A community of 30,000 US Transcriptionist serving Medical Transcription Industry

I think they scare me more than anything


Posted: May 26, 2013

What kind of purely evil mind would even consider controlling the entire world's food and water, poisoning the Earth's creatures, sickening our children . . . their motives are more than my simple mind can understand.

ttp://www.alternet.org/take-action/5-most-horrifying-things-about-monsanto-why-you-should-join-global-movement-and-protest

;

Wow. - Just

[ In Reply To ..]
Wow.

You read it on the internet, so it must be true.

Sure wish there was a way to monetize gullibility.

it is true, do you homework, nm - miller

[ In Reply To ..]
xxx

BTW, look up Monsanto Protection Act, most of their stuff is GMO.nm - miller

[ In Reply To ..]
xxx

Wow - Roseanne

[ In Reply To ..]
I've made a conscious decision not to rise to the baiting that occurs on this board anymore. There are people I like to try to communicate with in spite of all the other psychobabble. So, have another bowl of Fruit Loops while the bees die and they defoilate your neighborhood . . . and tell me everything is hunky dory.

the gullibility has run amok - Roseanne

[ In Reply To ..]
Only the gullible would believe that an entire nation could act independently of the good ole US of A.

http://naturalsociety.com/india-slams-monsanto-with-unprecedented-biopiracy-charges/

Obama signs Monsanto Protection Act... see link - miller

[ In Reply To ..]
tttt
The whole government is involved - Empirelady
[ In Reply To ..]
All the way up to the Supreme Court. Bought and sold.
Amen. If you have Netflix, watch a show called House of Cards, sm - miller
[ In Reply To ..]
the American version with Kevin Spacey, it's accurate and shows how Washington REALLY works, all parties (I call beast #1 and beast #2).
Netflix is another company that forces you to - sm
[ In Reply To ..]
give up your right to sue.

From: http://www.dailytech.com/Netflix+Changes+Terms+of+Service+Makes+It+Difficult+to+Sue/article24277.htm

Netflix likely changed this in response to its loss of a class-action suit in 2011

Netflix recently changed its terms of service to include a passage which asks users to surrender their right to take Netflix to court.

The addition to Netflix's terms of service says that users who agree have no right to take Netflix to court, no matter what the situation is. However, users can still file a complaint or go to small claims court.

The passage in the Arbitration Agreement is as follows:

"These Terms of Use provide that all disputes between you and Netflix will be resolved by BINDING ARBITRATION. YOU AGREE TO GIVE UP YOUR RIGHT TO GO TO COURT to assert or defend your rights under this contract (except for matters that may be taken to small claims court). Your rights will be determined by a NEUTRAL ARBITRATOR and NOT a judge or jury and your claims cannot be brought as a class action."

not the poster you responded to... - sm
[ In Reply To ..]
but the Netflix thing is entirely different from the Monsanto thing. We are talking about the difference between a customer agreement versus widespread product liability and food source sustainability issues. Not to mention the tumors GMO corn causes in rats.
I totally agree with you regarding the difference. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]
I was just pointing out that it seems to be a trend to deny the public their right to sue.

I wonder how many other companies are now doing the same thing.
Obama signs - Roseanne
[ In Reply To ..]
In Obama's defense (to a certain degree) it was tucked into another bloated farm bill. Roy Blunt is notorious for that. It almost got in under the radar but there has been such a public outcry that the Senate is moving to repeal it. While I can't say I'm not a bit disappointed in Obama, I can't imaging he is so misguided as to give Monsanto more power than the US government. So when you read Monsanto Protection Act = Obama = evil, remember it was the Republican senator from Missouri who has been in Monsanto's pocket for years who tried to weasel it through. Time for Roy Blunt to go.
.....only if he takes Obama with him. - Both guilty as sin.
[ In Reply To ..]
nm
Blunt needs to go AND policy rider reform is needed. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]

Some may remember me posting this before; pardon the redundancy, but I think it bears repeating. 


Policy Riders: Bringing Transparency to a Shadowy Legislative Process


 5/30/2012


Schoolhouse Rock was only partly correct: getting a bill through Congress is just one way to turn proposals into law. Another way to write your policy demands into law is to hide them in the funding bills Congress passes every year to keep the government running. These “policy riders” in appropriations bills are temporary, but they establish new policies just like normal laws. Their use effectively shuts the public out of important policy discussions, and they undermine the openness of the legislative process. To remedy this practice, Congress can take some lessons learned from its reforms of the earmarking process.   ....


