A community of 30,000 US Transcriptionist serving Medical Transcription Industry

Celebrities Fooled, Used


Posted: Mar 5, 2013

The scene: a Manhattan art-house theater. The cause: a campaign against the gas drilling process known as fracking that's being led by more than 100 celebrities, including Yoko Ono, Sean Lennon, Robert Redford, Mark Ruffalo and Mario Batali. Outside, demonstrators in hazmat suits circle the theater. Inside, actress Scarlett Johansson attends a benefit screening of "Gasland," the documentary film that has become the movement's manifesto. Johansson tells The Associated Press that her "Avengers" co-star Ruffalo introduced her to the cause, and that she found the film "incredibly shocking." The campaign has galvanized hundreds of thousands of followers, but as with many activist causes, the facts can get drowned out by the glitz. Now, some experts are asking whether the celebrities are enlightened advocates or NIMBYs — crying "Not in my backyard!" — even as their privileged lives remain entwined, however ruefully, with fossil fuels. Much of the anti-fracking activism is centered in New York City, where concerts, movies and plays use huge amounts of energy, gourmet chefs including Batali cook with gas, and most people — the glitterati included — heat with gas. There's no doubt that critics of hydraulic fracturing — a practice colloquially known as fracking that involves injecting water, sand and chemicals into underground rock to free vast reserves of gas — have some legitimate concerns. There have been documented cases of leaking gas ruining nearby well water, of air pollution and of problems from the waste the drilling generates. Experts say those are important parts of the story — but far from the whole story. "With proper regulation and enforcement, gas provides a very substantial health benefit in reducing air pollution," compared with coal-fired power plants, said Daniel Schrag, director of Harvard University's Center for the Environment. That is a theme not adequately covered in the debate over fracking, agreed Michael Greenstone, an environmental economics professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a former top adviser to the Obama administration. Greenstone is studying the local health effects of fracking, but he said it's not scientifically accurate to ignore "the tremendous health gains" from the coal-to-gas shift. "Honestly," he said, "the environmentalists need to hear it." Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/03/05/are-celebrity-fractivists-overlooking-science-in-their-condemnation-fracking/?intcmp=features#ixzz2MhqlR26B;

If there was an anti-Pulitzer prize, surely Fox would be the first to receive it. - SM

[ In Reply To ..]







Not all it's "fracked" up to be, bwah ha. - Thanks for the video

[ In Reply To ..]
I hardly watch videos posted here, but I did watch that one and I'm glad I did.

Source of your video? - sm

[ In Reply To ..]
And, did you read the article?

Just follow the video to you tube. - nm

[ In Reply To ..]
.
People believe what they want to believe - .
[ In Reply To ..]
and can find "proof" anywhere to substantiate it.
that's for sure - doe
[ In Reply To ..]

Added link. Thought all knew clicking on right lower corner of video takes directly to YouTube. - SM

[ In Reply To ..]

The source of that one is obviously a science channel. http://www.youtube.com/user/scishow


Yes, I read the article and don't understand the point.  Down below in the wealth inequality video thread, we have an RW poster apparently in favor of the idea that celebrities should make as much money as possible.  Here, we have the opposite, shaming celebrities on the basis of their more luxurious lifestyles, which presumably result in a larger carbon footprint.  Do RW celebrities supposedly have a smaller carbon footprint than LW ones?  


Nobody's being "used" or "fooled."  Mark Ruffalo, in particular, is about as knowledgeable as any non-scientist layperson can be about fracking.  


 








Leftist propaganda - nothing to see here, folks.

[ In Reply To ..]
.

Bet if it was in your backyard, it wouldn't be "propaganda." - SM

[ In Reply To ..]

From the documentary mentioned in the OP, "Gasland."  Some obvious real leftists here...


 








And here's the trailer... - SM
[ In Reply To ..]

 


As someone commented on the other Youtube video - Truthhurts
[ In Reply To ..]
Fracking is done at 5000 feet or more. Wells are shallow. No way this guy's water could be contaminated by fracking.

Also in the trailer video someone else posted (you?), it stated Congress passed a bill exempting gas companies from environmental regulations. Not true. I looked through all of 2005 bills and laws and didn't find a single one where the gas companies were exempted.

