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Lawful or Awful?


Posted: Nov 23, 2014

1. A group of 10 law professors who filed a letter supporting Obama’s legal powers to make immigration policy decisions by executive order

“While we differ among ourselves on many issues relating to Presidential power and immigration policy, we are all of the view that these actions are lawful. They are exercises of prosecutorial discretion that are consistent with governing law and with the policies that Congress has expressed in the statutes that it has enacted.”

2. Jonathan Adler on the Volokh Conspiracy blog

“Immigration law is an area in which — for good or ill — Congress has given the executive wide latitude.  Under some other laws, including the PPACA, Congress was not so generous.  In evaluating claims of executive overreach it is important to consider the relevant statutes, as whether the President is exceeding his bounds largely depends on the nature and scope of the power Congress delegated in the first place.”

3. Nicholas Quinn Rosenkranz in an interview with the website The Blaze

“Pre-emptively announcing that you will not enforce the law against a population of millions — this is several orders of magnitude beyond traditional case-by-case prosecutorial discretion,” Rosenkranz said. “In this case, the president is reportedly considering affirmative actions — issuing of papers and so forth — that would purport to confer some legal status. This is a giant step beyond traditional prosecutorial discretion.”

4. Elizabeth Price Foley in a New York Times op-ed prior to Obama’s speech

“While several presidents — both Republican and Democrat — have used prosecutorial discretion to temporarily delay deportation in the face of wars (Nicaragua, Kuwait), hurricanes or earthquakes (El Salvador, Nicaragua, Honduras) and other discrete natural and political catastrophes, no other president has claimed the constitutional authority to ignore immigration law because he believes it’s unfair as a matter of permanent national policy. At some point, the discretion not to prosecute a law becomes a failure to faithfully execute it. Whether President Obama’s immigration policies have crossed that line will be a matter for both courts and the American people to judge.

5. Walter Dellinger on The Slate website

“The president is not acting contrary to any statutory mandate. Nothing in the president’s action sets a precedent for unbridled executive action (as Marty Lederman sets out in apost for Balkinization). To note one example, although a president can cut back on enforcement of tax laws, no president can relieve any one American of a statutory obligation to pay taxes. The next president can come collecting—and interest and penalties will be accruing until he or she does.”

6. Erwin Chemerinsky on the New Republic website

“The federal courts, too, have recognized that presidents inherently have the power to choose not to enforce immigration laws in a particular instance and thus to not initiate deportation proceedings even when a person is not lawfully in the country. In a famous case involving John Lennon, the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit held that the president could issue an “an informal administrative stay of deportation” to allow Lennon to remain in the country. The case, INS v. Lennon, allowed the executive branch to halt the deportation of Lennon and expressly recognized president’s constitutional power to exercise prosecutorial discretion in the immigration context.”

7. Shannen W. Coffin to the New York Times

“This action certainly looks a lot more like, ‘I’m changing the rules of the game,’ rather than ‘I’m just choosing not to exercise my discretion,’ and that runs counter to Congress’s power to decide what the law is,” said Coffin, who in the George W. Bush administration was a Justice Department lawyer. “It’s highly questionable as a constitutional matter.”

8. Ilya Somin on the Volokh Conspiracy blog

“If you believe that the Constitution should be interpreted in accordance with its original meaning, and that nonoriginalist Supreme Court decisions should be overruled or at least viewed with suspicion, then you should welcome the use of presidential discretion to cut back on enforcement of laws that themselves go against the original meaning. I am no fan of the Obama administration’s approach to constitutional interpretation. In too many instances, the president really has acted illegally and undermined the rule of law – most notably by starting wars without congressional authorization. But today’s decision isn’t one of them.”

9. Ilya Shapiro on the Cato Institute website

“Accordingly, while the applicable immigration laws give the president discretion that’s quite broad, either (1) this executive action goes beyond even that broad grant of power, or (2) the laws themselves are an unconstitutional delegation of legislative power. After all, Congress could not constitutionally pass a law saying, “The president is now dictator and can make any laws he wishes”—even temporarily or regarding but one area of policy. So if the administration’s defenders are right that President Obama is toeing but not crossing the letter of the law, then that letter is invalid and the president’s actions are still unconstitutional.”

10. Eric Posner on the Slate website

“Thus, the president’s discretion to enforce the immigration laws has always been the cornerstone of a de facto guest-worker (or, if you want, caste) system from which most Americans have greatly benefited. That’s why Republicans’ claim that the president is shredding the Constitution sounds so odd to people knowledgeable about immigration law. He’s just doing what countless Congresses have wanted him to do, and have effectively forced him to do, so that Congress itself could avoid charges that it has created a two-tier system of citizenship where the bottom tier is allowed to stay in this country and work, but is not allowed to vote, to benefit from welfare programs, to travel freely, or to enjoy the full protection of workplace laws. Of course, you might say that the whole illegal immigration system, with its two-tier system of rights, violates the Constitution or at least constitutional values, but the fault for that lies with Congress, not with the president.”

