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Holder aims vulgarity at critics in email

Posted: Nov 8, 2014

WASHINGTON (AP) — Newly released emails show Attorney General Eric Holder said that Justice Department prosecutors who were critical of the department's handling of the fallout of the Fast and Furious gun-walking scandal could "kiss my ass."

Link: http://news.yahoo.com/holder-aims-vulgarity-critics-email-235206591--politics.html

Wow ... such professionalism. Some of us are way above this "ghetto" behavior.

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"Ghetto" = "vulgar"? - hmmmm

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If you've spent any time in the ghetto, as I have, - you understand the reference.

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But what am I saying? Most Democrats won't go within a stone's throw of a ghetto unless it's election time...

Ghetto is not vulgar - It's a part of any city

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a ghetto specifically refers to an area occupied by minorities - and no, not "any" city has one

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It's not vulgar, per se, but does refer to areas populated by ethnic or minority groups. I'm not quite sure how relevant that characterization is to Eric Holder. Except that he's black, of course.

Yes any city - sm

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If you do a research you will find that there are ghettos in many cities. You have jewish ghettos, Irish ghettos, and American ghettos:

"Urban areas in the U.S. can often be classified as "black" or "white", with the inhabitants primarily belonging to a homogenous racial grouping."

Ghetto attitude is equal to calling white people trailor trash.

Okay, then. Trailer trash it is. - Better?

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I would consider that a biased remark, as well. - poster you responded to (sm)

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Am I to understand that you recognize the generalization inherent in "ghetto?"

Once a thug, always a thug. - nm

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You can't put lipstick on a pig.

Actually, I think it IS possible to put lipstick on a - pig, considering that is

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whom you're quoting. Honestly - some things need to be thought through a little further before they're said.

Funny. I just came to post that very thing. I just (sm) - Abby

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read it in my local newspaper. They are just so classy, it's unbelievable, really. Ghetto thug is actually a better description. They really are low life.

Who is "they?" ("Sweeping the Leg" Update: Read Before It's Gone;) - Kentuckian

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I thought this was about just Eric Holder's behavior appearing to you like a "ghetto thug" - so who is "they" in your "low life" sentence?

(At least at the time my comment was written, you'd written "they")

I wonder - if he was white, would you have used the term "ghetto"?

Wow, the Republican poster the other day regarding Republican racism being a false accusation was right - because race clearly plays no part in the Republican opinions presented on this forum, at least, no siree ;)

ADDENDUM (11/09/2014):
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(*** See the attached link I just added this evening at the very bottom of this post and why it was added.)
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As you may recall, one of my first posts talked about politicians "sweeping the leg", like in the movie Karate Kid and how though we all booed that guy, we are now cheering that on in politics when it happens today?

Well, unfortunately, apparently we have some "leg sweepers" in this very room, cheering each other on over "leg-sweeping" under-forum tactics, despite the fact they know how devoid of character this is to do. In fact, this has happened to me, overnight, and I had heard this same thing happening from 8 other people before I got here.

(Who, btw, had no idea I posted this weekend, so those votes I'm getting really are from total strangers who I still have not spoken to under forum)

It started yesterday, when despite the number of positive votes I had received, I received an email from the moderator yesterday that a comment was removed, after someone reported it as being "nonpolitical."

Strange, because though a joke, it clearly WAS political - it even included the OP's own word choice of "undocumented aliens."

But, I said nothing in return, just accepted it and realized what was going on here and that perhaps the rumors were true - that a clique of extreme far right wing women in a clique of 3 or 4 people (at most 6) will report you to the moderator over bogus, minor stuff to bully you away or pick at you until you blow and get banned.

(For the record, btw, to this day, I still have never reported anyone's comments to the moderator because I believe in Freedom of Speech as long as it is not hate speech. If I don't like something, I offer my voice in dissent or debate, not try to have it removed or shut someone up).

However, someone then oddly commented to me under this very thread almost immediately afterwards (now removed along with my other comments under this thread), suddenly and out of nowhere, desperately declaring their innocence with me.

The timing was bizarre, but if nothing else. It also seemed a bit desperate to try to seem innocent and seemed obvious that something was up.

So I realized then that the rumors were true and this was clearly the old "mean girl" trick of acting innocent publicly, bullying privately.

