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Remembering JOURNOLIST and progressive media


Posted: Jul 16, 2017

A couple weeks ago I came across an old article about Journolist which I found striking. In particular, I was struck by the ways in which some of the debates taking place among left-leaning journalists back in 2008 still seem to encompass the ways the left-wing media operates today.... For those who don’t remember it, Journolist was just a listserv created by Ezra Klein. The list was invitation only and was mostly made up of progressive journalists. In theory, the list was a kind of digital water cooler where like-minded people could talk to others in the field. That may have been all it was much of the time, but when candidate Obama got in trouble in 2008, it also became a place for partisans to discuss a coordinated media strategy...;

..."members of the list should be conservatives on - defensive by calling them racist"

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Boy is that true. It doesn't work anymore, so they've moved on to other words...white supremacist, fascist, etc...

Every evening the national news shows appear to have precisely the same script. I can channel-hop and never miss a beat.

This upsets you, but inviting the Russians to corrupt our election - is fine?

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Are you upset that corporations support ALEC to feed your Republican legislators policy to enact? Are you upset that the most money can buy a supreme court ruling like citizen's united.

How about the talking points that are posted here everyday? Who tells you to post them or is it some automatic software thing?

Who invited the Russians to corrupt our election? - When you says "the Russians"

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that is a broad term. Some of them are hackers, not govt.

JournOlist is what lead the charge against Palin in 2008. - They flooded the airwaves, print and

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Internet with a never ending flood of attack stories, gossip and rumor mongering.

These are a few quotes from Mark Twain regarding the media - which was essentially just newspapers back then.. Interesting..

“It has become a sarcastic proverb that a thing must be true if you saw it in a newspaper. That is the opinion intelligent people have of that lying vehicle in a nutshell. But the trouble is that the stupid people — who constitute the grand overwhelming majority of this and all other nations — do believe and are moulded and convinced by what they get out of a newspaper, and there is where the harm lies.”

“Among us, the newspaper is a tremendous power. It can make or mar any man’s reputation. It has perfect freedom to call the best man in the land a fraud and a thief, and he is destroyed beyond help.”

“There are laws to protect the freedom of the press’s speech, but none that are worth anything to protect the people from the press.”

“I have a sort of vague general idea that there is too much liberty of the press in this country, and that through the absence of all wholesome restraint the newspaper has become in a large degree a national curse, and will probably damn the Republic yet.”

It's especially noticeable when they all use the same - buzzword. Gravitas was the word

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back when Bush was pres.

Rush used to get what were called seminar callers on his show. They actually had seminars to teach people how to call his show and try to make him look not mainstream. He could spot them immediately.

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