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How about vasectomies and tubal ligations? sm


Posted: Feb 19, 2012

Birth control pills are not the only means of contraception besides abstinence and rhythm. Will the next step be outlawing funds for voluntary sterilization?  

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None of this has been outlawed USA - can get abortions/BC at will for free at PP

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Can get abortions/BC at will for free at PP? - Not true, get a grip on reality. nm

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Get grip - Oh PLEEEZ, spare us all

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No services have been outlawed. You can get everything from BCP to abortions at PP. If you are not aware of what PP offers, call them and ask. No one is infringing on your FREE WILL to use those sevices.
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A friend sent me a picture with a group of very stiff-like elderly women. The caption was whether they would approve Viagra. That about sums it up for me.

Assuming you are referring to the fact that - hospitals and universities

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who are part of religious organizations not wanting to have to provide insurance coverage for birth control that goes against their belief. That is in no way outlawing birth control. The employees know this going in. Not sure if their insurance plans will pay for tubals and vasectomies as I'm not sure if you can get a special exclusion from the insurance company. I do know that a lot of these facilities do not provide these servies in their facility. I live near a major city with 4 large hospitals, 2 of which are faith-based, and unless recently changed, do not do tubals or vasectomies. So, if you want a tubal ligation or vasectomy, you go to one of the other hospitals, and if you want coverage for birth control as an employee, you also go to the other hospitals.

Republicans want to make this true for ANY employer coverage - Secular

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Planned Parenthood is NOT available everywhere. The conservative Republicans are trying to make any birth control extremely difficult to obtain. In rural areas, you might have to drive 100 miles or more to a Planned Parenthood. How many poor women can afford to take time off from work and drive that distance? I suspect the REAL Republican motive is a continued source of cheap labor. I have actually seen videos of Republicans discussing if it were not for birth control, they would not have to allow illegal immigration for cheap labor.

Post that link about hearing repubs talking about B/C pls - jh

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Cause your getting misinformation somewhere..We are not against birth control..We are against big government funding for birth conrtol,,And we are against out of control abortions..I dont think it is fair to use tax money for abortions or anything else that might go against an individual's beliefs...It is not my job to provide Jane schmuck a duck with pills, sorry the old you play you pay rule
You play and you pay living on the streets. - nm
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You asked for it you got it - enjoy link
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I normally would not take orders from you, but I would like you to review this.

Especially at 3:46 or so on the counter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFGit_tZDqs

Your welcome. When I get time, I will find a similar statement by your friend Karl Rove for you. Happy to do your bidding.
Gov't. funding IS needed for it because of what the - Repubs. have done to the economy,
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among other things. The poor often can't afford healthcare at all, let alone abortions. And look how many of the former Middle Class are now in the "poor" category.

I thank goodness I can no longer get pregnant. If I were young enough to still be fertile, and were working for what I make now, birth control would likely be out of my reach both financially and geographically.

I really have to question their thinking. Poor and illegal immigrant populations tend to have more kids than they can take care of. With less prenatal care, they have more problems with perinatal and postnatal problems.

Then our tax dollars (which people think we can't afford to spend on birth control or terminating unwanted pregnancies) then go for even more expensive things, such as NICU care for preemies and birth defects (which we pay for, since there usually is no health ins. involved here). And beyond that, it becomes welfare checks, more free healthcare, free school lunches, etc. With no free public universities, most won't get a college education. Too many get involved with crime, drugs, etc., many could end up incarcerated. Also expensive.

And yet aren't all these free aid programs the very things that Republicans are against? I guess it hasn't dawned on them that if there were just plain FEWER PEOPLE in the country, that might save them a few bucks of their precious billions.

But oh, wait. Then the poor Catholic priests would have their seemingly endless supply of "fresh meat" (i.e. kids) to molest. Heavens! We certainly wouldn't want to have unhappy and sexually-frustrated priests, now, would we?

And, as another poster said, with fewer poor people as a whole to exploit for slave-labor wages and sweatshop jobs to feed the Money Machine, the big corporations might actually have to pay U.S.-income-level wages! In the U.S., of all places! Terrible. Just terrible.

lets extend this solution to other social - issues

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Why should restaurants and rest facilities be integrated when there are several around the corner that are available for "them."

Pretty vulgar-offensive comment - and no connection to thread

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vulgar? - sm
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that's an odd choice of words. I find aspirin between the knees remarks vulgar. I see the posters' point -- the idea of denying any group of people (women or blacks) access to something because "it is available elsewhere" is faulty.

bet those facilities - pay for Viagra-nm

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Why should there be govt funds for this crap?? - jh

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Just curious why the government and my taxes fund anything..That is not what the tax system was invented for...Dang you people need to do some research on what the role of government is in OUR society, not the UKs..What happened to consequences for your actions..Maybe we should concentrate on getting jobs and getting people off welfate so they would be insured..The answer to our problems is not govt health care or government anything..The answer is to get government out of our lives..Im glad my kids are out of school cause I would home school..They are teaching kids sex at 10?? What the hell..These are MY kids and I will teach them social issues when I want and how I want..And mine were taught abstinence until you can afford to pay for any child you happen to create in the process..But they were also taught condoms in case they felt they couldnt wait..PP says they dont get funding for abortions from the govt, but they do they shuffle the paperwork on the other stuff they do..They do do a lot of good, keeping women healthy when they are down and out..I never agree with government funding for questionable things like abortion and being that a lot of this society uses abortion as birth control, I have a problem with that..

Denying women birth control via their medical...sm - VTMT

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insurance will only lead to more abortions. That is just common sense.

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