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Leaked audio from Republican meeting

Posted: Jan 28, 2017

shows they have NO plan to replace the ACA.

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Do you have a link? - nm

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There are quite a few references - Resist

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on Google but here is one.

I saw nothing in that piece that stated they have no plan - Truthhurts

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I saw a few paragraphs where they stated that they have to be careful that they don't wind up becoming a disaster like Obamacare; IOW, their plans/ideas. They are deciding the best way to go about fixing the healthcare system to benefit the people. they have many bills that they are moldig to fit into one. It's called compromising, something the Democrats know nothing about.

First of all, you can't "fix" anyting the govt runs. Repeal it and open it - up across state line for

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competition.

This sounds like the media grasping at straws. Talking about something and figuring out how to fix it. It’s called "decision making."

We talk about buying a house. The selection, financing, remodeling and moving are the hard decisions and take effort, time and agreement.

What a bunch of bull. "Journalists" only know one skill - how to talk about something. They don’t build or improve anything and boo hoo? The fake news media can scream about this all they want....it is UNREMARKABLE that legislators talk about the effect of their actions.

I don't think you understand about - state lines

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Insurance companies in some states sell worthless policies that are cheap. If you're able to buy across state lines, you can find one at a low cost, but it will not help you when you need it. States that have standards have them for good reasons.

We can do the research! - Consumer

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You just admitted that states have standards.

Most Americans are capable of researching those state standards and other parameters to assist in their decision-making.

There are several RINOs like McCain and Graham who - really should have a D after their names.

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The GOP has an internal security issue and needs to find the leaker. Wouldn’t be surprised if it is one of the old guard or their staff that was in the room. This leak is intended to slowdown or stop the repeal effort. The old guard hates Trump.

Repeal the Medicaid expansion that Obamacare funded. That would cut costs right away, and about half the states refused to participate anyway.

Granted, and I suspect that we as voters are going to have to - drag them to the water and make

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them drink. They should see by now that their position in Congress isn’t because of their own merit. Donald Trump GAVE them that. They don’t have to like it, but they better comply or get out.

I suspect they are on a bit of a tightrope. If Obamacare is falling apart as fast the numbers say it is, they won’t be able to diddle dally around for too long asking for public input.

Let's get down to the issues: 1) Healthcare has to be rationed. We - cannot provide 100% healthcare for

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everyone. No politician can say this out loud.

Issue 2: Who decides healthcare issues? You and me, the insurance company, our government?

Issue 3: Who pays for it?

If I buy something for me with my money, I am concerned about price and quality. If I buy something for me with YOUR money, I am concerned about quality, NOT price.

If I buy something for you with MY money, I am concerned about price, not quality.

If I buy something for you with your money, I don’t care about price or quality.

All Republicans here, please contact your representatives and help them find a pair of gonads.

Rush Limbaugh has been excoriating the Republican - congressional "leadership" for many

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years and I agree. I suspect some of them are stalling because, as usual, they don't want to be lambasted by the MSM. Many of them are establishment types who still don't get why Trump was elected.

Has the GOP failed to notice what has happened to the Democrat party lately?

Big deal. Gruber leaks called people who fell for O'care stupid, - no one seemed to care about that.

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The RINOs in Congress need a talking to by Trump.

MAGA!

How would YOU fix health care? I would remove the mindset that - healthcare should be free.

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Someone is paying for it. Until we remove the brainwashing that we’re subjected to every day, that you’re not healthy unless you’re going to the doctor, the problem will get bigger and bigger. And of course, we all know about the incessant commercials on TV advertising disgusting diseases and symptoms. I believe these should be banished from the face of the earth, just like they banished cigarette advertising. It’s revolting, disgusting, and definitely not healthy (another form of brainwashing by the medical complex in this country).

There are large swaths of people who will not or can not pay for their own health care. Let’s start by listing these people because until we consider all the relevant segments of society that use large amounts of medical care or cannot afford it or choose not to pay for it, we cannot come up with solutions. The point of this post is not to judge, just find viable ways of dealing with the problem, because politicians pander.

Here’s a start:

1. People who have serious health conditions that, unless they’re millionaires or dependents of millionaires, cannot pay the exorbitant prices charged by the medical complex for their serious debilitating conditions.

2. People who work but do not make enough money to pay the exorbitant prices charged by the medical complex.

3. People like hypochondriacs, who use inordinate amounts of medical services, and, if given free access to all medical services available, would spend their entire lives doing nothing but going doctor to doctor.

4. People who want others to pay for medical procedures that rational people believe are not necessary for a healthy life, like sex change operations, etc. They believe the medical procedures are necessary but “normal” people do not.

I believe the best way to solve what we’re brainwashed to believe is America’s health care crisis is to let the free market take care of it. But here in America we can’t have people dying in the gutter. It offends our sensibilities. So we need to figure out what we’re going to do about the people listed above.

We all tend to sit back and believe the politicians are going to fix it, but if you were one of those politicians, what would you do?

Tort reform. I hate all those adds on TV with lawyers - suing manufacturers for all kinds of

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things I've been typing for 25 years. Cut the cost of doing business for doctors and you cut the cost of health care.

Interstate health insurance. Gut regulations (which cost billions).

Bring back competition. All prices must be made visible.

Anyone who colludes or fixes prices goes to jail.

Those who can’t pay go to the charity hospitals. Competition, competitive plans and free trade.

In my opinion, a large part of this problem stems from the huge - amounts of money involved, so

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follow the money. Nurse's union, doctors, drug companies, AARP...

Another question is, how to get the free market system in healthcare back?

Human nature. - FACT

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Excellent post there.

It is worth pointing out that when something is provided for "FREE" (to the end-user), it is taken advantage of. Not just hypochondriacs run to the doctor for every hangnail. Anytime someone else is paying the bill, people run to the doctor for every little thing. That is HUMAN NATURE, and studies have also borne this out.

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