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Posted: Nov 25, 2013

Just before the sun rose on Geneva on Sunday, international negotiators emerged to announce Iran and world powers had reached a deal to curb Iran's nuclear program for six months while the two sides work out a permanent, more sweeping solution.

Today, the deal is being called historic. USA Today says it may be President Obama's most unlikely and most meaningful foreign policy victory during his time in office.

In short, it is the first time in about a decade that Iran has agreed to halt some of its nuclear activities. Also, this is the most tangible outcome of a newly thawed relationship between the U.S. and Iran. Remember, the two countries have had no formal ties since the 1979 Iranian Revolution. That all changed when Obama and Iran's new, moderate president, Hassan Rouhani, exchanged letters in September.

Later that month, after Rouhani set a new tone during his first visit to the United Nations, the two leaders exchanged a historic phone call. After marathon negotiating sessions, which included two trips to Geneva by Secretary of State John Kerry, Iran reached a deal with the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council (U.S., Russia, China, U.K., France) plus Germany.

During a rare Saturday night address, Obama told the country that while this is "just a first step, it achieves a great deal."

"Today, that diplomacy opened up a new path toward a world that is more secure — a future in which we can verify that Iran's nuclear program is peaceful and that it cannot build a nuclear weapon," Obama said.

Perhaps the most succinct analysis of the deal was tweeted by Ali Vaez, a senior Iran analyst for International Crisis Group, which describes itself as an "independent, non-partisan, source of analysis and advice to governments, and intergovernmental bodies."

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These are indeed scary times we live in. I've read - it's 1938 all over again,

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Israel is a sitting duck as history repeats itself.

Saudi Arabia warns it will strike out on its - own...

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Saudi Arabia claims they were kept in the dark by Western allies over Iran nuclear deal and says it will strike out on its own.

A senior advisor to the Saudi royal family has accused its Western allies of deceiving the oil rich kingdom in striking the nuclear accord with Iran and said Riyadh would follow an independent foreign policy.

Nawaf Obaid told a think tank meeting in London that Saudi Arabia was determined to pursue its own foreign and policy goals. Having in the past been reactive to events, the leading Sunni Muslim nation was determined to be pro-active in future.

Mr Obaid said that while Saudi Arabia knew that the US was talking directly to Iran through a channel in the Gulf state of Oman, Washington had not directly briefed its ally.

"We were lied to, things were hidden from us," he said. "The problem is not with the deal struck in Geneva but how it was done."

I don't trust Iran, the #1 sponsor of terrorists, - with a nuclear weapon.

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These are indeed scary times.
Then this break in diplomatic ice should be - welcome news. nm
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A sitting duck with nukes, unlike any of its - Middle Eastern neighbors.

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Though they are very secretive about their program, estimates range between 75 and 400 warheads, to include intermediate-range ballistic missile, intercontinental ballistic missile, aircraft, and submarine-launched cruise missile delivery systems. Mordechai Vanunu, who worked at the Dimona Nuclear Research Centre in the Negev desert for 9 years, provided explicit details and photos of that facility's history and program about 10 years ago. Israel's first PM, David Ben-Gurion, was known to be obsessed with obtaining nuclear weapons. It was one of his first orders of business after taking office back in the late 40s and early 50s. Perhaps this life-long history since its founding explains Israel's refusal to sign the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, ya think?

No, it's not 1938 all over again.


http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3640613.stm

And we paid for the nukes with our tax dollars .... - me

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...so I'm sure the US government knows exactly how well Israel can defend itself.

What I love about Obama - Obama 2016

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Is that there are all kinds of things happening, and then all of a sudden out of the blue, he succeeds in some major policy that no one expects, I.e., capturing Bin Laden and now getting substantial talks going with Iran. All kinds of people are all wound up because they don't have instanteous internet access to Obamacare, and Obama is out, perhaps preventing the next nuclear war.

My thoughts exactly. - Unprecedented cooperation

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from Iran on a nuclear moratorium and no word here, but just wait until next year's Easter Egg roll, when there will be 20 threads chastising the first lady for feeding children vegetables.

I have to give him credit for working along with our allies to do this, but sm - Oldie

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It makes me nervous that both Israel AND Saudi Arabia are not comfortable. If it was just Israel, that would be understandable, but Saudi Arabia, too?

Polly want a cracker? - Juror #4

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parrot talk - sm
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Or perhaps causing it to start sooner. It's just a distraction - from Obamacare epic fail.

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Wise up

Now that's funny - Amazed

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I guess I've just never understood blind love. At least your post did give me the giggles, but then I rolled my eyes so hard I saw my brain.

I don't know of any policy he has succeeded at yet, except putting more people out of work, getting an epic failure of the HC passed, blaming everyone else for things that are his fault. Bin Laden? He didn't "capture him". Won't even begin on the Iran thing. Our country is in a more dangerous place since this admin took over.

Nobody is screaming about instantaneous internet access. What they are concerned about is for days and day and days they cannot get access, only to find out that once they put their personal information in it is not safe and that criminals are taking our personal information down. Obama is not out preventing the next nuclear war, but we now fear it because of what is happening. Our own country is at odds with each other because of the mess this regime has caused.

But Bush in a flight suit - Mission Accomplished

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gets applause and love and Obama actually getting bin Laden is not even acknowledged.