Why? Because you simply disagree with the OP/their clique buddies, under a clearly derogatory post they already knew might be considered provocative, offensive or inflammatory when they wrote it - but more importantly, they had no factually-based rebuttle (or even sensible) rebuttle to what you said and they knew it.

Initially, I didn't blame the moderator, I felt sorry for her for having to comply over all their BS nitpicker complaints.

But unfortunately, I did lose my cool about it towards them in a comment, last night, addressed to that bizarre "innocent" commenter and her buddies regarding her prior nitpicking of me under my previous comments (mostly also now removed).

Then, of course, I received a message from the moderator that my PO-ed comment had been removed and I had been banned temporarily for an attack.

**So I told the moderator I agreed with her, I had lost my temper and would step away a bit.

That was the last I heard, said not another word to her or anyone, and went to bed; but this is where it gets interesting...

*** So imagine my surprise this morning, when I suddenly received a 2nd bizarre accusatory email, apparently overnight from the moderator, at about 12:22 am, oddly using the same comment she'd already removed and temp banned me for, now stating that she was going to recommend action to administration and that:

"Personal vendettas don't belong on this forum."

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Excuse me? "Personal vendetta?"

LOL, with whom? How paranoid - get a grip, moderator. I don't even know these people (and don't think I want to now)!

They're just commenters on a sad little political forum that obviously consider this pathetic little place their "turf" to the point that it's become a joke to most how seriously they take it and what lengths they go to cover each other's truly crappy stuff over it.

I just got frustrated with their nitpicking my comments and trying to bully me away, using the moderator to do it - so I lost my cool and ADMITTED I did, but thought it had been resolved. So what's with the bizarre, almost paranoid-sounding email 3 hours later?

However, this experience does prove the rumors we've all heard about this place are true, as well as explain my previous attempt at commenting over a year ago that I was completely confused about and just left.

Still, I didn't believe the rumors about the moderator herself until now.

Regardless, I doubt you had the foresight to realize this, ladies, while running your little game - did you not realize how you could pull this trick on one too many people before word got around?

Worse, do you realize how many riding-the-fence voters you have turned away from your political party because of this little game you've played on dozens of people now?

Did you not realize that your behavior has been the best negative-ad campaign against your own political party?

Additionally, note that even though I still won't report others' comments to the moderator and though I initially agreed with the moderator, the moderator herself has now been reported for inappropriate and unprofessional commentary with that last email.

So I HAVE been temporarily banned (probably permanently after this) but I just discovered you can still edit, so here I am - read it while you can before it goes too ;)

*** Just one more thing***

For those women who are finding their comments removed for bogus reasons, might I recommend bypassing the moderator altogether and contacting administration on the main page, requesting that there be a cap number of complaints given per month by a single commenter towards other commenters, and if they violate that, they should be banned themselves for trying to intimidate others off the forum abusing this feature.

On that note, ladies responsible, for all your whining above forum that other people are "restricting YOUR freedom of speech" and forcing "PC rules" on you, please note that NO ONE has reported YOUR comments and had them removed. In fact, they haven't even so much as asked you to stop. They simply posted dissenting opinion, asked you a question, or told you they found it offensive, and they have every right to do so - but it seems you are most upset when you are presented with fact on a valid point and left without rebuttle.

So tell the readers here, then, how can you justify calling other people Communists, when it's actually YOU restricting other people's freedom of speech by having their comments removed for ridiculous reasons?

PS REPLY #1 TO COMMENTER BELOW
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To the commenter who just now replied below, the thing is, I am liberal about some things, but conservative about others - seriously -I guess it's just not the things they wanted me to be conservative on.

Regardless, NO ONE should be bullied to choose sides or called names or a "communist" because they reacted to a derogatory post or disagreed with anyone else, said they found something offensive, or asked a question - and they definitely should not have their comments removed over bogus, irrelevant reasons.

But I guess the extreme right wingers on THIS forum wanted me to agree with them entirely (or else), like fascists AND/OR communists.

Ya know, it's funny, isn't it - the more extreme the right and left are, the more like each other they actually are - more like a political circle than a linear spectrum, isn't it?

