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Survey says! Over half of all statements made


Posted: Dec 18, 2014

But some already knew that. 

 

I am still confident in my choices, NPR, CNN, and Fareed Zakaria on Sunday morning.

 

My favorite parts of the article were:

1.  That you could listen to Fox and then flip a coin to determine heads its half-true, tails its a lie.

2.  NPR informed are best informed.

3.  And that people who don't watch any news at all are better informed than Fox viewers.

 

For example, a PublicMind survey out of Fairleigh Dickinson University found that “people who said they consumed no news” fared better on a current events questionnaire than people who had been using Fox News to find out what was going on in the world. Let that sink in for a moment. People who categorically don’t watch the news know more than people who watch a network whose primary function is ostensibly to relay the news.

Adding insult to injury, it was the only network that ranked below “blind ignorance” the survey. (By the way, the most informed audience was that of NPR.)

 

I would argue that "The Public Mind Survey" might not rank the value of the news so much as the capability of the people watching the news.  It seems it was a comprehension quiz to reflect which news source had better info.  Don't think that really works, but it may give insight as to which people watch which stations. 

 

So, next time you overhear a Fox News host boldly stating their position as fact, flip a coin. Heads it’s half true, tails it’s Pants on Fire. Either way, switch the station.

 

Explanation for the ratings?  Fantasy sells? 

 

 

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/09/analysis-over-half-of-all-statements-made-on-fox-news-are-false/

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Jonathan Gruber was right again! - wink wink NM

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NM

Fareed Zakaria was busted for plagiarism - more than once. nm

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nm

And still more intelligent than most of the news - crews rolled together

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Who took the survey? - NPC

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Want some Kool-Aid? LOL!

Who knows? But Jameson Parker reported it as fact. - LOL - just another blogger.

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nm

And in other news, the sky is blue. - :)

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One more for Gruber. YAY, Gruber. - LM

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I tend to disagree with your opinion. - Truthhurts

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“The comparisons are interesting, but be cautious about using them to draw broad conclusions. We use our news judgment to pick the facts we’re going to check, so we certainly don’t fact-check everything. And we don’t fact-check the five network groups evenly. CBS, for instance, doesn’t have a cable network equivalent, so we haven’t fact-checked pundits and CBS personalities as much.”

“Our score cards only include statements made on that network by a pundit or a host or paid staffer. That means they do not include statements made by elected leaders, candidates or party officials. We feel it’s difficult to hold a network accountable for the comments of a politician.”

Also, if a Fox News host appears on NBC and makes a claim that we fact-check, that rating would appear on the NBC page. In this case, it’s about the network that aired the content, not the person who said it.

If you take the false reporting, you have to look AT the false rating comment by Politifact to see why they gave this a false rating. You will find that most are because of a number, which Politifact would point out. Take the Fox File, for instance: Bill O’Reilly’s comment on shootings by police got a “Mostly False” because Politifact “Government’s best data is flawed,” or take George Will’s Ebola comment where some doctors state Ebola can spread by a sneeze or a cough. At the time, that’s what some doctors stated, but Politifact rated that false because it was taken out of context, but a doctor did say that. Note also, Dick Cheney statement that "We have four combat-ready brigades out of 40 in the U.S. Army." And it was rated false. Why? Because “7 would be more accurate, maybe more,” according to Politifact which is really nit-picking. I would rate a statement like that as Half True or Mostly True because Cheney wasn’t off  on the number that much according to Politifact’s research.

You also have to take in account how much fact checking was done for each network. While looking at a lot of the various statements made by these networks and their hosts, From Politifact's website, they stated:


From Politifact's website link you posted are the TRUE statements: “The comparisons are interesting, but be cautious about using them to draw broad conclusions. We use our news judgment to pick the facts we’re going to check, so we certainly don’t fact-check everything. And we don’t fact-check the five network groups evenly. CBS, for instance, doesn’t have a cable network equivalent, so we haven’t fact-checked pundits and CBS personalities as much.”


“Our score cards only include statements made on that network by a pundit or a host or paid staffer. That means they do not include statements made by elected leaders, candidates or party officials. We feel it’s difficult to hold a network accountable for the comments of a politician.”


"Also, if a Fox News host appears on NBC and makes a claim that we fact-check, that rating would appear on the NBC page. In this case, it’s about the network that aired the content, not the person who said it."
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If you take the false reporting, you have to look AT the false rating comment by Politifact to see why they gave this a false rating. You will find that most are because of a number, which Politifact would point out. Take the Fox File, for instance:

Bill O’Reilly’s comment on shootings by police got a “Mostly False” because Politifact “Government’s best data is flawed,” or take George Will’s Ebola comment where "some doctors state Ebola can spread by a sneeze or a cough."  At the time, that was a statement made by ome doctors, but Politifact rated that statement false because it was taken out of context. Note also, Dick Cheney statement that "We have four combat-ready brigades out of 40 in the U.S. Army." And it was rated false. Why? Because “7 would be more accurate, maybe more,” according to Politifact which is really nit-picking. I would rate a statement like that as Half True or Mostly True because Cheney wasn’t off  on the number that much according to Politifact’s research.



You also have to take in account how much fact checking was done for each network. While looking at a lot of the various statements made by these networks and their hosts, there’s only a rating for mainly 1, 2, or 3 statements. That’s not quite an overview of a network. In fact, that's hardly rating the network's true/false statements at all. Most of the statements of MSNBC etc.and their hosts only had 1 or 2 statements checked, while Fox had 3 or more statements checked. A little lop-sided I would say. :)



Excellent post as usual. You always do your research. - Abby

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My point is that they seem to pick up the minority - "facts" and report

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them as true. You can find some scientist to say something on almost anything, where the majority would not agree.

Sort of like suing someone. All you have to do is find a lawyer to file a lawsuit. Doesn't make a viable lawsuit, just means you are suing someone.

Well that is certainly better than what Pundifact found. sm - Rosie

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"Pundifact found Fox News to have only told the truth 18 percent (15 of 83) of the time for the statements they checked. And even of that 18 percent, only 8 percent of what they said was completely “True.” The other 10 percent was rated as “Mostly True.” A staggering 60 percent (50 of 83) comments were found to be either “Mostly False,” “False,” or “Pants on Fire.” The other 22 percent were rated “Half True.” Essentially well over half of what Punditfact has fact-checked on Fox News has been a lie and only 18 percent has been deemed factual." - See more at: http://www.forwardprogressives.com/fact-checking-site-finds-fox-news-tells-truth-18-percent-time/#sthash.OWEz6iVU.dpuf

Oh, Pundifacts. Progressives. Fox chews them up - and spits them out.(sm)

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As for me, I mostly laugh at them.

Pundifact is a branch of Politifact, that's why I posted Politifact's comments - Truthhurts

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They are NOT 2 separate fact checking sites.

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