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Who is Controlling Obama?


Posted: Nov 23, 2014

In the 18 months since the election, our new president seems to have undergone a 180 reversal in his politics. As well as reneging on nearly all his campaign promises, he has continued and expanded the pro-war, pro-torture, pro-covert assassination and anti-civil liberties policies of his predecessor George W. Bush. Eighteen months into Bush’s presidency, the major corporate players who influenced Bush and Cheney were blatantly obvious. Bush had extensive prior (family) ties with the oil industry and Cheney with both oil companies and defense contractors. While Obama also seems to be at the beck and call of corporate backers, exactly who they are is much less clear. The question has led many analysts on both sides of the political aisle – to take a closer look at his background before he came on the national stage as a US senator from Illinois senator in 2004.

Obama’s secrecy and evasiveness about his early life hasn’t helped. In fact there are gaping holes in his resume that have led to all kinds of (mainly right wing) conspiracy theories about the authenticity of his birth certificate, his secret adherence to the Muslim religion, a possible stint with the CIA during the years nobody remembers him at Columbia, and his allegiance to a secret international Marxist/socialist conspiracy. I think the birth certificate issue is a red herring to distract people from growing evidence that Obama has a past in intelligence. Likewise a so-called Marxist/socialist conspiracy would require financing – and wealthy elites are very reluctant to fund Marxist-Leninist groups that seek to deprive them of their wealth.

According to Obama’s unofficial biographer Webster Tarpley and Wayne Madsen, a former National Security Agency employee and member of the Association for Intelligence Officers, more and more credible evidence is surfacing that Obama had some type of intelligence career before entering public life. The Russians certainly thought he did when they detained Senators Obama and Lugar in 2004 following a three-day fact finding mission related to disarmament talks. In fact they accused Obama of spying for the British (?) and demanded to search his aircraft (as he was leaving, not entering, the country).

 

Even though there was no date provided when this article was written, I thought this was an interesting article, providing some information which I have never heard.  I do believe there are other powers pulling Obama's radical strings, though.

 

Link:  http://www.darkgovernment.com/news/who-is-controlling-obama/

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Interesting questions, but just like with Ponnuru in the thread below, we can speculate all day - what's needed is indisputable evidence

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Though some interesting questions are posed in this article (thank you for being fair and presenting the "Bush" issues), in my opinion, that's all articles like this do, raise more questions than answers.

In the end, it boils down to belief rather than fact, and everyone has the right to "believe" whatever they want. Who knows, they may be right - but it is still only belief until proven otherwise.

I can "believe" the strange YouTubers who tell us that all politicians are controlled by the Illuminati, who are actually Reptilian shape-shifters from the planet Xenu, but that doesn't make it fact.

(I don't believe any of that, by the way, just taking out my point to the point of absurdity. I do, however, believe that lobbyists "control" politicians in both parties.)

But in fact, how productive is it for us to speculate on these things we'll never get an answer to other than a passing, "Hmm, not sure I trust THAT guy much, without more explanation/information."

I think the problem in our society these days is that we need to separate the person from their ideas and/or politics more. Sometimes, we don't like either, but sometimes the idea is a good one even if the person isn't.

For example in the thread below, not only was Ponnuru's background questionable, I thought his points were contradictory themselves.

Now if Ponnuru's ideas had been sound argument, I'd be able to say, "Hmm, interesting stance he took, considering his own questionable background, but he does have a point."

But I...really can't say that, wish I could.

Or another example, GWB.

As much as it behooves me to say this, though we know much of his background and I still find him a deplorable human being, SOME of his ideas (or hand-fed him from others) were decent, like immigration reform.

I also agreed with his initial actions on bombing the C out of Afghanistan, when they refused to give up OBL just after 9/11 - it was only when he turned efforts towards Iraq based on BS I had a problem with.

Sometimes, even crappy people occasionally y have a great idea. Sometimes great people have crappy idea.

What I'm saying is, maybe we shouldn't always throw out the baby with the bathwater?

Control - Awake

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id6nCa_OTEM

This is just bizarre. I'm 3-1/2 minutes into the 7 minute cartoon - and I have no idea what its about - sm

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I feel like I'm wasting my time watching a cartoon. There is nothing political about this and I'm halfway through with it, so not going to waste any more time.

Is there something political about this cos I haven't found it yet? And I have no idea what the message is about anyway. It looks like someone on drugs put it together.

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