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To the commenter below who just now asked about how I could be banned and still write the above addendum - I'm pretty sure you know the answer to that, because it's in the second half of the exact same sentence you just asked about ;)

But just in case, here's an exact copy/paste of that sentence above, and though I have corrected typos or taken out redundant points, this particular sentence has not been changed one iota:

"So I HAVE been temporarily banned (probably permanently now) but I just discovered you can still edit, so here I am - read it while you can before it goes too ;)"

So either you didn't read the 2nd half of that sentence, which would be weird (but explains much) or you're just trying to draw the moderator's attention to this comment yourself, which is fine, I knew y'all would - thus my comment title change.

(However, if you were smart, you'd leave this comment alone and act like you have no idea what I'm talking about, but...no:)

So may I just say once again, thank you, supposed "anti-communists" in the room, for your obvious strict adherence to our right (and your allowance) of freedom of speech with dissenting opinion ;)

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How do I know someone else reported me?

Again, because of the last email I received from the moderator, though the situation had been resolved - she said "personal vendetta."

That implies another person, dear - only I don't know who it is, for the life of me. I don't know anyone here (or at least no one has made it clear they are one of the 8 I mentioned that told me the rumor)

You're telling me the moderator had just suddenly "changed her mind" hours later about the same comment she'd already removed and declared it "personal vendetta" out of nowhere?

And did you realize you contradicted yourself completely (at least at the time I wrote this reply, if not been edited since ;)

Because first you said that I don't know for certain anyone is reporting me, but then you wax on yourself for several paragraphs about how YOU know, as if for a fact, that it's the liberals doing most of the reporting - that makes no sense lol - because if I don't know then you don't know either, dear lol

And the funniest thing is that you admit yourself reporting DOES go on! LOL

Oh please, lol, I never called anyone any of the names you said - name one time I ever called anyone a name here or insulted anyone until last night/now.

And those names still are at most "queen bee/Hilly" and the "Jackson Bridge Club", redefining the word "thug" you all already used, and "anticommunist".

I simply made a sarcastic joke - a joke that was liked by 15 people and disliked by only 3 - and defended myself with sarcasm after being picked at over typos and semantics. Votes don't lie, dear - and I'm quite sure none of the 15 "likes" reported me;)

Speaking of which, I just read someone's review of this site elsewhere, complaining of the very same thing I'm saying now.

Since I didn't write that review from months ago and it wasn't any of the people I already mentioned that told me this rumor, that makes at least 20 people, including total strangers' votes, that know I'm not being paranoid.

So you can take your "paranoid" and leave it where it belongs, with the extreme right-wingers, calling people that disagree with them "commmunists."

I'm really surprised someone hasn't reported this to the BBB by now. However, it won't be me - I'm just saying my piece only on here, where it belongs - because somebody needed to.

Lastly and again, if y'all were smart, you'd NOT report this or draw further attention to it, and you'd stop reporting people over nonsense - that'd be the best way to convince people I'm just being paranoid ;)

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As mentioned above, I've just added this link below about who actually owns this website. Whether true or not, one thing that is true is that this site is financed through business owners and others who pay them for ads. (So in the future, perhaps if you want the right to say whatever you want, perhaps pay them for an ad LOL).

If the information in link below is true, at least this answers someone's question to me about why the last 3 moderators at this site all had the American name of "Violet," as well as another question of why they only moderated the comments at night (which would be daytime overseas, wouldn't it ;)

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***** PS #4 to commenters today, 11/10/2014*******

First let me say how much I appreciate the kind words and support that have arrived since, underneath this comment, thank you so much :)

Yes, the most recent commenter is correct about one thing - I did admit to losing my temper later in this thread, and I agreed with and accepted the temporary ban on new posts because of it, which is why the second email 3 hours later was so odd.

However, the commenter is incorrect by saying that was my "original comment."

No, THIS is my original comment, untouched, up until "ADDENDUM", and there were 2 more in this thread BEFORE the one where I lost my temper after being nitpicked to death, above and below forum.

Those comments stayed on point regarding the definition of the term "ghetto" and "thugs" - but they were inexplicably removed too.

The commenter is also incorrect in that I aimed my temper at the people "because they were conservative."

No - I aimed my temper at a small clique of HUMAN BEINGS IN THE ROOM WHO ARE GIVING CONSERVATIVES A BAD NAME.

