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Anti-labor, anti-immigrant rhetoric morphs into full blown terrorism
Posted: Jul 23, 2011
at Labour Party sponsored summer camp. Wingnuts worldwide must be very proud.
What I don't get is why analysts say unless this turns out to be an organized effort with identifiable leaders behind it, it "probably won't have far-reaching, long-term effects." Reports say police and government "didn't see it coming" despite a significant increase in right-wing net chatter of late, since Islamic extremism is perceived to be "the greater threat." This despite the fact that wingnutism has been on the rise in Europe for years now?
What is that? Collective bigoted cultural wisdom informing national security forces that they should only take one threat at a time seriously? Right-wing extremist bullets and bombs are not as deadly as Islamic ones? If I were one of the parents of those summer camp kids, I would be making it my life's mission to inform them right back that Neo-Nazi terrorists kill kids deader than dead without remorse, that their actions merit the strongest condemnation in no uncertain terms, and that their parties deserve to be marginalized, scrutinized and monitored with exactly the same vigilence as Al-Qaeda cells, here, there and yonder.
Absolutely appalling.
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Extremism...whether it be left or right - sm
[ In Reply To ..]can be a dangerous thing. I don't believe this gives people an excuse to lump all right wing people as terrorists....although I'm sure some will give it a good try. We have all said before that there are nut jobs on both extreme sides. It is truly sad that stuff like this has to happen regardless who is at fault. How horrible!
Yes. They tried to slam the right wing when the AZ shootings - happened...and had nothing to do with it.
[ In Reply To ..]Was just a sicko nutcase. People always jump to conclusions, and cannot seem to help themselves from beating up the right, most of the time totally unjustified.
Just where do you think those thousands of voices inside - oughner's head came from? Tnin Air?
[ In Reply To ..]Don't even try to go there. The Christian right-wing extremist/Neo-Nazi connection is unmistakable and undeniable, as it came straight out of the perpetrator's mouth. This time, 84 kids at summer camp in the middle of one of the most pacifist nations on the face of the earth paid the price, for God's sake. Outrageous.
I suggest you familiarize yourself with Breivik's background, a self-avowed Christian fundamentalist and supporter of the Progress Party, an off-the-chart previously isolated and shunned libertarianesque populist political party of fiscal and social cons in Norway who have recently seized a higher profile in the political landscape. Impossible to read about them without drawing immediate parallels between them and certain similar recent US political movement newcomers. One can only hope this latest development will bring their rise in influence in Norway to an immediate halt, reverse the progress they have made and send them straight back to the no-fly zone on the extreme edges of the cultural fringosphere.
Something else that ain't gonna fly here is the isolated sicko "who me?" denials coming out of like-minded folks trying to dissociate themselves from his deadly take on shared ideologies. You might at least try waiting until they bury the dead before trying to hawk that snake oil.
That is such nonsense, and I think you know it. That - guy is a paranoid schizophrenic!!!.. Do NOT
[ In Reply To ..]associate his actions with ANY PARTY/RELIGION! You also don't know the basic facts here. Loughner was obsessed with Gabby Giffords, feeling ignored by her at an event back in 2007. You truly dont have a clue, yet you go off in this completely unfair rant. Shame.
I agree with condemning extremism regardless of flavor, - and
[ In Reply To ..]do not believe all right wingers are terrorists, BUT I find the lone wolf/nut job dismissals unacceptable. Sooner or later, the connection between extremely inflammatory rhetoric and terrorism, whether it be random acts by single persons or agendas carried out by organized global networks, must be made and more effectively addressed. The rhetoric permeates net, social media, blogosphere and forum chatter between individuals and irresponsible broadcast and print media that reaches millions of people.
Participants in all these venues who minimize, defend, deflect or otherwise blow off this connection and its significance bear a certain degree of culpability when it comes time to examine root causes, formulate appropriate responses and initiate more effective preventative measures. That is why I take such issue with the attitudes reflected in the reports and those of analysts who said such things as "it probably won't have far-reaching, long-term effects," (Really? Tell that to the kids' parents and loved ones of the victims) along with police and government officials who "didn't see it coming" despite a significant increase in right-wing net chatter because Islamic extremism is "the greater threat."
This kind of inept irresponsibility IMO is dangerous and can be deadly. The latter two are charged with leadership and security, the former with dissemination of information that would play a direct role in curbing such out-of-control dialog. In this particular instance, there was an explicit Christian component to the anti-labor, anti-immigrant belief systems of the perp. Political AND religious leaders, law enforcement officials, media broadcasters, their various pundits and all the rest of us could and should do better than this, not just turn a deaf ear and a blind eye to resume our business as usual.
Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! - Patrick Henry
[ In Reply To ..]However, it may be Barry Goldwater said that. I'm not sure.
or would you prefer . . .
Give me liberty, or give me death. That's pretty darn extreme too, and I know that Patrick Henry did say that.
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