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Posted: Sep 26, 2012

Its not about school lunches or healthy kids. Its about one thing alone...control.

IF MO was so concerned about children being healthy she would meet with parents. She would help to give "suggestions" to parents, get more healthy guidelines out to parents. Hold conferences with parents. Have docs meet with parents. Parents, parents, parents.

Starving kids in school leads to poor performance and poor acadamic grades. It also means this...because the parents child will be starved throughout the day the parents are going to start feeding them enormous breakfasts and dinners. Because a reasonable lunch plan has not been made you will see obesity in children go up, because they will start binge eating, hiding food in their pockets and chowing down while hiding in a bathroom stall.

So what's next, is she going to invade all your homes and demand to know what you are feeding them out of school, or have the child report in with what they've eaten the previous day.

If she was so concerned about overweight children there is antoher way to go about it. Starving a child is not the way. Start a fat camp, start a fitness craze, not punish them by starving them. When kids are hungry and their stomachs are growing math and science is the farthest thing from their mind. Where to get the next Twinkie is.

So, they'll starve through the day, binge eat in the morning and evenings. most likely have a higher drop out rate and grades going down. All because of control.

Can't conrol the parents, so instead go after the children. All I'm saying is its so obvious to me that if she was truly concerned with the rate of obesity in children then she would be talking with the parents and getting the parents to put their children on a healthier eating plan. Giving them some options. Discounts to health centers, join an exercise club, coupons for healthier meals. Teach the parents good nutirition and excersie and let them decide how to raise their children. Besides, just because 10 year old Sally who weighs 75 pounds can be full eating a carrot stick doesn't mean that 175 pount 17 year old Brutus will be full on that same carrot stick.

I grew up eating healthy. Not a lot of sweets in our home. I weight normal weight. Sis was always overweight, but she did not eat a lot. Being overweight is not always realted to over eating.

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You are absolutely right..sm - JTBB

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We should do like we've been doing so we can raise our nation's mortality rate even higher. Nothing like being first. We should condemn our kids to a lifestyle of unhealthy eating habits, early hypertension, childhood diabetes, and bariatric surgery at 18 just so they can walk to the mailbox and back without passing out. Nothing like getting those insurance rates up.

FYI: She did start a fitness craze, and the reason for not approaching parents is evidenced in your post.

Then food stamps should have tighter controls, too. - SK1

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I'm always amazed at what "foods" are allowed to be purchased with food stamps.

agree! - sm

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food stamps enable families to buy into the corporate food chain in the form of edible products that are not foods. This has always been mind-boggling to me.

Question - boostraps

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What is the corporate food chain?

And are non-edible products things like toilet paper and cleaning products?

hi bootstraps - sm...

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I appreciate your questions. By the corporate food chain, I am referring to the huge food-industry conglomerates who benefit from government reimbursement while providing little in the way of healthy, nutritious food.

My reference to "edible products that are not foods" would include products like Kraft American Cheese singles, or the plethora of empty-calorie breakfast cereals full of chemicals and sugar, for which food stamps can be used and from which large food conglomerates profit.

I am not against food stamps in any way. I am against corporate food-ism in the form of low-nutrition, high-profit, preprepared edible products.

ah, okay - bootstraps

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Thanks for your reply.

I agree completely, just have never heard it put that way! I was thinking a little more literal.

Another unfortunate thing is, it seems, to me anyhow, that it is a lot more expensive to eat healthy than not, and those foodstamp dollars probably can be stretched a little further on inexpensive, empty-calorie prepackaged things rather than whole food, fruit, vegetables, etc. I could be wrong about that, just my personal experience when I've shopped healthy versus not.

Thanks again for your response.

I also agree....sm - JTBB

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Parents are obviously not making healthy choices, so in the cases where those choices are govt subsidized, yes, tighter controls are in order.

Wasn't this more about the stranglehold the - corporations who provide SM

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school lunches have on our kids? Provide the cheapest, unhealthiest food for school lunches to increase profit? I think she accomplished an amazing thing changing the menus. I think most parents in this country realize what is healthy food and what is not. It isn't like it used to be, most parents have to work, sometimes 2 jobs. No time for home cooking unless you are a really good time manager. It is also cheaper to buy crap food. In any case and for whatever reason, the kids at least have a chance to have 1 healthy meal in their day. Do you really think parents are so dumb that they need a meeting with MO in order to understand healthy eating? Come on. If I had kids in school, I would be appreciative of the healthy choices available. This idea of "starving" kids is ludicrous.

Excellent, SM. I so agree with good food for our children. - NM

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it's not about control - ctmt

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It's about providing wholesome foods for school children instead of crap. This initiative is directed at school systems, not children. It's incongruous to me that you would advocate entitlements such as discounts to health centers and coupons for healthier meals instead of using our community dollars wisely. No one is forced to buy school lunch. I never did.

We are fat, getting fatter - sm

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*If Americans stay on this path, 83 percent of men will be overweight or obese by 2020. Women are right behind them, with 72 percent projected to be overweight or obese by then.* (See complete article at link.

So, I am a little older now. I can see that my generation is a bit larger than my parent's generation, both taller and weigh more. Most of my aunts and uncles/parents have lived relatively healthily into their 80s and 90s. My brothers and sisters? 2 have had stokes, 2 have diabetes, 5 have hypertension, probably about the same with hyperlipidemia. I have already lost counsins to stroke and heart disease. I would say most of us did not really develop weight problems until our 30s.