Additionally, although I agreed it was a personal attack, the worst I called the little clique was Queen Bee/Ms. Hilly and the Jackson Bridge Club, speaking of "thugs" - but nice try at trying to convince others it was far worse ;)

*** By the way, my best friend is a conservative Republican - didn't know that, didja?

She's a true, blue old-school Republican, highly intelligent. Conservative, but not extreme or an angry, name-caller. In fact, I was on the phone with her that night I wrote the undocumented alien joke, which was the actual first removal, and I read her the entire thread before it was removed.

Guess what she did?

She laughed - because she's cool that way.:)

Do you know what she said when she discovered it had been removed?

"Oh my goodness, I'm so embarrassed these people call themselves Republicans too. If I were on there, I wouldn't cover for bad behavior just because someone is in the same party as me, we've way to much of that already in politics on both sides - THAT'S what people need to wake up to and what politicians in both parties take advantage of, blind faith."

"I'd have the courage to stand up and say this directly to them, as a fellow party member: 'YOU are an embarrassment to my party...'

"Of course they'd probably accuse me of lying about being a Republican and a Liberal in disguise or some nonsense because I did so..."

"(Kentuckian), your joke WAS political despite that being the supposed reason for it's removal, it was hilarious and unfortunately true. Now you know I think we do need to do something about immigration because there does need to be some documentation they are even here, it's really not fair we cover them with public aid. Besides, people are getting hurt trying to get here, then exploited pay when they arrive, and I do feel we do need a limit on number of arrivals because it's too much for us economically when we're already broken..."

"...but I'm so sorry they're acting like this and giving my party a bad name with their behavior, above or below forum. Please don't let them taint your opinion of conservatives, they don't speak for the majority of conservatives....."

"...and if a single one of my supposed fellow conservatives on that forum truly had the heart of Christ, character and values, they'd let those things be their guide for character - NOT politicians or their buddies on a political forum."

"Because bad behavior is just bad behavior regardless of whether they wear my same party hat."

Hahaha - Amen, my sistah. There's one conservative who has my vote :)

See, that's the thing about us Southern women, there aren't 2 parties so much as there 2 kinds of women in both parties.

You have kind that smile in your face and call you "sweetie" (but pour something in your coffee when they think no one's watching)...

...and the kind of Southern women that are compassionate people (conservative, liberal and in between), who will mind our southern manners until we're pushed, at which point, the gloves come off and no more games - we cut through the BS and will sass back at you exactly what we think of you AND your little games, chew you up and spit you right out, in front of God and everybody - that's where my conservative friend and I are alike. (Think Julia Sugerbaker and Elizabeth Dole ;)

11/10/2014 - 10:36 p.m.
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I posted 2 comments above (actually 3, one had a PS) from a different IP location and email address just to see what would happen and what reason would be given if I was removed.

One comment was removed, the other wasn't.

The reason cited was that I was "banned" and that I had been "warned several times" and that if I posted from another location, further action would be taken.

After double-checking my email, I discovered what I already knew - this was a lie. I did find out that the third bizarre email in question above had actually removed a third comment, which an older comment and time-stamped prior to the first, also telling me I was banned.

I wrote this final response ...

"That's funny because I just double-checked."

"You removed one comment for being nonpolitical."

"You removed a second for personal attack and banned me immediately, so there WAS no warning."

"Though I complied and did not post further (and was actually asleep), you inexplicably sent a third email, 3 hours later, about banning me again, citing an old comment time-stamped prior to the one you just sent?"

There was no "warning"

Its obvious - "They" would be people in politics - Mrs. Tingles - sm

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It's obvious who the "they" are that she is talking about since she is referenceing the people in the politics and news.

Ghetto behaviour - yeah, black, white, Indian, Chinese, the term fits everyone who acts like that.

Don't even try and turn this into racist. Crying racism is a communist tactic to try and get the focus off of what is being talking about.

She is talking about politics, politicians, etc and not people here on the board.

And crying Communist is what kind of tactic? - fair question

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It's no tactic. Just a statement of fact - nm

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sorry, it's not a fact - sm

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Questioning racism is NOT a communist tactic. Declaring that "crying racism is a communist tactic" is a tactic, in and of itself. THAT, dear, is the only fact present in this discussion.

I asked a fair question. Sadly, no substantive answer has been given.

Just to set the record straight - see message

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The reason you have more likes than dislikes is because there are more liberals on this board than conservatives.

