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Wind turbine backlash

Posted: Feb 26, 2013

The townspeople don't want them anymore. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/26/cape-cod-community-considers-taking-down-wind-turbines-after-illness-noise/?test=latestnews;

Health issues surprised me - sm

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I thought wind energy would be "all good."

Nope. VERY noisy and kills a lot of birds on the migration routes. - Truthhurts

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Tough to say actually - Fanatical Hypocrite

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Wiki has an excellent summary of the hazards of wind turbines. I found the chart of bird deaths, especially helpful. Obviously cats, fossil fuel plants, vehicles and buildings pose a vastly higher risk. However, the turbines are more dangerous to large birds like raptors, who unfortunately have a slower breeding rate and thus it's easier to damage the population.

For wind power, it's all about selecting a location. I don't think they should be placed near houses in the same way no one should live next to a power plant of any kind. I've been near the big turbines and the sound, vibration and constant shadow movement actually made me rather nauseous. Also, they should be kept out of large bird migration areas. However, severe air pollution and further climate change would likely kill raptors off anyway, so 4 large birds getting knocked up alongside the head annually is probably the least threatening thing we're doing to them.

It's important for green energy advocates (of which I am one) to remember that all things have a downside. Everything has an impact of some kind. On the flip side of the coin, it's typically the politicians who support fossil fuels and care nothing for the environment that are the first ones to jump on the bandwagon that wind power might hurt birds.

Either way, as the dominant species sadly we will always be hurting other species, but if I have to choose between a giant, visible spinning blade or toxic air/uninhabitable planet, I pick the turbine. On a purely selfish human note, turbines may or may not be better for birds, but they are definitely better for us. While I don't want to live near a wind farm, I really, really don't want to live near a coal plant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_effects_of_wind_power#Birds

I read a while back that they fought against having them in the first place - Truthhurts

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but, again, the people didn't count and they were forced to accept those windmills...or am I confusing this with off-shore windmills they want to force on the people?

I hated seeing them in the desert. They have real - problems, but why on earth

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are you posting some foxnews.com exploitation of ignorance? Try National Geographic. The Smithsonian. Wired Magazine. Scientific American. Audobon Society Journal. SO many honest publications that have been discussing turbines, including all their faults, in detail FOR YEARS now.

Wind turbines are a joke and only line the pockets - of the companies who - sm

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manufacture them. I went to a BLM public comment meeting where they were proposing to install solar panels (another joke). A group of us went to hear what they had to say. They are no different than the wind turbines. The turbines are so costly to repair, the don't repair them. They abandon them and then that's that. The same happens with the solar panels. Once they have issues, they will abdandon them. This came straight from the BLM and the companies. They pay a fee for "clean up" of what they leave behind, but that land is scarred forever and they don't clean it up/remove the broken turbines. Look at the turbines farms in CA - Windy Point. I specifically brought that up and that's when they said it's cheaper to leave them than fix them. The whole green energy thing is just a racket and the only ones who benefit are those who make the panels/turbines and the companies who build the farms. There are only a handful of jobs created - less than 10 for each farm. The only way to really make an impact is for the houses in the sunbelt to be fitted with solar panels. And businesses that have the roof footprint for it, too. Species die off. It is the way of evolution. The whole global warming is a farce as well and just a ploy to make money. If you look at the history of the earth, it has been warming far before we got here. It is a graph that waxes and wanes. Even the scientists say its not true - except for those tied to deep pockets corporations who benefit from the scare. I typed a very lengthy summit from scientists all over the world - those which make these reports. This was secretly taped and they admitted there is no clear global warming.

I have some questions - Fanatical Hypocrite

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I'm not asking rhetorical questions, I want your honest opinion. Do you believe fossil fuels will last forever? If not forever, how long do you think they will last? Once they run out, what do we do then?

As for your statements, the vast majority of scientists believe in global warming. However, you are right about the Earth having natural periods of heating and cooling. Ignoring the entire global warming thing, which is only a theory (a widely accepted theory, yet theory nonetheless), we know for a fact that pollution has an effect. Anyone who went to Los Angeles in the 90's or China now has seen pollution with their own eyes. Air and water pollution are dangerous not only to the environment, but to human beings as well. Radiation and land pollution are no less serious. Do you believe that pollution exists and can be harmful if unregulated?

I do agree that individual home/business solar systems are very important to the process. In fact, I'd say overall that is the simplest solution because giant power plants always take a lot of time, maintenance and space.

As for species dying off, you're also right. For instance, I think Pandas are a waste of time. They're adorable, but the poor things were doomed before we found them. However, the human race is also a species and we too can die off. If we destroy our own ecosystem, we too will die. While our current green tech needs improvement, if we don't try something and start working out the problems through trial and error - if we stick with what we're doing now - we will face serious consequences.

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