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Santorum attacked Protestants

Posted: Feb 18, 2012

In a 2008 speech (prior to hiding his true beliefs in order to run for president) he stated Protestants were no longer Christians. That should not sit well with the thumpers. JFK spinning in his grave.

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Obama has attacked - ALL Christians

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Wake up indeed. As if Obama has not hidden his true believes...RIIIGHT.

what country do YOU live in - obamagirl

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President Obama has made his beliefs quite clear. Christian. Very clear. I'm not Christian and have to say I'm more than ready for this country to kick religion out of the political discourse. Just because Christians scream louder doesn't mean they get to be our de facto religion. Fanatics like Santorum will have your head spinning. The only saving grace is he will never be elected to the office of President.

what country do YOU live in - used to be - a free one BEFORE OBAMA-Independent thinker

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What does that mean? How is this not a - free country now? NM

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was free - get real

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Were you conscious during the 8 years Bush screwed this country into oblivion? Were you conscious when he was having people fired for speaking out against his administration? Were you conscious when he and his cronies pocketed so much money they could support ALL of us for years and still not see a dent in it? Were you conscious when big oil and Bushy and his cronies decided to share one big bed? Were you conscious when Bushy decided regulation wasn't any fun? Get real.

was free get real - are YOU - conscious now

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never defended Bush. Try to stay on subject. Post regards current president, Obama, in case you are not aware of who currently holds office or the damage being done under Obama. Guess you would only be able to see the damage if Obama had an R behind his name? Try to stay on point.

This is a personal attack. Not allowed says - the board moderator. nm

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Try reading ALL posts before - flaming - quote from OP

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Nice try.

Just stop. Take some personal - responsibility. nm

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Just stop. Take some personal - responsibility - Good to follow own advice

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Nice try.

???? - just a peacemaker. nm

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Please see message. - sm

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Back in the day before Kennedy ran for the presidency, there was talk about if he won the presidency, America would be run by the Catholic Church, and NOBODY WANTED THAT.

Today, Santorum is the Catholic, and he's made it clear that he intends to bring Catholic doctrine into the White House with him.

With Kennedy, we had no reason to worry. I'm worried now. I'm not Catholic. My faith doesn't object to contraception. What about MY freedom of religion?

If this is specific to Catholics, then perhaps the Church should trust its parishoners to NOT take the contraception and to follow the rules.

Unfortunately, not many of them do.

I wonder what Santorum thinks about Mormons? - Serious Question nm

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he wouldnt mind being on the ticket - with Romney

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so he used the old "some say" routine to say Mormons are a cult.

JFK was Catholic. - Huh?

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Why would JFK be spinning in his grave? He was a Catholic, not a Protestant.

JFK had to reassure - fonzy

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people worrying that a catholic would allow the pope to guide his presidency. Santorum comes along and makes a statement divisive to catholics and protestants. What next Ricky dividing the Southern Baptists from the Baptists?

I agree with the poster above about religion being - removed from the equation. (sm)

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"Separation of Church and State" seems to have somehow been forgotten in recent years. It has NO PLACE WHATSOVER in politics or government.

It should be a PRIVATE matter, for those who practice it, and should be left at the doorstep the moment members of any congregation of any faith walk outside their respective homes or places of worship.

Faith should be a personal thing, and NOT a means of trying to control other people.

I completely agree. Since when do we have - religious leaders SM

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testifying to Congress about withholding health insurance on "moral objections?"

The religious leaders seem to have misunderstood - the U.S. Constitution - (sm)

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It guarantees "freedom of religion", but that doesn't mean it's open season on ramming one's own religion's ideas about morality down everyone else's throats. Because by doing so, they are then taking away the other peoples' religious freedom.

If I'm a Protestant, and I practice birth control, I don't want the Catholic-affiliated medical institution that employs me telling me I can't have it covered by my health insurance.

And what about women who must practice birth control not because they don't want children, but because it would be dangerous for them to have them?

You always hear people complaining about government getting too big and getting into everyone's personal lives. And yet frequently, many of the same people complaining about intrusive government, practice INTRUSIVE RELIGION.

If something isn't done about that problem in our country - and SOON - all the progress women have made in the last 100 years is going to go right back to Square One.

Do not pass Go. Do not collect $100.

more fearmongering thanks to the liberals - nm

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This has got to be a hit and run post trying to - bait people. NM

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The serious discussion disappears - sm

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The right-wingers say they want serious discussion (unless you disagree), When the right-winger has no valid argument, it becomes drive-by. Very predictable.