....  Banning riders outright is not a practical solution, since in certain limited circumstances, they are an appropriate tool for Congress to use to guide agency actions. However, increasing transparency could mitigate policy rider abuse, as those inside and outside of Congress would have a greater opportunity to track and understand their implications.


Before it forswore earmarks in the current session, Congress made a concerted effort to bring this hidden aspect of appropriations bills into the light. Several of the steps Congress took to make earmarks more visible to the public could also be used for policy riders.


The most important reform would be to create a central list of all the riders in a bill, as both House and Senate rules required for earmarks. This list should be created by the Appropriations Committee staff and be made available to the public in advance of any vote on an appropriations bill, either in committee or on the floor of either house. The list should be more than a simple enumeration of riders; it should include a section describing the purpose and intent of each provision. Forcing members of Congress to clearly spell out the anticipated impact of their proposed riders would help the public understand just what their representatives are voting on and would bring a great deal of transparency to riders.


Additionally, the list of riders should be made machine-readable, which would facilitate rapid distribution of the list to citizens and interested parties via the web. Making the list available in THOMAS, the legislative database where many people inside and outside of Congress get information on bills, would also help raise awareness of the policy changes contained in riders.


Moreover, the riders should be highlighted in the text of the bills themselves. Currently, riders are often buried deep within the text of appropriations bills, which can stretch hundreds of pages, and if users do not know about the full list, they would find it difficult to find the hidden riders in the legislation. Having some kind of flag for these riders would help make them easier to spot and identify. Also, flagging the riders allows users to understand the provisions in context and draws attention to issues or programs that might have an unusual number of riders targeted at them, something a simple list of riders might not help with.


Forcing Congress to highlight and list all of the policy riders in its appropriations bills will not stop harmful or controversial riders from ever passing. But the steps detailed above will ensure policy changes are not slipped into massive bills without the public or legislators fully understanding their implications, and these reforms will bring transparency to this shadowy corner of congressional policymaking.


 


http://www.foreffectivegov.org/node/12087

great - sm

[ In Reply To ..]
As our food crops devolve into genetically modified products, I hope you are able to find sustenance in the empty repetition of your party's mantra.

I feel the same way, Roseanne - Empirelady

[ In Reply To ..]
And you aren't being gullible. That many other countries who ban frankenfood proves that you aren't. Any company who pushes, and succeeds, in having our GOVERNMENT's protection from law suit from their product obviously knows more about their product than they are letting on.

Just continue to eat as organically as you can, frequent farmer's markets and question the farmers about their growing processes.

No one single company should have the power that this one does. It's criminal.

EmpireLady - Roseanne

[ In Reply To ..]

We are not alone.  I actually had a good chat with a lady at the bank the other day about Monsanto/GMO, someone I never thought would be the least bit interested . . .


We decided to just drink beer and eat the styrofoam coolers Wink

Vermont just passed a law that all genetically...sm - VTMT

[ In Reply To ..]
engineered food sold in the state be labeled as such. Everyone has a right to know where their food is coming from.

Go Vermont! Huge thumbs up! (NM) - Empirelady

[ In Reply To ..]
.

Ditto Go Vermont - Roseanne

[ In Reply To ..]
Frankly I don't think it would do any harm to this country to give the states back the full sovereign rights that the Feds under a Democrat, unfortunately, tend to stick their noses into way too much to my liking. I still believe Democractic ideals are basically benevolent but we can't save the whole world. Good for Vermont for taking a stand!

I wish all states had VT's backbone - good going, Vermont

[ In Reply To ..]

Without diving into pros and cons of GM plants - (which I don't really know much about)

[ In Reply To ..]
I thought pretty much all of the corn grown in the US was genetically modified.