I don't necessarily agree... - l2

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...that there are more liberals than conservatives on this board. I think there are a handful of extreme right wingers with radical opinions who tend to turn off those of us who are more moderate, hence the dislikes. JMO

You are correct. Dislike or like does not mean someone is right or wrong - Just more liberals than conservatives - also

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you have to take in account how many people are reading your message.

A few likes against 134 posters who have read the messages means that the likes or dislikes don't mean anything, just more of the group that favors you. What about the other 124 people that didn't feel like clicking on like or dislike. Maybe all those 134 people disliked it but didn't feel like pushing a button like the little kids like to do in the elevator. I rarely will hit like or dislike because it is not a fair assessment.

I find that hard to believe. Especially since - only Republicans are allowed

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to post snarky comments. Any Dem who does it gets banned. That would be my guess as to why there are so few Dems left on this board.

No, she has more "likes" because her posts are - thought-provoking, not mud-slinging.

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She writes intelligently, researches what she writes somewhere other than a checkout stand tabloid or a right-wing slander-site. Her comments are sensible, not knee-jerk blaming, finger-pointing and name-calling. So that's most likely the reason she gets more likes than dislikes. Plus she can actually come up with her own comments, rather than simply parroting or snarkily agreeing with the right wing board-bullies.

You must not have seen her original post. - sm

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In my opinion, she was banned because of the personal attacks on several conservative posters. She even admitted that her temper got the best of her, in so many words. That's not what this board is about. We're supposed to be able to discuss things and debate. The moderator wrote last week that we could attach names to public figures, but not to those on the board. It appears she may have broken that rule.

I think it's because Republicans are scared of - smart people.

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Question: How can you be banned if you posted this message? - Truthhurts

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. no msg

How do you know who or if anyone is reporting you - Annie

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First, you are not supposed to know who reports you or even if you are reported. Do you have some connections we don't know about?

There is no race here. She is talking about the personality traits - thug is a good description. You are trying to make this racial when it is not.

There are no "mean girls". Have you ever thought that the moderator reads the board and removes the posts that are insulting. Many of your posts are going after specific posters wagging your finger at them with scolding comments. I myself am shocked to see how much stays up with the way posters are addressed, wagging the finger at them all because of disagreement. All people want here is to be able to talk about politics instead of posters posting their opinions of them and wagging fingers at them.

Freedom of speech is great, but not when insults are thrown in throughout the post. Maybe if someone has their own blog or website and want to insult another group there then nobody can stop you (though can't imagine you get many followers cos people do get sick of hate spew), but when posters bring that same attitude to this board that's not why I come here. Most people don't want to hear people be called ignorant, stupid, or call the group they hate "jack---es" or have some statement insult people who are Christians. People can't stop others from posting personal blogs or wherever else they want to on the internet, but it's not what we want to read here, and if the moderator goes through and removes those posts then the board is better for it.

People can imagine whatever they want about the moderator. Sure it's easy to say moderator removed a post so she's a conservative. Funny, I don't see conservatives crying the same when their posts are removed. That says a lot about the differences between liberals and conservatives. Conservatives get their posts removed and they don't say anything. Liberals get their posts removed and they are all over the board crying about it.

There is nothing odd, bizarre, or any of the other statements made. The moderator cleans up the board and removes insults directed at a group of people. She stated in her post that she would be removing insults of other posters, but people are free to say what they want about politicians, just don't insult people here.

It is my guess, but by the looks of the board it is the liberals who are doing the reporting. Of course I don't know, just like nobody on this board knows, unless of course someone would like to explain how they know their posts are being reported and by whom (which has been accused of in the post I am replying to). I'm sure we'd all like to know how to do it.

And those are just my opinions.

You get emails from the moderator. And - you have to read between the lines.

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Please don't go Kentuckian. I love your posts. - You're fresh air in here.

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Come back after you're banned, please?

I second that! So tired of all the baseless - right-wing verbal farts. -Lotus

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The whole Obama administration. Who do you think? - Abby

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Or are you just trying to start something?

Above it - Critical Thinker

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Can you be way above that behavior while describing it as "ghetto"? Seems to me that by doing so, you've stooped to at least the same level, and sprinkled in some racist overtones for flavoring as well.

