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Section 8 housing

Posted: Apr 23, 2010

OK, Section 8 housing is defined as:

"The Housing Choice Voucher Program is a type of Federal assistance provided by the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) dedicated to sponsoring subsidized housing for low-income families and individuals".

So, this is a type of government assistance program, right?

Does it seem a little odd that someone (who normally is against any type of government assistance such as welfare, handouts, etc) would think it's an acceptable way to profit from the system?

I'm thinking it's similar to Michelle Bachmann benefitting from the farm subsidies her family receives, all the while rants about government handouts and rants about how she wants to take the government back.

Sarah Palin benefit from free health care, but for some reason doesn't think others should have the same benefit.

Does this fall under "I can't make this stuff up"?

To me, it sounds like something a "bleeding heart" liberal like myself would do, but then......I don't get on a soapbox criticizing all welfare, health care reform, and other controversial government programs.

Am I missing something?

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Nope, you're not missing anything -- it's call - LOL2

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supreme hypocrisy

Sources Please - sm

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You certainly are missing something!!!!!

There you go. - OK?

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http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/1209/Antisocialist_Bachmann_got_250k_in_federal_farm_subsidies.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/sarah-palin/7409555/Sarah-Palins-family-sought-health-care-in-Canada.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/08/palin-crossed-border-for_n_490080.html

Here you go!!! - Okay?

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"Palin Condemned for Medical Decisions Her Parents Made When She Was Five

By Aaron Goldstein, on March 9th, 2010
Her parents' actions when she was five make her a hypocrite.

Perhaps it's a case of cause and effect.

Sarah Palin speaks. Liberals foam at the mouth.

Sadly, it's a condition for which there is no known medical treatment.

The latest outbreak of this condition broke out after Palin spoke in Calgary, Alberta over the weekend. During her speech, she disclosed that her family used to seek health care in Canada's Yukon Territory during her early years in Alaska.1 Palin told her audience:

Believe it or not â�� this was in the '60s â�� we used to hustle on over the border for health care that we would receive in Whitehorse. I remember my brother, he burned his ankle in some little kid accident thing, and my parents had to put him on a train and rush him over to Whitehorse and I think, isn't that kind of ironic now. Zooming over the border, getting health care from Canada.2

When word of Palin's remarks came to the attention of the liberal media they immediately started showing frothing symptoms. Sam Stein of The Huffington Post was patient zero:

The irony, one guesses, is that Palin now views Canada's health care system as revolting: with its government-run administration and 'death-panel'-like rationing. Clearly, however, she and her family once found it more alluring than, at the very least, the coverage available in rural Alaska. Up to the age of six, Palin lived in a remote town near the closest Canadian city, Whitehorse.3

Where does one begin?

Well, I think it's fairly safe to presume that five-year-old Sarah Heath was not in charge of making the family's medical decisions. When Chuck and Sally Heath took their children to receive health care in Canada it was a country that was in the midst of Trudeaumania. The Guess Who was its most popular rock band while Bobby Orr and Serge Savard were its best hockey players. Let's just say a lot has changed in Canada in the intervening four decades up to and including Canada's health care system.

Canadian Medicare was in its infancy in the mid-1960s. It was in 1966 when Canada's Parliament passed the Medical Care Act to provide coverage for doctors' services. Although the federal government set the standards it was left up to the provincial and territorial governments to administer the program.4 Not all jurisdictions joined the program right away. The last hold out would not join until 1972. That holdout was none other than the Yukon Territory.5

Simply put, at the time Sarah Palin's parents sought medical treatment in Canada, the Yukon Territory was not part of the Medicare program. But even if the Yukon had been integrated into Canada's health care system, since the Heaths were U.S. residents they presumably would have been required to pay a fee for any medical services obtained in Canada. Indeed, the U.S. Embassy's Consular Services advises Americans planning to travel to Canada, "Tourists and temporary visitors do not qualify for this health care plan and should have their own insurance to cover medical expenses."6

Now Palin's critics might have had a point had she sought medical treatment for herself or her family in Canada while she was Governor of Alaska. Alas there is no evidence she ever took that route. But we do have an instance of a Canadian Premier who recently sought medical care in the United States.