I recall Bush calling North Korea and Iran the "Axis of Evil" and riling up the whole world. I recall Bush starting 2 wars.

I think Obama's peaceful solutions are doing much better. He totally deserves his Peace prize.
We're not talking about Bush - do try and stay on track
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Obama didn't get bin laden.

This guy and his crew has put our country in more danger than it ever was. That is certainly not deserving of any peace prize.

There are also people here and in other countries (to include democrats here) that are asking Obama to give back the Nobel peace prize. Something he did nothing to deserve. There is just something about giving a peace prize to a war criminal that is wrong.

Oh you so don't even want to go into all that now.
I believe the post was referring to blind love - sm
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and providing an example of same. As far as war criminals go, Bush can't even travel to Geneva, Switzerland due to criminal complaints charging him with violating international treaties. Oops.

"His trouble increased dramatically a year ago when Bush — along with former Vice President Dick Cheney, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and several other top Bush administration officials — were convicted of war crimes in absentia by a special war crimes tribunal in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia."
Still has nothing to do with Bush. - nm
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Keep drinking the Kool Aid - Another swig ought to finish you off
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Sad to see someone with no history knowledge.

"Mission Accomplish" was from the troops on the ship that wanted to post that message. Bush had nothing to do with the desire of the troops to post that banner. The troops wanted the world to know that they had completed the mission that they were entrused with...but since you are too busy posting your BS on this board, you missed that.

Bush did not start 2 wars. Those of us that watched the entire congressional hearings AND the UN hearings that were all over CNN know what happened...you not so much.

OBAMA TOTAL EPIC FAILURE ON ALL FRONTS...NOTHING BUT A MANCHURIAN, EMPTY=HEADED BUFFOON WHO CANNOT TIE HIS SHOES WITHOUT HELP. SHOULD GIVE BACK THE PEACE PRIZE.


Are You Being Serious? - Shel

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Is this a serious comment? I couldn't even list the failures of this president on a whole page - yet you site a disatrous foreign policy decision as his one of two successes? Obviously, you are not on the side of Israel - or you are happy that Iran is going to use $10 billion of US dollars to build a nuclear weapon? Man, you koolaid drinkers are WAY FAR GONE.

Iran is going to use $10 billion of US dollars - to build a nuclear weapon??

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what on earth are you referring to?
Are you really that gullible? - Shel
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Hmmm...like no other country has ever used US supplied weapons, money, etc...to turn around and use them against us? What do you think Iran will use these US dollars for? You seem to be as naive as Obama (they love us, don't they?).
No, obviously, I am not that gullible. - you admit you just made it up?!
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If you denounce propaganda, fight it with the truth. Making stuff up just doesn't cut it.
Why not??? - Shel
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And while we are at it...how about we fix your air fleet for free so you can continue to export your terrorists, drugs and weapons as cargo? Sounds like a great plan, doesn't it?
more of the same - nm
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What? so laughable it is sad. The deal with Iran - is nothing but dangerous and naive.

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...but that is Obama... clueless

Obama says the world is now more secure. - Seriously? How foolish and

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naive to think this agreement will stop Iran from doing whatever it has set out to do.

Iran has shaken its fist at the West for decades. This is yet just another opportunity Iran needs to finish building the bomb. Iran little cares what the West thinks and will continue its path to build a nuclear weapon and plunge the world into nuclear war. America just waved the white flag and Tehran rejoices with laughter.

The WSJ and many other world media sources say that Iran does not have to suspend its uranium enrichment program, but Pres Obama in his press conference says Iran will have their programs halted. Someone is lying.

The Saudis with their recent purchase of Pakistani nukes implies to me that they do not trust the US to protect them anymore.

This sends chills down my spine. Rouhani - says the very same words

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that Hitler said so long ago. The world has no idea what is about to happen.

yes, seriously - sm

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America did not wave the white flag; I think you may not be apprised of the facts, which can be read at the link below.

"The Iranian nuclear deal struck Saturday night is a triumph. It contains nothing that any American, Israeli, or Arab skeptic could reasonably protest. Had George W. Bush negotiated this deal, Republicans would be hailing his diplomatic prowess, and rightly so."

I suggestStratfor, a global intelligence - website...

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thanks; great link - nm
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Seriously, you need to take off the rose-colored glasses - Obama total failure.

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Repeating something over and over - mbmt
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When those on the far right repeat over and over that President Obama is a total failure, to me it sounds more like wishful thinking. Is the wish that perhaps the rest of us will agree if we read that several thousand times? I actually think he is a very intelligent, capable leader.
Then you should stop speaking - Always the same Obama love - got old day 1
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Your old, stale rhetoric sound more like wishful thinking. Like so many us that can think without Lib talking points...Obama complete total failure. Those with a verifiable IQ can easily see why Obama such a failure...idol worshippers not so much.
Then why hasn't he shown us any of these qualities? - All I see is stupidity and failure.
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Obama counts on his Kool Aid drinkers so Obama - doesn't have to do anything
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Obama counts on the poorly educated, ill-informed, ideologic communists embracers to carry his water. He is without a doubt, the most incompetent, lazy, useless pres of my lifetime.
eye of the beholder - nm
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The smart money is on Obama lying - Only thing Obama does well is lie

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