Evidently you do not - read the Liberal posts

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Nothing but spin, drive-by and usually name calling as soon as someone disagrees, and what passes for very little humor (and I mean very little). Go up or down the thread...it's all there.

more cowbell! - nm

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Religious Leaders under - Constitution better than anyone

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Religous leaders have a far greater understanding about religious freedom AND "THE PRACTICE THEREOF". No one ever advised anyone to stop getting birth control. According to their doctrine, they do not want THE GOVT. FORCING them to provide/pay for something in direct conflict with their faith and the pracice thereof. Pretty sad that education has been so dumbed down that most of the public have no idea what the Constitution says, nor do they understand it. By Obama's own speach 98% OF WOMEN ARE USING BIRTH CONTROL NOW....OBVIOUSLY ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH ACCESS. BTW, there is always the beloved PP that will provide whatever you want. No one stops any woman from going to PP to get everything from birth control to abortions, regardless of the reason. People will not understand what these religious leaders are saying until there is a "mandate" by the govt. that hits you where you believe. If you want birth control, NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU FROM GETTING IT OR INFRINGING ON YOU RIGHTS. Way off on the intrusive religion comment (unless you practice sharia law).

Pet peeve - off subject

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People WHO capitalize random WORDS throughOUT their posts. You are "all for" the Constitution. Are you a Sanctorum voter?

Pet Peeve - NO - but I AM

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all FOR THE CONSTITUTION, although CLEAR others on ths board ARE NOT and do not even KNOW WHAT IT SAYS.

I KNOW you are - BUT what AM I?

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You are curiously SILENT on the Rick Sanctorum issue.

I KNOW you are - BUT what AM I? - Wow - the best of what this board has to offer-NOT

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Probably because I am a democrat and cannot vote in primaries for republicans. Guess you never got to that chapter in your CIVICS book.

I know what the 14th Amendment says regarding - citizenship. sm

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"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

There is no mention of embryos or fetuses.

Other than that, what choices women make in family planning is theirs and theirs alone since it is personal and is NOBODY'S business.

I posted something similar as you did. - sm

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Didn't mean to step on your toes. I guess I need to look at the whole thread before commenting. I completely agree with your post.

Yes, wake up wake up wake up - sm

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Point #1: First off, if he really said that, that has got to be about the most stupid thing I've ever heard. Is he even a religious man? I can't even begin to tell you how stupid that statement is without getting banned.

Point #2: I think anyone running for president should keep their religious believes to themselves. If they are openly discussing their religious beliefs that means they are going to let that interfere with what is right. I'm not thrilled (in fact dread) if Romney gets in because of his religion and their purpose in life. How is that going to affect how he runs the country.

Point #3 - Your statement "prior to hiding his true believes in order to run for president". You can say that about every candidate. Even Obama. Candidates lie to get elected. Everyone knows that is a fact. I have not met a politician yet who has not lied to get elected.

link for comment by santorum - ona platter

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http://video.msnbc.msn.com/up-with-chris-hayes/46438704/#null

Great to hide thei faith - unless they believe in sharia law

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Everyone should know what the president stands for. Does not mean his faith will interfere. Not sure I want to find out after the election we all need fitted for burkas.

Just curious. What do you mean by Romney's - Mormon religion SM

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and their purpose in life?

Republican divisive tactics are backfiring on them - RepublicanBigGovernment

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In Minnesota, the Republicans are trying to get a State Constitutional Amendment passed to ban gay marriage. A large branch of a Minneapolis Lutheran church has voted to oppose the proposed ban. Pubs are backing themselves into corners on so many issues, they will never find a way out.

Contrarty to the anarchy - Dems seem to LUUUV

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On the "CBS Evening Muse" tonight, someone was - saying that if Romney loses the /sm/

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Michigan primary, they may start scrambling all over the place to try to find yet another possible Republican candidate. Jeb Bush was even mentioned.

LOL - well, if nothing else, at least they're amusing to watch.

Didn't Sarah Palin recently come out and say - she might run? NM

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cue the banjos - wouldnt

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that be great fun! Todd, Torp, Turn, Tarn, Tron, Tuber and Bristle back in the Big City and the spotlight!

ROFL! Thanks for the laugh! - nm

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