Last month, Newfoundland & Labrador Premier Danny Williams traveled to Florida to undergo a heart procedure that was unavailable in his province.7 Williams, a Progressive Conservative, makes no apology for his decision. "This was my heart, my choice and my health," said Williams after the procedure had been completed.

Naturally there were those who criticized Williams' decision to seek medical care outside of Canada. Amongst them was Dr. Wilbert Keon, a retired heart surgeon and currently a Conservative member of the Canadian Senate. While Keon concedes Williams could not have had the procedure done in Newfoundland & Labrador, he argues that the Premier could have had the procedure done in several Canadian cities including Edmonton, Montreal, Toronto and Ottawa. "I can't imagine anything that couldn't be done in Canada that is done in America."9 However, it is also worth noting that Keon did not state when it could be done in Canada.

In 1976, Keon founded the University of Ottawa Heart Institute.10 How long do cardiac patients in Ottawa wait for bypass surgery? According to the latest data available by the Ontario Ministry Health, the wait time for heart bypass surgery at the University of Ottawa's Heart Institute is eleven weeks.11 Suppose Williams had sought care in Ottawa? What if he ended up bumping someone on the waiting list that was in greater need of care? He would have been accused of obtaining preferential treatment by jumping the queue. Williams was damned if he did and damned if he didn't.

The same holds true for Sarah Palin. Remember when Barack Obama defended his association with Bill Ayers by stating he was only eight-years-old at the time Ayers engaged in domestic terrorism?12 Well, it's nice to know the liberal media holds Sarah Palin to a higher standard of conduct when she was five-years-old then when President Obama was eight."

Endnotes
1. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/sarah-palin-sees-eye-to-eye-with-albertans-in-calgary-speech/article1492634/

2. http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5imco-mAvOiSY_uN3u7iWTwodvvJA

3. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/08/palin-crossed-border-for_n_490080.html

4. http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0003658

5. http://www.canadiandoctorsformedicare.ca/e-rounds/e-rounds14.pdf

6. http://www.consular.canada.usembassy.gov/medical.asp

7. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/02/02/nl-williams-heart-010310.html

8. http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5h0QC7bditrEb3wYz_6_b-gsGGDxA

9. http://www.darkdaily.com/newfoundland-premier-danny-williams-heart-surgery-in-the-u-s-triggers-debate-on-healthcare-in-canada-224

10. http://www.uottawa.ca/services/markcom/gazette/000331/000331-art08-e.html

11. http://www.health.gov.on.ca/transformation/wait_times/public/wt_public_mn.html#

12. http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/04/17/fact_check_on_clinton_attacks.php

Tuesday, December 22, 2009

Gotcha Stupidity [Stephen Spruiell]

Politico's Glenn Thrush links to an article that brands Michele Bachmann (featured elsewhere on NRO today) a "welfare queen" because her family apparently owns a farm and receives farm subsidies.

Thrush calls this "selective socialism ." Neither Thrush nor the author of the article in question found it worth mentioning that Bachmann voted against the 2008 reauthorization of the farm bill, and then voted against it again when the House voted to override President Bush's veto.

You know who doesn't make a dime from farm subsidies, but supported the awful 2008 farm bill anyway for crass political reasons, flip-flopping after he originally called it a "multimillion-dollar giveaway" for "big agribusinesses"? Barack Obama."

Anytime it's YOUR dollar, you have a right to criticize - the govt ANYTIME you want and question NM

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!!

Yes, subsidized housing is not right..... - sm

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And I've never believed we should be subsidizing farmers either. The reasoning for that has long had no meaning and should have stopped!

It is not government's job to take one person's money to hand out to someone else. Simple as that.....

Every person should be held accountable for themselves. Charities and other programs in the community can take care of people.

Welfare among THOUSANDS of other social programs is fundamentally wrong.

You want something, you pay for it. You can't afford it, don't buy it. A free society isn't free as long as govt is taking their money is giving away to others (AS THEY PLEASE).

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