If I'm right about that (and a quick Google seems to back that up), then it's going to be interesting to see how far up the processing chain Vermont requires labeling. (It's surprising -- and I think alarming, GM or not -- how ubiquitous corn is in processed foods.)
It's getting there - Empirelady
[ In Reply To ..]
I don't know if all the corn grown in U.S. is GMO'd, but Monsanto and their ilk are working on it by cross-contaminating neighboring farmers' traditional corn crops and then suing (and winning) the farmers for using their "patented" corn. Many farmers have tried to fight and completely lost everything. And, then guess who is more than willing to offer a price to the now bankrupt farmers for their land?

"What kind of purely evil mind..." - sm

[ In Reply To ..]
That's an easy question.

The republicans, that's who.

------------- - ----------

[ In Reply To ..]
------------

Post edited per OP's request

It is INDEED a r/d thing. - sm

[ In Reply To ..]
Did you not read the post about Roy Blunt? He is a republican, and he is responsible for inserting this Monsanto thing into a bill they were sending to President Obama.

Too bad they won't give Obama the line item veto, and giving up your right to sue certainly sounds like a republican tactic.

However, I don't think it's even constitutional to give up your right to sue BEFORE something happens. That is very much republican language, and if we didn't have a "political" Supreme Court, it would probably be struck down.

Yes, it's the republicans who did this to you. Their goal is to make the middle class disappear so that we have a nation of only the very, very poor and the richest of the rich.

It was also a republican that tried to stop payment for overtime from American employees. That idea had the stench of bringing back slavery (on economic grounds, not racial grounds).

The republicans chose to cut the poorest of the poor in their "sequester." That goes along with the "47%" remark that Mitt Romney let "slip."

Are you starting to see a pattern here?

No, of course you're not, but I see it very clearly.
----------- - -
[ In Reply To ..]
------------

Post edited per OP's request.
I hope Obama didn't sign it into law because - sm
[ In Reply To ..]
he thought it would be challenged by THIS Supreme Court.

It is UNCONSTITUTIONAL to force a citizen to give up their right to sue before something bad happens.

As far as r/d is concerned, I'm an equal opportunity offender. I posted a thread about the unconstitutionality of this and criticized Senator Mikulski (a Democrat). I also said she should be voted out of office.

Everything I posted in my original post is true. It is happening in this country under the republican regime.

Similar Messages:


This Is Enough To Scare The Crap Out Of AnyoneOct 30, 2010
A Startlingly Dangerous Letter from an Ex-Muslim I was born and raised as Muslim. My whole family is still Muslim. I know every genetic code of Muslim. I know Islamic brain. I live and breath with them. I am an insider. I left Islam when I understood that Islam is a sick and evil religion. Following are the Islamic message to the West.   You will be impressed when you meet a moderate Muslim personally. As your next-door neighbor, coworker, student, teacher, engineer, professionals you ...

This Should Scare You Folks. (sm)Aug 30, 2012
UN Human Rights Council adds a genocidal warlord.  Soon Obama will be King of the UN and in charge of the world.  You better start paying attention, Libs.  Now would be a good time. ...

This Should Scare Your Socks OffSep 25, 2012
Today in his UN address, Obama said, "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." ...

Kucinich Dem On Dem Digs Scare Off Both Sides.Jan 24, 2010
The largely ignored article below is worth a second pass.  Conservatives missed the opportunity to agree with critical points Kucinich made while taking his party to task.  Could it be his disarming way of taking all the hot air bluster out of claims that democrats never admit their mistakes or maybe it’s because they can’t admit that a progressive liberal can actually make good sense?  He is supporting allegations you guys have been driving home for months now on this ...

Don't Let The President's Threats Of Sequestration Scare YouFeb 21, 2013
I've looked at a few sources and the link I'm going to post spells it out better than anything else. The President has stated that health programs, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, veteran's and other public employees will all be hurt, but I truly think he's just trying to scare people because according to the below link, I really don't think it will happen. Maybe he's talking about years later down the line, but I'm sure Congress will find a way to change ...

Sebelius Out. Admission Of O'Scare Problems Forthcoming?Apr 11, 2014
It's about time for some answers on the unAffordable Health Care Act, the IRS scandal, the Benghazi tragedy and the Fast and Furious gun running sham. It seems this administration is really having some mounting problems on many fronts. ...

Ebola Scare Shuts Down Buildings At Southwestern College, Students Under QuarantineOct 16, 2014
I hope this proves to be untrue. ...