If you can show that they were exempted from environmental regulations, I would appreciate the bill number to look up.

Thanks
geology - doe
[ In Reply To ..]
It is incorrect to say there is "no way" water could be contaminated by fracking.

The fact that wells are shallow has nothing to do with the geological relationship that exists between rock, groundwater, and aquifers.
PUBLIC LAW 109–58 AUG. 8, 2005 - doe
[ In Reply To ..]
Please see page 102:

SEC. 322. HYDRAULIC FRACTURING.
Paragraph (1) of section 1421(d) of the Safe Drinking Water Act (42 U.S.C. 300h(d)) is AMENDED to read as follows:

(1) UNDERGROUND INJECTION. The term ‘underground injection’
(A) means the subsurface emplacement of fluids by well injection; and

(B) EXCLUDES—
(i) the underground injection of natural gas for purposes of storage; and
(ii) the underground injection of fluids or propping agents (other than diesel fuels) pursuant to hydraulic
fracturing operations related to oil, gas, or geothermal production activities.
Ouch! Thanks, doe. - SM
[ In Reply To ..]
I find the above poster's moniker the most ironic on this whole board (especially considering the track record), even more so than Fanatical Hypocrite's. ;)
it's interesting to note... - doe
[ In Reply To ..]
the exclusion is known as the "Halliburton loophole". ;)
I did not know that. Interesting. Thanks again. - SM
[ In Reply To ..]
EDITORIAL

The Halliburton Loophole



 


Published: November 2, 2009


Among the many dubious provisions in the 2005 energy bill was one dubbed the Halliburton loophole, which was inserted at the behest of — you guessed it — then-Vice President Dick Cheney, a former chief executive of Halliburton.





Related


Times Topics: Oil and Gasoline






It stripped the Environmental Protection Agency of its authority to regulate a drilling process called hydraulic fracturing. Invented by Halliburton in the 1940s, it involves injecting a mixture of water, sand and chemicals, some of them toxic, into underground rock formations to blast them open and release natural gas.


Hydraulic fracturing has been implicated in a growing number of water pollution cases across the country. It has become especially controversial in New York, where regulators are eager to clear the way for drilling in the New York City watershed, potentially imperiling the city’s water supply. Thankfully, the main company involved has now decided not to go ahead.


The safety of the nation’s water supply should not have to rely on luck or the public relations talents of the oil and gas industry. Thanks in part to two New Yorkers — Representative Maurice Hinchey and Senator Charles Schumer — Congress last week approved a bill that asks the E.P.A. to conduct a new study on the risks of hydraulic fracturing. An agency study in 2004 whitewashed the industry and was dismissed by experts as superficial and politically motivated. This time Congress is demanding “a transparent, peer-reviewed process.”


An even more important bill is waiting in the wings. Cumbersomely named the Fracturing Responsibility and Awareness of Chemicals Act, it would close the loophole and restore the E.P.A.’s rightful authority to regulate hydraulic fracturing. It would also require the oil and gas industry to disclose the chemicals they use.


The industry argues that the chemicals are proprietary secrets and that disclosing them would hurt their competitiveness. It also argues that the process is basically safe and that regulating it would deter domestic production. But if hydraulic fracturing is as safe as the industry says it is, why should it fear regulation?


Crazy, huh?! - doe (nm)
[ In Reply To ..]
Yes way. - SM
[ In Reply To ..]
DRILLING DOWN

A Tainted Water Well, and Concern There May Be More



 





For decades, oil and gas industry executives as well as regulators have maintained that a drilling technique known as hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, that is used for most natural gas wells has never contaminated underground drinking water.






Jim Wilson/The New York Times

Carla Greathouse is the author of a report that documents a case of drinking water contamination from fracking.





Multimedia







Drilling Down


Contamination Worries


Articles in this series examine the risks of natural gas drilling and efforts to regulate this rapidly growing industry.


Complete Series »





Related





Stephen Crowley/The New York Times

Rex W. Tillerson, the chief executive of ExxonMobil, has said that there are no reported cases of a freshwater aquifer having ever been contaminated from hydraulic fracturing.





Philip Scott Andrews/The New York Times

Dan Derkicks is an E.P.A. veteran who oversaw research for a report that documents a case of contamination from fracking





Readers’ Comments



Readers shared their thoughts on this article.