Here is what scares me. When I look at so many of the elementary age kids and teens, they are already showing signs obesity and weight/diet-related disease.

Here's the deal. I want today's kids to have an opportunity to enjoy a long healthy life. They need every chance they can get and that includes in school.

I agree, but that's not what I was talking about - The Sarge -nm

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nm

Controlling my opinion? Here is more - sm

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I disagree that it is about control. You say kids will starve. Kids have always hated school lunches. Most kids will eat the marshmallows rather than an apple. That is the nature of kids. They do not have that cause/effect development. If kids are offered good choices, they will make the choice. They can choose an apple instead of a banana. They will learn to like lower fat food with less artificial sweetening. Kids are used to hollering and getting their way. Do you let a kid decide if they will take their insulin shot or not? If you do, child services would be involved in a flash.

How anyone can be against nutrition education (by practice) and eating good food is beyond me.

How about controlling what is PUT INTO our food.... - anon19

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instead of controlling the food itself? It is MY belief that all of the hormones, preservatives, pesticides etc that are ALLOWED to be put into our food is what is making us all unhealthy and FAT, not the food itself. Generally people ARE making better food choices on their own because of the diseases and obesity that has overrun our country. One poster stated that not ALL obesity comes from over-eating, and that is true. Some people truly have thyroid problems and that controls their body's metabolism. It is not so much how much they eat or what they eat, it is about how their own body's deliver the food to their systems. If the food is "tainted" with hormones and preservatives, the "choice" is automatically taken away from them. Chicken, cows, and even milk has hormones in it to help the animals "grow" quicker and faster so they can be slaughtered and offered to the public as "food." Those hormones just don't go away when the animal is dead....we are eating those hormones as much as they are being "force fed" to the animals. Milk is a byproduct of cows, and hence again, we are drinking those hormones. THAT is the true reason for obesity! Growth hormones affect us too. If it makes cows and chickens grow faster and fatter, it does us too! Stop the hormones. Stop the preservatives, and in 30 years, we will be a less obese nation!

If this were Ann Romney's - idea

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you'd be on it like white on rice. Come on!!!

Those so disapproving, are you against all First Ladies using their - position to promote good, or just this one?NM

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Of course it is. Same as "health" care - or lack thereof.(sm) - Aunt Sue

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It's about government controlling all aspects of our lives, step by step, inch by inch. Pretty soon you don't even realize that you don't have a say about anything anymore. It's insidious, this Communism stuff, kind of creeps up on you. The kids are throwing their "free" lunches in the trash, which cost more, by the way, and eating like hogs when they get home. Anybody know that Michelle's kids were eating pepperoni pizza this week at their schools? It's just about control, plain and simple. There are better ways to go about it, if that was the real goal. Kind of like the "health" care. Don't pass the law behind closed doors by twisting arms, bribing, etc. etc. Get some ideas from people. He didn't really want that though. All he did was dress up a bunch of guys in white coats for a photo OP and said doctors liked it. They hate it, but he doesn't care. You have been duped. I guess he figures you're enjoying it, cause he keeps doing it.

It seems clear to... - ...anyone who has...

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...their eyes open that the protestations over Michelle Obama's initiative are simply because of who she is, not the message. Did you who are against this also protest just as much when Government insisted on warning smokers about the dangers to their health, requiring the warning labels on cigarettes? I don't remember ever hearing shouts of: "Government is trying to control people's lives; people are smart enough to make the decision about what to put in their bodies!"

True, there is no law against smoking (in certain places, at least) directed toward adults; but there ARE laws about selling cigarettes to children. Children won't make all the best/healthiest choices on their own. No one can completely keep children from getting their hands on cigarettes--otherwise, we wouldn't have adult smokers who started as minors (but wish they never had); but it's irresponsible not to at least do what we CAN to keep them away from cigarettes and away from a diet that could eventually kill them, too.

I think the people who object to M.O.'s healthy foods initiative are fighting a losing battle on this one. Yes, we adults are beginning to demand better, healthier food choices, so that's beginning to lead the market. But if we don't make changes in what's being given to school kids, I can almost guarantee that they will always choose the junk food. They may eventually make better choices once they become adults, like we have; but in the meantime, there is too much lasting damage being done if they continue to grow up on today's sugar-filled, processed foods.

This is the single-most confusing thing to me - sm

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Like other posters, I just.do.not.get why anyone has a problem with this platform. Nobody disagrees that we have a problem with obesity in the US. Nobody would choose to have their kids eat the ridiculous things that are served in school cafeterias if better choices were available.

Who's against healthier kids? Who's against better choices? Being opposed to this platform just seems obtuse to me.

It's because they're programmed to believe that - sm

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anything Michelle and/or Barack say is EVIL, BAD, etc.

It's a reflex action, it seems.

it's particularly strange... - ctmt

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coming from the right, whose rhetoric is strong when it comes to entitlements versus self-reliance.

For crying out loud, if the offerings are not to your kids' liking, make sure they have a good breakfast. Pack their lunch. Rely on yourself.

This isn't about starving our kids. This is about using our tax dollars to replace fast foods with wholesome foods, and processed foods with fresh ones.

We pay for our schools. They are part of the public trust, and aas such should not be playing a role in institutionalizing a poor eating culture.

Starving? - RC

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The kids aren't starving! LMAO.

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