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Exclusive: "Hillary Clinton Took Me Through Hell'

Posted: Jun 20, 2014

This is also being reported on ABC News and Fox News as well as others. Things are not looking good for Hillary on many fronts. This particular story should bother every woman.;

When Hillary Clinton was 6, she pulled a classmate's hair. - sm

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This is not a new story. Hillary was a successful defense lawyer at 27 years of age, but next they'll be telling us she has never accomplished anything except being the president's wife. When will these people learn that their own stupid spin contradicts their other stupid spin?

Cue the Vince Foster conspiracy theory right-wing nuts. These people are frightened to death of Hillary!

so she kept growing from a child bully into an adult one - no, nothing new there

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Hillary was fired from a law firm during Watergate.

Oh she accomplished things alright, just not anything that would be good for the country.

Here's another hint - if you want to be the leader of the country, you should actually act like you care about another American's life.

VF is not a "conspiracy theory right-wing nuts". In fact, "these people" welcome more discussion about what really happened. Bring it on!

Problem is..... - sm

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This is all OLD news. Most people don't care what the right-wing echo chamber is all puffed up about on a day-to-day basis. Not too many people are outraged by the right-wing spin machine because there's a scandal every day. The only people all worked up about it is the vocal minority, and the majority of people tuned it out long, long ago and couldn't care less.

The Democrat has my vote no matter who it is, and there's nothing that will change it after the way the Republicans have conducted themselves over the last 6 years..... absolutely nothing.

See below re Intelligence Factor. - You've proved my point.

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LOL

This is who I am. Nobody said you had to like it. - sm

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Nobody should overestimate another's level of concern with their opinion or point of view.

After years of their waging a daily campaign of smear and fear, I am completely convinced the right wing has nothing to offer but intolerance. Always telling me who I should be against, what I should fight, what I should fear, who should be "less than" or shut out or shunned.

IMO, they've become the party of division and exclusion, and I'll just never be one of them.

You can keep writing the word "right-wing" if it makes you feel better - sm

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That term means nothing, except to haters. I'd rather be a right wing rather than a communist. Besides, it is really a non-word. Wing is what is on a bird or a plane. They have a left and a right one. They can't fly in the right direction if one is missing. There is no such things as wings in politics, except for the wings in the WH.

Nobody is asking you to change your position. If you want to vote communist go for it. I will never ever vote for that party no matter what with their conduct and what they have done to the people of this country. So nothing you can say will change my vote either.

Wow! You should educate yourself on the term right wing. - sm

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You said: "That term means nothing, except to haters. I'd rather be a right wing rather than a communist. Besides, it is really a non-word. Wing is what is on a bird or a plane. They have a left and a right one. They can't fly in the right direction if one is missing. There is no such things as wings in politics, except for the wings in the WH."

Right wing is not an insult.

http://www.rightwingnews.com/
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/right%20wing

Conservatives are often referred to as right wing. Conservatives refer to themselves as right wing, and there are a few examples posted here. I'm sure they don't hate themselves. It's not a non-word, you are just simply apparently uninformed.

Democrats and communists are two different parties, regardless of what you've been told. I'll never vote communist either, so we do have something in common.

The left wing doesn't need your vote, but the right-wing minority needs as many as it can get. Thus, the relentless bashing of left-wing candidates.

Wow - and you should educate yourself in the terms - I stand by my post

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Love your copy and paste skills. It astounds me how much talent people have.

Right-winger is an insult when its being thrown around as one.

The platform of the democrat party is the same as the CPUSA.

Your last paragraph is wrong.

It's the democrat party that needs as many votes as they can get. The republican party is doing just fine as you can see in the elections and polls being held. This is why there is the relenting trashing-n-bashing of conservative candidates. Now that is something you need to educate yourself in too.

The left wing doesn't generally delude itself, but fine with me. - sm

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Have it your way! Then by your own definition:
- Right wing is an insult used by "haters."
- Right wing is a non-word term that means "nothing."
- "There is no such things as wings in politics, except for the wings in the WH."

Those definitions of yours go a long way in explaining why there will be no right wing in the White House for a very long time until the party takes a long hard look at itself and makes some much-needed changes. There's really no reason to trash right-wing candidates when they're doing such a great job of it themselves.

The party of exclusion needs no one, and that's exactly what they'll most likely get.

Um, yes they do - nm

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nm cos nm is needed.

And don't forget - suppress the vote

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They have to try every dirty trick in the book so that those predisposed to voting for Democrats are unable to vote.

That is by far the most disgusting thing they do in my book.