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President Obama strode into the White House - sm

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President Obama strode into the White House promising to give the American people the audacity of hope. What we are witnessing instead, with his immigration agenda, is an audacious grab for power and an evisceration of the Constitution.

Having kicked the can down the road, obviously refusing to ruin his own chances for re-election in 2012, and tap-dancing on the issue until after the 2014 mid-term elections, Obama now disdainfully punches the amnesty card for upwards of five million illegal residents with the knowledge that almost half of all Americans polled oppose his maneuver.

With the stroke of a pen, Obama rewards those who arrogantly mock our border laws while simultaneously telling those hopeful immigrants still waiting patiently to lawfully come to America that they are chumps.

After these five million or so, what then? The magnet that draws illegal immigrants across the border just got stronger. They will come expecting, — no, demanding — to get “Obama’s amnesty.”

In 2010, defending his inaction on immigration issues, Obama said, “I’m president, I’m not king. I can’t do these things just by myself.” That’s all changed, and the Constitution lies in tatters as a result.

What the president has done is just make it official - ...

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Illegals are now VIP citizens because they are "protected" while getting 125 different benefits that no other group of people can qualify for, in essence; bankrupting our social services system.

This action does not harm the wealthy, but does threaten the poor and the retired Seniors.

I feel that the government has turned its back to me ( I am a senior and retired) while favoring these illegals. They are being used as economic slaves by those wealthy, and this includes; Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, and probably 75% of all congressional leaders.

All of these millionaires hire domestic servants. They are not going to come up with some actual legislation to end this slave labor because they are participating in it!
If you don't like being made into a second class, or third class citizen by YOUR government, what are YOU doing about it? Get involved! Start grass roots movements to TAKE BACK YOUR GOVERNMENT! My wife and I fought City Hall and WON! it can be done!

Obviously, these clowns are in that 38% who approve. - Former Democrat

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I have no doubt that these obscure "scholars" (clearing throat) are more elitist socialists who need their houses cleaned and their lawns mowed. Your post does not fool me one bit.

And I'm sure all these professors are - party-neutral, right?

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Right!

A little research shows that of the 10, seven are registered democrats, two live in states that don't disclose party affiliation - both donate exclusively to democrat candidates, however, and the lone republican (Eric Posner) is also an exclusive democrat donor and has written many times that Obama can literally "do whatever he wants" when it comes to executive authority.

Three of the scholars are from the University of Chicago, where Obama taught constitutional law.

One scholar, Lee Bollinger, is the president of Columbia University, where Obama did his undergraduate work. Bollinger is also involved in the effort to make Columbia the site of Obamas's presidential library.

Walter Dellinger served in the Clinton administration and is friends with Justice Elana Kagan (nominated by Obama to the SCOTUS).

And Laurence Tribe, a mentor to Obama at Harvard, called him "the best student I ever had and the most exciting research assistant." He also heavily campaigned for Obama.

It's okay, though - Gruber probably assured him the voters were too stupid to realize any of this.

11 million? - Yes ..

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Yes, everyone in this country, (except the Native Americans, and the Black American slaves, I can't say African, because most have no idea where in Africa they came from, who were brought here unwillingly, and did not migrate here on their own free will--these are the only two groups of people who did not migrate here as migrants), migrated from somewhere on their own free will, everyone, except the two groups above. We all get that! I also get that if you file the paperwork, and you do it right, it takes a good 15 years to get here, legally, or longer. And yes it is tedious, expensive, and painstakingly annoying, but it is unfair for anyone to be allowed to stay here in this country, if they didn't follow the rules. Yes there are exceptions to these rules, like filling high tech jobs/medical/education, etc., But rules are not made to be broken or negotiated, they are made to keep a country civil, fair, and just. What is our President smoking, really? Who the heck is his adviser(s)?

We can't even afford the people we have here that are legal. We can't afford to do a better job educating Americans; we can't afford to properly feed and house our U.S. Veterans; we Americans, legal Americans, who are homeless without health care are suffering; we have college students who have more debt than what we owe China, and they can't even find jobs, let alone pay their student loans off. How can we take care of someone else's home, when we haven't taken care of our home. Who are we too relieve Mexico of their poor, when they wouldn't think twice to shut the door on our poor, or worse kill them. Who are we to continue thinking that we are so rich to be big brother to the world's poor, to the fairness of unjust societies, we just don't get it, we don't get it!

He doesn't have the power .. - sm

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He does not have the power to grant millions of people work papers. The plan he's outlined didn't 'fix' immigration problems because our problems with LEGAL immigration ...the cost, time and red tape, is what is broken. Illegal immigration isn't broken...we need to ENFORCE the law. Secure the Border. And then deal with 'pathways' issues with the people here. Don't listen to them when they say our border is secure. It is not. Homeland security changed the definition in government speak for the word "deportation". Now people stopped at the border and refused entry are 'deported'...that's why the numbers look better. His plan to 'background check' people that apply for work papers....5 million people mean about 8100 people a week applying...WHO is going to run those checks? There aren't enough clerks!! AND they aren't deporting criminals now!! What we heard last night was complete BS...bottom line. This president should be impeached but he won't be. I just pray we can survive the next two years.

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