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We must give Libs a pass on Benghazi.

Posted: Jan 15, 2014

They probably had no idea of the bipartisan Senate report that came out today. The MSM has been too busy "reporting" on Bridgegate and finding dirt on Christie; they didn't devote any time to "real" news. Plus, they really don't care about anything except putting on that lipstick.

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It's unfair and unproductive to generalize - sm

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I'm not sure how you know what MSM is reporting if you don't watch MSM. Anyhow, I linked to an article I (a Lib) picked up earlier.

It's always been my opinion that throwing out accusations or even attempting to speculate (Rice) before anything is known as fact, especially immediately after an event that happens on the other side of the world, can lead to misinformation.

As a side, I wish we could introduce topics without blanket vindictiveness aimed at our opposing peers in the context of inviting mature, intelligent discussion.

Generalization because I have - no names...

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...of previous posters. These are all generalized posts. All week long, MSM made no mention, or very little, of this Senate report. They've been fixated on Christie.

but Senate report has nothing to do with Christie - sm

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When I read a post similar to yours I feel like (a) I either have to defend myself for being a liberal which detracts from the discussion. Or (b) explaining that many stories are covered on a daily basis (I don't know about the others on this board, liberal or conservative, but I'm able to take in more than one issue at a time). Or (c) bringing up how important the Christie abuse of power story is, which has noting to do with the topic you brought up, and no doubt I would be accused of deflection when in reality you were the poster who brought up Christie in your post about Benghazi.

Again, if we could just bring up a topic and discuss it without name-calling or generalizing or predicting what the other side or my/your side thinks, it might make for more intelligent conversation.

You're worried about the Christie "abuse of power" and yet (sm) - LM

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you let the Community Organizer in Chief get away with lie after lie after lie after lie. That's how we know you're a liberal - you don't even have to tell us.

But it's okay to make generalizations about republicans? - Okay then

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I can see where this is going. This board has many posts where people are making generalizations about republicans. Now that its called out about the liberals doing it we get the "its unfair and unproductive". Not trying to argue here, but I don't understand that one.

well, I didn't make any generalizations and your point - is taken.

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I was just addressing this thread because I think it's a great discussion. The Beghazi investigation is finally getting to the bottom of things and worth discussing. It's hard to think a mature discussion can be had when one side is attacked before even getting a word in.

It's wrong for both sides.

FWIW, I (and no one knows who I am obviously, but...) will not sink to that level, nor will I be baited into engaging in personal attacks. I may have in the past, but not lately and not again. It is hypocritical to expect something from someone that I do not practice myself.

I didn't make a personal attack against you. - I only stated what it is I see on the board

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I never said you did anything. If people want to report this post too, then go ahead and report me. I'm not personally attacking you or others. I was just making a general statement that I see a lot of generalizations about republicans on this board, but I don't see this same type of post that you made directed at the liberal posters when they make generalizations against republicans.

I'm sure I'll be reported for giving my opinion. So be it.

I didn't say you were. I was agreeing with you. - we all do it nm

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I wish you could show us one of those repubilcan generalizations - commie kool aid drinker

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It wouldn't make a difference. If you agree with the - generalizations

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you will never see it as a generalization.

So go down the board, read all the posts and you will see all the generalizations.

Do you really believe - old and burned out

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it is possible to have mature, intelligent discussions on this board? How can you move on when one side insists on equating liberals and progressives with "Commies?"

because this board is not my life - !

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you rock, oabo :-)

And the same goes for the other side insisting - on equating conservatives

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with TPers, nazi's, racists, uninformed, and all the other insults.

The facts remain, however, that both parties have been infiltrated. If your beliefs are the same as the communist party or the same as any other party then that is what it is. People can hide behind another party all they want, but when the issues align with a party it is what it is and you cannot change facts. If people are ashamed of having the same viewpoints as communists then they need to change their party. The progressive party and the communist party have the same issues and view points. Even the president of the communist party came out and said so. You just can't change facts.

It's all over MSNBC right now... - I wonder

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if conservatives will reject MSNBC's in depth coverage of the Senate report that is happening right now and slap on the usual MSNBC Kool-Aid label, or will they accept it because it's what they want to hear.

Did you care about any other embassy - attacks that have occured?

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The Benghazi attacks (the consulate and the CIA compound) are absolutely not unprecedented even though they're being treated that way by Republicans who are deliberately ignoring anything that happened prior to Inauguration Day, January 20, 2009.

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/13-benghazis-that-occurre_b_3246847.html

And in any of those - attacks...

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did the president and/or the state department lie to the American people about what happened?

We do care anytime something happens to people we send to other countries, but we also care when we are lied to.

And in any of those attacks - sm

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...did the State Dept refuse to help?

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