Why don't they ask themselves why Hispanics, young people, the few old people who do not watch Fox News, and African Americans do not want to vote for them and maybe try to appeal to them, rather than do your best to try to cut anyone not voting for your guy out of the voting process.

Absolutely disgusting and they have those 5 right leaning jerks in the Supreme Court to thank for that as well.

If a Republican gets into the white house, buh-bye anything resembling a democracy (we have already lost so much with Citizens United and the dismantling of the Voting Rights ACt), the Koch Brothers will be our rulers. Hope all you right wingers are happy with that.

But I guess making abortion illegal and stopping any kind of immigration at all and making sure Uncle Sugar don't give out free birth control to all us sluts is more important than saving the middle class.

The right wing is like an American Taliban. - Theyll do or say anything to stay in power.

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nm

Do you mean like... - sm

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...trying to prevent illegals from voting? I'm glad someone is attempting to uphold The Constitution.

Can you tell me how many illegals - are voting?

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Even George W did a "crackdown" (see link below from 2007) on "voter fraud" that ended up proving there was virtually none. I am trying to imagine the stupidity of an illegal person voting.

They must be really dumb if they try, because from my knowledge of illegal workers they would not dare risk their jobs to try to do something they know is illegal and easily found out, and from my knowledge of the voting process it would take about 5 seconds for those marking the names off to tell them to take a hike.

Try googling - sm

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"illegal voting"

There are more recent articles than yours dated April 2007.

Okay I did and surprised to find this - article, but oh wait

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Yes, this guy (Dave Weigel) is someone who usually writes reputable articles, and even though the title implies voter fraud, what he actually found belies what the Republicans were trying to find.

I will not read Fox News because they sued to get the right to lie to their readers/watchers, so why would you trust that? Those other rags are full of baloney too, IMHO.

The truth is:

"...there remain many, many more votes lost because of flawed ballots or attrition from long lines than votes canceled out out by the confirmed ballot of a noncitizen. And a great deal of legal work has come up dry in the hunt for the mythical 'buses of illegal voters' being spirited in from cities or campuses to stuff the polls.

But if you just read Fox, you've learned that the voter fraud problem is very real."

Do not broaden horizons. - SM

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Read whatever you would like as long as it agrees with what you want to believe. LOL.

Not if they are liberal Democrats-- they think she walks on water like Obama does - n/m

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n/m

No one thinks Obama or Hillary walk on water. - sm

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Do you have any new lines of attack? That walking on water one is really old and really lame.

Besides, no one is comparing either of them to Jesus except conservatives.

Except them... - SM

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ROFL!!!!!

It is my opinion that this is a tiresome and foolish meme. - nm

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and Mitt Romney was a bully - Rita

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The point is that when Mitt Romney was running for president, it was front page news and covered in all the media that he supposedly was a "bully" in high school. The news media felt it was important enough to cover to add to the many things they could find wrong with Romney to make him totally unsuitable to be president of the United States and the people bought it - hook, line and sinker - and look where it got us - the news media created this president - don't let them create the next one for you......

So the news media should just say nice things about potential presidential candidates? - Yeah, that'll happen.

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Most people are smart enough to make their own decisions. Stop underestimating people.

Mitt lost because the majority of folks wanted to give Obama four more years.

Poor Mitt got accused of being a bully. Imagine if they had accused him of.... - sm

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- Being a secret Muslim.
- Bringing 100 million Muslims to America.
- Aiding the mujahideen.
- Being in the pocket of the Muslim Brotherhood.
- Marrying a Pakistani guy, his roomate.
- Having a ring with a Koranic verse on it.
- Being funded by a Saudi prince.
- Being born in Kenya.
- Losing his US citizenship.
- Being a racist.
- Being a Black Panther.
- Being the son of Malcolm X.
- Being the son of Frank Marshall Davis.
- Having communist parents.
- Having a book ghostwritten by Bill Ayers.
- Training to overthrow the government.
- Refusing to say the Pledge of Allegiance.
- Causing the BP oil spill.
- Causing Hurricane Sandy.
- Being a brainwashing hypnotist.

and drumroll.........................

- Being the Antichrist.

Wow. Poor Mitt. It's a good thing they didn't call Obama a bully 'cause that would have sunk him for sure!

You mean he ISN'T any of those things? - GS

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LOL

The difference is Mitt was actually a candidate - Hillary is not declared yet

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The republicans are getting ahead of themselves for someone who isn't even a candidate yet.

I'll laugh my patootie off if she decides not to run and they've expended so many resources on her.

I hope she does run. I think she'd be fabulous.

She's toast. - Next...

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Let's see what else ya got. :-D

Yeah, the conservatives have convinced me that.... - sm

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They're not the least bit worried about Hillary. Right!

