwick will now spear head efforts to cut $500 billion in Medicare a ...
20 Things I Trust More Than Barack ObamaApr 16, 2015
1. Mexican tap water
2. A porcupine with a “pet me” sign
3. Bill Clinton, with my teenage daughter
4. A fart while fighting the flu
5. An elevator ride with Ray Rice
6. Taking pills or a drink offered by Bill Cosby
7. A Bigfoot sighting
8. A Hillary Clinton w ...
List Of Obama's "Green Energy" FailuresOct 18, 2012Read it and weep - all of us. ...
Why Obama Didn't Lie About Troops In IraqNov 09, 2009This article goes to the campaign promise then-Senator Obama made concerning reduction of US forces in Iraq. Read it and you, too, will understand that the situation is not unilateral but bilateral. With this recent vote, now, troops will be withdrawn---after the Iraqi Jan. election.
BAGHDAD — After weeks of political stalemate, Iraq approved a law on Sunday to administer a critical national election in January, a significant milestone for its fragile democracy an ...
Didn't He Criticize Obama For The Executive Orders?Apr 26, 2017This one really is terrible. Bye bye national parks. Is this all just a game to him? ...
The Iran Agreement. Guess Obama Didn't Read The News Yet.Apr 05, 2015Saw a video by the Iranian Foreign Minister debunking the framework that Obama states is the real deal. I do NOT want to go on any Middle East site to see this video, so I will continue to look so those naysayers that state only warmongers don't want this deal can be appeased by TRUTH.He stated what Obama told the American people, is totally wrong, according to the agreement. He said none of iran's nuclear facilities, including the Fordow center buried under a mountain, will be cl ...
H.R. 1 Didn't Pass In The Senate 56-44. In Case You Didn't KnowMar 09, 2011that was the pubs $61 billion spending bill. Now Reid just put an amendment in #149. Haven't read it but now they're voting on the dem version which only cuts $6.5 billion. Ya know that will pass since the pubs are outvoted. ...
NEA Reading ListMar 04, 2011Recommended reading for teachers from the NEA website. You just can't have enough radicals/grassroots organizers. Agitate + Aggravate + Educate + Organize
Recommended Reading: Saul Alinsky, The American Organizer
A Resource for Every Organizer & Anyone Contemplating Action in Their Community
NEA recommends the following Saul Alinsky books to those members of our Association who are involved in grassroots organizing, especially ...
Heres A List Nov 01, 2010This site is the preview version of Obama Achievements Center. It’s a work in progress. Far too much time has been spent putting the spotlight on complaints while significant achievements are either ignored, not reported, or minimized. (from "about site")
While you certainly probably will not agree with each and every one, this is especially for those of you who say there "aren't any accomplishments". ...
Full List Of Dec 18, 2012
Full List of Obamacare Tax Hikes
Obamacare law contains 20 new or higher taxes on American families and small businesses
Taxpayers are reminded that the President’s healthcare law is one of the largest tax increases in American history.
Obamacare contains 20 new or higher taxes on American families and small businesses.
Arranged by their respective effective dates, below is the total list of all $500 billion-plus in tax hikes (over the next ten years) in Obamacare, where ...
Hillary's Hit ListJan 14, 2014Just be cause they didn't endorse her? That's quite a vindictive lady there. Then again, everyone knows that she carries a grudge.
I wonder if the rest of the list will come out later. I'm sure some news sources are trying and digging very hard to find the rest of the list. I only posted one source but you can find if on Business Insider, AP, NY Post, Yahoo, etc., etc., etc. I really like the Politico post because it gives more info.
Who Thinks It Is OK For Someone On The No-fly ListDec 27, 2015 ...
Grocery List Anymore? Dec 02, 2009More and more, people seem to just use cell phones at the store instead of using a list. We were at Krogers a little while ago, and encountered at least 20 people on cell phones while shopping, asking what to get, etc. All ages too, from teens to the elderly. Drives me nuts!!!
Way To Go, Liar-in-Chief, One More For The List (sm)Sep 19, 2012and please don't whine for proof. His videos are all over You Tube, about his so called green energy and China, and why OUR green energy plans didn't work out.
Solar panels paid for by MY stimulus money (and yours, but most of you don't care), made in China, installed in Federal Bldg in Illinois. Bet you won't hear this on Lamestream.
Craig's List Nightmare(s)Feb 11, 2013WOW, I never. Put tickets on Craig's List for a Fleetwood Mac concert and cannot believe the things people expect. Selling the tickets at face value not looking for any profit.
First guy wanted me to deliver them to his house in Chicago -- a 3 hour trip for me 1 way. Did not happen.
Second person wanted to pay half of what I had them listeed for and pay for her gas to and from the concert. WHAT????
Third person wanted the tickets. I drove the 3 hours to Chic ...
List Of Wikileaks FindingsJul 24, 2016I didn't click on every link. Reading the subject line alone speaks volumes. I guess there is no limit to the depths of depravity the DNC will go.
Call me old fashioned and naive, but I never thought the USA would tolerate such corruption. Debbie Whatshername shouldn't be the only one taking the heat here. ...
Here Is The List Of Those Who Shouldn't Be WorkingMar 03, 2015List ...
Of The List Of Those Who Say They'll Leave The CountryNov 09, 2016Don't let the door hit you on the way out...and be sure to turn out the lights in those freakin' multimillion dollar mansions that this country provided you, you ingrates. ...
The List Of Trump's Invites To TonightSep 26, 2016Mark Geist, who survived the 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, has endorsed Trump and appeared in a National Rifle Association adcriticizing Clinton.
Karen Vaughn, a Gold Star mother, organized a meeting between Trump and several Gold Star families shortly after the Republican nominee lashed out at the Khan family. She said she was not offended by Trump's attacks on the Khans.
Retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn serves as an adviser to ...
L-o-n-g List Of EXPERTS Who Say OBL Died Years AgoMay 03, 2011In addition to these sources, a deluge of other heads of state as well as intelligence agency professionals have gone on record over the past nine years to state their belief that Bin Laden was likely dead, after it became clear that the Al-Qaeda leader’s health was in severe decline as a result of kidney disease at the end of 2001. These include;
- Former CIA officer and hugely respected intelligence & foreign policy expert Robert Baer, who in 2008 when asked about Bin Laden by a rad ...
Craig's List Ad For Wall Street JobOct 12, 2011http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/pro-obama-working-families-party-seeks-advertises-for-professional-activists-to-fight-wall-street/ ...
Woodward's Growing List Of ColleaguesFeb 28, 2013for reporting on something that's unflattering to the Obama Administration. They're treating him like elephants treat their elders - pushing him out.
Scroll down for the actual tweets.
Here's Something For All Of Us - Complete List Of Broken Promises.(sm)Aug 23, 2013Oh, and just in case it's not clear, this doesn't have anything to do with our former President. These promises all belong to the current WH occupant.