In current usage, the term "ghetto behavior" - ProMT

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can also be a used as a description of a person's behavior ... usually loud, low class, uncouth, uneducated, with poor language skills, and unnecessarily combative and belligerent.

Again, in my opinion, anyone in a position such as Eric Holder who uses unprofessional language in an email, which leaves a "trail," is certainly not a politically correct decision and is low class.

I hope I have cleared this up, and if not, so be it.

Actually ... I never use the term - ProMT

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"low class." It is any oxymoron. Either you have it or you don't, and there is not much class remaining anywhere these days as compared to the past.

That's true. Should be no class. Apologies. :)) - Abby

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nm

Sad you cannot see the ugliness of this term. - sm

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There are and have been "ghettos" everywhere, in most every country, since antiquity. They are where the poor and disenfranchised live, good people and bad, like anywhere else. They are people who struggle every day to feed their children. To use that kind of a label to brand all people in the ghetto is abhorrent to me.

Did you find Elvis's usage abhorrent? - nm

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nm

Elvis' song did more for the social consciousness - sm

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and understanding of the desperation of those growing up in poverty than studying volumes of socioeconomics text books.

Judging from the use of the word ghetto in the above posts, it is another form of hate for the poor and minorities. It is obvious many are offended here.

After seeing the latest in Ferguson, it seems to be me that "In the Ghetto" is still amazingly relevant, which is a very sad considering the song was released in 1969.

I agree with your first sentence. - Debi

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However, I also agree with ProMT. I think ghetto is one of the terms that has changed over time and is now more associated with behavior and persona than an actual place.

Tolerance of incivility and vulgar word choice - sm

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perpetuate the downward spiral that American society is taking. If you think it is good to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, wear a flag pin, and profess patriotism, you should also consider your words.

Rules for Conservatives (by liberals) - msg - Abby

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I certainly hope you don't consider thug when speaking about this entire administration racist, because I intend to keep using it. It is totally accurate.

Oh I do find it offensive and low class. - sm

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And it does nothing to raise my opinion of you and the party you represent by your use of such demeaning language. I hope that does not bother you.

Not a bit sweetie. - Abs

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nm

Definition of victimology - ProMT

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Victimology: The possession of an outlook, arising from real or imagined victimization, that seems to glorify and indulge the state of being a victim.

I have always believed that you will possess the mentality of being a victim only if you choose to. One cannot go through life without being a victim of someone or something. Since the release of the song, "In the Ghetto," almost 50 years have passed, and really nothing has changed in ghetto areas; in fact, it has become worse. As far as African Americans and other races, there are more opportunities for them today than ever before. People are responsible for themselves, and if you are strong and are able to rise above your circumstances without blaming others, you will become a better person and you will make it. No one ever said that life was going to be easy, and we all have our burdens to carry, but believing that you cannot achieve a better life without hard work will only keep you from attaining your goals.

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/20/new-oklahoma-abortion-law-violates-patient-privacy-critics-charge/ The floor is open for discussion/debate. ...

Jul 01, 2013
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/30/critics-say-supreme-courts-proposition-8-ruling-ta/ ...

May 29, 2015
And the Tea Party wonders why public perception is that they are hostile, paranoid and have no loyalty to anyone but themselves. Apparently, not even to themselves, the ad took a shot at Ted Cruz as being a Patriot Act spy supporter , too? lol On second thought, now there's a wrestling match I'd like to see - Cruz vs. Paul. However, methinks it would end as it would with most big-mouthed brawlers - both would end up crying and running to their daddies;) http://www.washin ...

Jan 22, 2010
By Ron BrynaertThursday, January 21st, 2010 -- 12:17 pm Republicans say 'freedom won,' liberal jokes real winner is Satan Update: Obama vows 'forceful response' The US Supreme Court on Thursday lifted a 20-year ruling which had set limits on campaign financing by US businesses, and critics, including nonpartisan watchdogs and Congressional Democrats, are up in arms about the decision, which most had feared for a long time. Meanwhile, aside from Senator John McCain (R-AZ), ...

Apr 05, 2011
So, what do you think about Holder now deciding to have the trials for KSM and others at Gitmo? ...