I'll believe they're not worried about Hillary when they stop all the posts and incessant daily whining about.... Hillary! They seem totally not worried to me! Kind of like they were totally not worried about "BO".

She hasn't even announced, and they're terrified.

Remember Bridgegate? - SM

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A lot of libs got their knickers in a twist, all excited thinking that Christie was toast. He certainly doesn't look like toast to me.

He actually is toast in terms of - sm

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being elected to any higher office. If you don't think so, it must be because you're watching and listening to what Christie is saying and doing and not the goings-on of those who actually have the power to decide whether or not he'll be on the slate. No one gets themselves elected, and Christie simply no longer has the support needed to go any further. NJ is a small town, and we who live here eventually hear about what goes down in the back room conversations. He may swagger across the stage to Jimmy Fallon's couch acting like he has the world on a string, but even Christie's incredible hubris and self-delusion won't be persuasive enough to untie the pursestrings of the people who actually have the money to put him on a national ballot. Maybe the reason he's acting like the cat that swallowed the canary is because he's looking forward to being appointed to a nice cushy position at the Port Authority?

I thought it was a state. - NM

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NM

He's in the midst of a federal criminal investigation. - sm

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And the things he's accused of are business as usual in the republican party -- particularly if it hurts Democrats in any way -- and he showed that he would make millions of commuters suffer for a petty difference with a Democrat.

That's how Republicans operate. They will injure millions in their pursuit to practice partisan politics with only ONE person.

Perspective - Whatever

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That this story appeared on Fox speaks volumes. It happened 40 years ago and was Hillary's first criminal case; doesn't it seem strange that the woman waited this long to come forward? It's sad that people need to spend their time trying to discredit others. I admire Hillary for a number of reasons but I do have misgivings about her being President, namely her health and her age. However, she has not said that she will run, so don't get too riled up over a silly news story; I'm sure the "victim" was paid well for spilling the beans, she might even get a book deal.

More Perspective - sm

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The conservatives have some kind of scandal every day that they're whining about. Every. Single. Day.

So.... If everything is a scandal, then nothing is a scandal.

Intelligence Factor - sm

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Even the lamestream and left wingnut propaganda media machines are reporting on these "faux" scandals. WAKE UP!! "The Art of Sweeping Things Under the Rug and Creating a Masterful Diversion." That will probably be the title of BO's memoirs.

Reaction from some posts above... - sm

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...is exactly why a number of rape victims never come forward. Shame on ALL of you. I pray you are never a victim of sexual assault.

Well - Whatever

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You have to admit that the timing is a little suspect. She came forward for the first time during the 2008 campaign and again in 2014, doesn't that tell you anything? I would question her credibility as well as her motive. This is really pragmatic, but Hillary did what she was being paid to do, she helped her client avoid jail time. You ought to know that it is very difficult to prove rape in our legal system. I'm not defending anyone, but there are generally many sides to a story and we are only hearing one of them.

I completely agree... - sm

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...that everyone is entitled to a defense attorney and a fair trial. However, did you read the article? It made my blood run cold when I heard about her laughing regarding the lie detector test. And how convenient indeed that the tapes were pulled from public ears when this story broke. Come on, we all know the Clintons have a lot of pull. As far as the rape victim coming forward, for her to come forward in 2003 or 2005 or at ANY OTHER TIME would have meant absolutely nothing. She has nothing to gain except to make herself relive the pain. Her motive, IMHO, is to inform America of this woman, Hillary Clinton, and her cold, calculating personality, etc., etc., etc.

Nice try, though. - sm

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It's an old story that broke years ago. She did come forward before.

"My blood ran cold." LOL "She has nothing to gain."

What do Republicans have to gain with this old line of attack, and whose blood are you really concerned about? You're less concerned about the rape victim and more concerned about your political fortunes.

Like I said previously... - SM

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Shame on ALL of you. I pray you are never a victim of sexual assault. Karma!

Do you find shame.... - sm

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in faux outrage and politicizing rape for political gain?

Who are you to sit in judgment of "ALL" of us or any of us?

Why don't you just call me a racist? - sm

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It boils down to the same thing. If you don't like what a conservative has to say, you claim there is politicization of this or that. Insert a different subject matter and it would be an accusation of racism or sexism or whatever "ism" you can find to justify your behavior or desire. I don't sit in judgment of you or anyone. It's more of an announcement. Only God will do the judgment. You do still have time to change your ways. Karma! Bye.

Easy answer. - sm

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You asked: "Why don't you just call me a racist?"

