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About the arrested missionaries in Haiti


Posted: Feb 3, 2010

The more I hear about those missionaries in Haiti the more I think they knew full well what they were doing was wrong, wrong, wrong! They were knocking on doors asking for children?

from yahoo news...

Haitian judge questions detained Americans

By FRANK BAJAK, Associated Press Writer Frank Bajak, Associated Press Writer 42 mins ago

PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti – A group of U.S. Baptist missionaries arrested trying to leave Haiti with a busload of children faced more questioning by a local judge, while an orphanage director said many of the children had parents.

The investigating magistrate was to meet with the five men on Wednesday, a day after he questioned the five women for several hours at judicial police headquarters, where they are jailed, according to Haiti's communications minister. No lawyers were present.

Minister Marie-Laurence Jocelyn Lassegue said the evidence from the judge will be presented to a Haitian district attorney who will decide whether to file criminal charges against the 10 Americans.

The Baptists from Idaho say they were only trying to help orphans survive the earthquake. But legal experts say taking children across a border without documents or government permission can be considered child trafficking.

At the SOS Children's Village orphanage where authorities are protecting the 33 children, regional director Patricia Vargas said none who are old enough and willing to talk said they are parentless: "Up until now we have not encountered any who say they are an orphan."

Vargas said most of the children are between 3 and 6 years old, and unable to provide phone numbers or any other details about their origins.

The Americans apparently enlisted a clergyman who went knocking on doors asking people if they wanted to give away their children, the director of Haiti's social welfare agency, Jeanne Bernard Pierre, told The Associated Press.

"One child said to me, 'When they came knocking on our door asking for children, my mom decided to give me away because we are six children and by giving me away she would have only five kids to care for,'" Bernard Pierre said.

Many of the children, said SOS Children's Villages spokesman George Willeit, came from an orphanage near the airport.

Prime Minister Max Bellerive has suggested the Americans could be prosecuted in the United States because Haiti's shattered court system may not be able to cope with a trial.

"It is clear now that they were trying to cross the border without papers. It is clear now that some of the children have live parents. And it is clear now that they knew what they were doing was wrong," Bellerive told the AP.

The White House has said the case remains in Haitian hands for now.
Central Valley Baptist Church Assistant Pastor Drew Ham in Idaho called Tuesday for their immediate release, saying questioning them without lawyers violates the Haitian Constitution.

The U.S. government could claim jurisdiction to try them in the United States, but one expert on international abductions doubts it will happen, since prosecutors are likely to take into account the mitigating circumstances.

"They have obviously made a huge mistake by unilaterally going into Haiti and taking children without the permission and knowledge of the Haitian government. It's a crime in Haiti and anywhere in the world to take or abduct children even if the underlying intentions were humanitarian or good in nature," said Christopher Schmidt, an attorney with Bryan Cave LLP in St. Louis.

"Whether or not a prosecutor would choose to prosecute these individuals in this case is an open question. Frankly I have doubts whether a prosecutor would want to go down that path," he said.

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What about the parents - who gave their children to them?

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Are they held accountable at all?

Pardon me, you mean the account ONE child age unknown gave - after removal from the parents? sm

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The kid has just been through an earthquake, had his world turned upside down, witnessed unspeakable horrors, heard all kinds of talk from all kinds of people of other horror stories, been exposed to the cries of people dying as they await rescue and the carnage of those pulled out, seen dead bodies pile up in the streets, then disappear into mass graves, smelled the stench of death and disease polluting the air he breathes, watched the occupation of his commumnity by aid workers, doctors, foreign media, militias and US disaster profiteers.

How reliable do you think his perception is at the moment and does he not deserve at least some modest benefit from child and parent advocates trying to prevent his imminent abduction from his country and possible entry into a human traffcking/adoption ring and profit scheme? Huh?

No, I mean the parents who admit they gave their children to - Strangers At The Door

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"Things are real bad. Let me just give my child away. They said they would bring him back later. Oh, did I do something wrong??"


Not buying the poor/uneducated/midst of devastation excuse.  You don't just hand your child over to a stranger promising "something better."

Where's your source of info? So you give a pass to - strangers knocking at the door who
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are are charged with kidnapping and criminal association? They promised to educate the kids and "let" the parents visit them. Riiigghhhttt. Can you say exploitation of unimaginable human suffering in the name of Christian charity? These are loving parents who are TEMPORARILY unable to feed and clothe their children, rendered hopelessly devastated by a natural disaster. What ever happened to keeping families together? You think Christian kidnapping is the answer? What if Moslems missionaries did this. Would it look the same to you?

Real charity does not look like that. Your pot shot at impoverished, grief-stricken earthquake victims who may be homeless, jobless, starving, injured and sick is textbook Limbaugh. Seems inappropriate to impose that bootstrap lashing from your warm and cozy armchair quarterback's crows nest.
See message for source. (sm) - Nikki
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‘We gave them away’ say parents of ‘kidnapped’ Haitians


By Agence France-Presse
Sunday, February 7th, 2010 -- 3:41 pm


"I would like to give up my son again," says Anchello Cantave, a farmer here, who willingly handed over his five-year-old to US missionaries now facing charges of child abduction in Haiti's post-quake chaos.


An hour outside of the devastated Haitian capital Port-au-Prince, Callebasse is a poor town set in the mountains, where a massive 7.0-magnitude earthquake on January 12 destroyed 50 homes.


Just two days later, 10 American missionaries from the US state of Idaho arrived in town.


To impoverished parents desperate to give their children a better future, they offered the promise of something more -- but they also represented the children as orphans when they tried to take them across the border to the Dominican Republic.


Cantave, 36, is convinced that the Americans had only good intentions.


"It's better for our children to stay with strangers in a foreign country," he told AFP.


But Haitian authorities have been less forgiving.


After the group was detained trying to cross in the Dominican Republic with 33 children on January 29, they now faces charges of child abduction and criminal association.


"The Americans took the children with permission from us, the parents," said Fritzian Valmont, the father of three daughters aged 11, eight and two.


"If they had had a big bus that could have taken more children, even more would have gone," he added, with all the pride of a parent trying to secure the best future for his daughter.


The remainder of the article can be found at:


http://rawstory.com/2010/02/we-gave-away-parents-kidnapped-haitians/


 


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