The claim is based in part on a simple fact: fracking, in which water and toxic chemicals are injected at high pressure into the ground to break up rocks and release the gas trapped there, occurs thousands of feet below drinking-water aquifers. Because of that distance, the drilling chemicals pose no risk, industry officials have argued.


“There have been over a million wells hydraulically fractured in the history of the industry, and there is not one, not one, reported case of a freshwater aquifer having ever been contaminated from hydraulic fracturing. Not one,” Rex W. Tillerson, the chief executive of ExxonMobil, said last year at a Congressional hearing on drilling.


It is a refrain that not only drilling proponents, but also state and federal lawmakers, even past and presentEnvironmental Protection Agency directors, have repeated often.


But there is in fact a documented case, and the E.P.A. report that discussed it suggests there may be more. Researchers, however, were unable to investigate many suspected cases because their details were sealed from the public when energy companies settled lawsuits with landowners.


Current and former E.P.A. officials say this practice continues to prevent them from fully assessing the risks of certain types of gas drilling.


“I still don’t understand why industry should be allowed to hide problems when public safety is at stake,” said Carla Greathouse, the author of the E.P.A. report that documents a case of drinking water contamination from fracking. “If it’s so safe, let the public review all the cases.”


Eric Wohlschlegel, a spokesman for the American Petroleum Institute, dismissed the assertion that sealed settlements have hidden problems with gas drilling, and he added that countless academic, federal and state investigators conducted extensive research on groundwater contamination issues, and have found that drinking water contamination from fracking is highly improbable.


“Settlements are sealed for a variety of reasons, are common in litigation, and are done at the request of both landowners and operators,” Mr. Wohlschlegel said.


Still, the documented E.P.A. case, which has gone largely unnoticed for decades, includes evidence that many industry representatives were aware of it and also fought the agency’s attempts to include other cases in the final study.


 The report is not recent — it was published in 1987, and the contamination was discovered in 1984. Drilling technology and safeguards in well design have improved significantly since then. Nevertheless, the report does contradict what has emerged as a kind of mantra in the industry and in the government.


The report concluded that hydraulic fracturing fluids or gel used by the Kaiser Exploration and Mining Company contaminated a well roughly 600 feet away on the property of James Parsons in Jackson County, W.Va., referring to it as “Mr. Parson’s water well.”


“When fracturing the Kaiser gas well on Mr. James Parson’s property, fractures were created allowing migration of fracture fluid from the gas well to Mr. Parson’s water well,” according to the  agency’ssummary of the case. “This fracture fluid, along with natural gas was present in Mr. Parson’s water, rendering it unusable.”


Asked about the cause of the incident, Mr. Wohlschlegel emphasized that the important factor was that the driller and the regulator had not known about the nearby aquifer. But in comments submitted to the E.P.A. at the time about the report, the petroleum institute acknowledged that this was indeed a case of drinking water contamination from fracking.


“The damage here,” the institute wrote, referring to Mr. Parsons’ contaminated water well, “results from an accident or malfunction of the fracturing process.”


Mr. Wohlschlegel cautioned however that the comments provided at the time by the institute were not based on its own research and therefore it cannot be sure that other factors did not play a role.


In their report, E.P.A. officials also wrote that Mr. Parsons’ case was highlighted as an “illustrative” example of the hazards created by this type of drilling, and that legal settlements and nondisclosure agreements prevented access to scientific documentation of other incidents.


“This is typical practice, for instance, in Texas,”  the report stated. “In some cases, the records of well-publicized damage incidents are almost entirely unavailable for review.”


Bipartisan federal legislation before Congress would require judges to consider public health and safety before sealing court records or approving settlement agreements.


Dan Derkics, a 17-year veteran of the environmental agency who oversaw research for the report, said that hundreds of other cases of drinking water contamination were found, many of which looked from preliminary investigations to have been caused by hydraulic fracturing like the one from West Virginia. But they were unable to learn more about them.


“I can assure you that the Jackson County case was not unique,” said Mr. Derkics, who retired from the agency in 1994. “That is why the drinking water concerns are real.”


The New York Times was made aware of the 1987 E.P.A. report and some of its supporting research materials by Ms. Greathouse, the study’s lead author. Other records pertaining to the well were obtained from state archives or from the agency’s library.