The easy answer is: I didn't. You're twisting my words. I did not call you anything; I simply asked you some questions about shame and judgment. I don't see a connection with the subject of rape and race, and I'm not sure how exactly you see a connection there unless you twist my simple questions into something I never said. :)

You said: "Shame on ALL of you," so I'm not quite sure how you figure you're not sitting in judgment of me or anyone when you're actually sitting in judgment of me and everyone and admonishing that there is still time to change our ways or face "karma." Quite frankly I'm puzzled by your fascination with the repetitive posting of the term "karma" when that is a belief of Hinduism and Buddhism and is the principle of retributive justice of those religions and not any tenet of Christianity or of God.

So could you kindly leave the karma to Krishna and the many gods of Hinduism and to Buddha and Brahma, and if "only God will do the judgment," perhaps you could please leave that to Him as well?

Since when - sm

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is a rambling, circuitous monologue an "easy answer"? You missed the point, but that was probably your intent (diversion). Adios.

Quite the contrary: The point was doubled down on and not easily missed. - sm

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Your point was to label everybody who didn't agree with your view of Hillary Clinton and this hot button issue when you doubled down saying: "Like I said previously shame on ALL of you. I pray you are never a victim of sexual assault. Karma!" And all the while you insisted that you were judging no one and suggested again: "Karma!"

I asked you: ".... if 'only God will do the judgment,' perhaps you could please leave that to Him as well?"

So I'm taking your judgmental response as a "No" then.

I cannot speak for everyone, but speaking for myself, I will not be shamed into agreeing with your partisan assessment to score political points against your hypothetical opponent who hasn't even announced she's running for office yet!

I agree with you. - SM

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Some of these people will blindly follow HC just like they have with BO. I also hope they never have to deal with a sexual crime, especially on a 12-year-old. Seriously, just ignore FT's ramblings. They only mean something to her.

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I don't agree with you, and you can save the phony concern, please. - sm

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First you accuse anyone who is a Democrat of being a blind follower of "BO" and "HC," and then you feign concern that you hope we never have to deal with a "sexual crime." And please, really? You are acting as if Hillary Clinton raped this child when she merely defended the jerk that did. The Sixth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America grants an accused the right to an attorney for his defense. As an attorney and officer of the court, she had a legal and ethical obligation to defend the jerk to the fullest extent of the law. For her to act otherwise would have constituted a breach of her professional responsibilities.

So 10 years later discussing the case, she said: "He took a lie detector test. I had him take a polygraph, which he passed, which forever destroyed my faith in polygraphs" and she chuckles. Clearly she was laughing about the fact that she learned as a young lawyer that a lie detector cannot be trusted to detect lies because she believed her client was guilty. Does anyone truly believe Hillary thinks rape is something to laugh at? If you do, you are deluding yourselves. She wasn't laughing about the rape; she was laughing about how easy it was for a liar to pass a polygraph.

So please stop the feigned outrage and the same old tired narrative that we're all just stupid and blindly following "BO" and "HC." Nobody is blindly following anybody, quite the opposite actually, and calling people who don't agree with your twisted attempt to gain a political advantage over Hillary Clinton (who has not even announced her candidacy) and then feigning concern and "hope they never have to deal with a sexual crime" is bordering on the absurd.

Thank you. - OP

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I know that we are a minority on this board, but that doesn't stop me from having hope based on posts like yours and others. I've learned to stop replying to those appearing as if they're trolls with all their self-important left wing propaganda. I feel sorry for the one who responded to you. She or he appears very angry and unhappy with life. I suppose we can only hope we're wrong on that front.

P.S. Please take note that I will not be responding to any negative replies to my post. Thank you.

Your post IS a negative reply. - sm

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You won't be responding to negative replies?! LOL. I'm not sure who this is trying to fool, nor will I even try to speculate, but that post IS a negative reply, no matter how it's cleverly worded to seem otherwise, a post where another poster is berated who doesn't agree with your political ideology and assessment of Hillary Clinton, called a troll and then further judged from a moral high horse and psychoanalyzed, again containing phony concern for someone just berated, accused, and then given a psychiatric diagnosis of self importance and unhappiness!

BUT... "P.S. Please take note" that you "will not be responding to any negative replies."

Just FYI: Your post is an excellent representation of exactly what is the problem with the conservative movement, that being the labeling of people who don't agree with them as somehow flawed, the utter ease with which people are lumped into categories and summarily dismissed, the sitting on the moral high horse in judgment of people whom they readily proclaim are "less than" rather than equal, and the complete unwillingness to engage in discussion, all done to others while feigning concern for their welfare.

P.S. That's actually why they're the minority. Think about it.

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