May 04, 2012
Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), chairman of the House Oversight Committee, is preparing contempt of Congress charges against Attorney General Eric Holder for his failure to cooperate fully with the investigation into Operation Fast and Furious, the Obama Administration’s deadly gun-running program. Warnings were issued, deadlines have passed, and it’s just about “go time.” To this end, Issa has prepared an extensive staff briefing on the case, along ...

Apr 10, 2012
So, why is Holder so quiet? Is it another case that, as he said in the New Black Panther voter intimidation case, "demeans my people?" Come on, Mr. Holder, I'm just dying to know your feelings on putting a dead-or-alive bounty on a man's head in our civil society. What's next? A public stoning? Please condem this publicly and, at the very least, investigate it. In other words, do your job. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/04/zi ...

Sep 22, 2012
"Even if we put the best possible face on the Inspector General’s report about the “Fast and Furious” gunwalking scandal — and assume that embattled Attorney General Eric Holder knew nothing, nothing about a cockamamie operation that funneled thousands of American guns to murderous Mexican drug cartels until very late in the game — we’re still left with one stunning conclusion: Why the hell not? He certainly should have known, and it&rsquo ...

Jun 03, 2013
the ones that made your boss look good? Link ...

Sep 25, 2014
Too many scandals to keep up with... ...

May 28, 2010
Think it will go anywhere going to Holder? In PDF format, the original letter: http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/Letter_Holder_Sestak_100526.pdf ...

May 21, 2013
Eric Holder Challenged At Hearing Over AP Subpoenas, IRS Scandal WASHINGTON — Congressional Republicans and Democrats on Wednesday challenged Attorney General Eric Holder over the Justice Department's handling of the investigation of national security leaks and its failure to talk to The Associated Press before issuing subpoenas for the news service's telephone records. In exchanges that often turned testy, Holder defended the inquiry while pointing out that he had removed hims ...

May 24, 2013
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May 30, 2013
but.....he wants it as a "closed door" meeting; IOW, can't report what was said in that meeting. Are you kidding me? The more he tries to wiggle out of scandal, the more he digs himself into more outrage. News organizations are divided on whether to accept invitations Thursday and Friday for private meetings with Attorney General Eric Holder to discuss the Department of Justice guidelines on targeting journalists in leak investigations. The Justice Department invited Washington bu ...

Aug 05, 2013
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Sep 26, 2014
Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick. Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick Deval Patrick is one of the names consistently floated as a hypothetical replacement for Holder. Patrick worked as an assistant attorney general in the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department during the Clinton administration, and is a friend of Obama. The timing is also convenient for Patrick. He's not seeking reelection in Massachusetts and will be out of his job come January. Patrick would likely face a to ...

Nov 02, 2014
"Fast and Furious"and abortion clinic fraud." While outgoing Attorney General Eric Holder continues to fend off responsibility for the law enforcement snafu known as Operation Fast and Furious, documents obtained through a judge's order reveal that not only did Holder know about the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), but he discussed it via email with his physician spouse, Sharon Malone, however President Barack Obama is granting those emails to be wi ...

Oct 04, 2011
Documents obtained by CBS News prove that Holder had been receiving regular briefings on the botched sting operation as early as July, 2010. This revelation runs directly counter to testimony that Holder gave before a Congressional committee in which he claimed that he had no knowledge of the scandal before the press broke it. Seems to me like Eric Holder may have bitten off more than he can chew on this one. Curious to see how this plays out. ...

Jun 20, 2012
Holder really messed up, big time. He stonewalled and did not comply with submitting the lawfully requested documents. Now this. ...

Mar 05, 2013
Please note the 3rd paragraph, 2nd sentence on; but, of course, The President would only authorize lethal force within the U.S., ..... if necessary to protect the homeland....of a catastrophic attack like December 7, 1941 or September 11, 2001. http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/A_U.S.%20news/US-news-PDFs/BrennanHolderResponse.pdf ...

May 16, 2013
Duval Patrick - Chicago Sun Times reports. ...

May 24, 2013
Wondering. You can't make this stuff up. ...

May 28, 2013
Why does Holder think he’s above the law? Why does he think he can get away with lying and survive? Because he’s Obama’s pal? Well, both sides are now outraged over his testimony. I certainly hope they look back into F&F again….because he was lying then, too. The first story was posted 23 minute ago. Can it be that journalists are waking up and realizing that they have been lied to over some of these "scandals?" Did U.S. Attorney General E ...