Some industry officials criticized the research behind the report at the time. Their comments were among the dozens submitted by the industry to the agency.


“It is clear from reading the 228 alleged damage cases that E.P.A.’s contractor was careless in its investigation and presentation of this material,”  a letter from the American Petroleum Institute said.


The organization faulted a draft of the report as failing to include enough comment from state regulators and energy companies, and as including cases that were poorly documented or outside the scope of the project. In remarks to the agency at the time, the petroleum institute also emphasized that safeguards in West Virginia had improved because of the incident, which the organization referred to as an aberration and said was potentially caused by a malfunction.


“As described in the detail write-up, this is not a normal result of fracturing, as it ruins the productive capability of the wells,” the institute said about the case.


A spokesman for ExxonMobil, Alan T. Jeffers, was asked about Mr. Tillerson’s comments to Congress in light of the documents relating to the West Virginia case. He said that Mr. Tillerson, whose company is the largest producer of natural gas in the United States, was only echoing what various state and federal regulators had said.


On the issue of sealed settlements, Mr. Jeffers said that investigators and regulators could use subpoenas if they really wanted access to the information.


Improvements in fracking have led to a boom in natural gas drilling, enabling energy companies to tap vast reserves of gas in previously inaccessible shale formations deep underground.


Most drilling experts indeed have said that contamination of drinking water with fracking liquids is highly improbable. Even critics of fracking tend to agree that if wells are designed properly, drilling fluids should not affect underground drinking water. Industry officials also emphasize that all forms of drilling involve some degree of risk. The question, they say, is what represents an acceptable level. Once chemicals contaminate underground drinking-water sources, they are very difficult to remove, according to federal and industry studies. One E.P.A. official involved with a current study being conducted by the agency on the risks of fracking on drinking water said the agency encountered continuing challenges to get access to current cases because of legal settlements.


“Our hands are tied,” said the official, who spoke anonymously because he is not authorized to speak to reporters.


Brendan Gilfillan, a spokesman for the agency, said that it had indeed encountered these barriers but that there were still enough alternate cases to study.


A 2004 study by the agency concluded that hydraulic fracturing of one kind of natural gas well — coal-bed methane wells — posed “little or no threat” to underground drinking water supplies. The study was later criticized by some within the agency as being unscientific and unduly influenced by industry.


Asked about the 1987 E.P.A. report and the West Virginia well, Mr. Gilfillan said the agency was reviewing them closely.


Instances of gas bubbling from fracked sites into nearby water wells have been extensively documented. The industry has also acknowledged that fracking liquids can end up in aquifers because of failures in the casing of wells, spills that occur above ground or through other factors. However, the drilling industry emphasizes that no such cases exist in which the fracking process itself caused drilling liquids to contaminate drinking water.


Both types of contamination can render the water unusable. However, contamination from fracking fluids is widely considered more worrisome because the fluids can contain carcinogens like benzene.


The E.P.A.’s 1987 report does not discuss the specific pathway that the fracking fluid or gel took to get to Mr. Parsons’ water well in West Virginia or how those fluids moved from a depth of roughly 4,200 feet, where the natural gas well was fracked, to the water well, which was about 400 feet underground.


However,  state records not included in the agency’s final report show the existence of four abandoned wells nearby that were deeper than the fracked gas well. State inspectors and drilling experts suggested in interviews that the contamination in Mr. Parsons’ well might have been caused when fracking pushed chemicals from the gas well into nearby abandoned wells where the fracking pressure might have helped them migrate up toward the water well.


This  well was fracked using gas and water, and with far less pressure and water than is commonly used today.


The Environmental Working Group, a research and advocacy organization, studied the Parsons case extensively over the past year, interviewing local residents and former state regulators as well as reviewing state and federal documents.


The organization found at least four abandoned gas wells within 1,700 feet of the gas well Kaiser drilled on Mr. Parsons’ property and roughly the same distance from the water well. All of these abandoned wells had been plugged with cement and other materials but had some of their casing removed, which is common for such wells, according to state records.


“The evidence is pretty clear that the E.P.A. got it right about this being a clear case of drinking water contamination from fracking,” said Dusty Horwitt, a lawyer from theEnvironmental Working Group who investigated the Parsons case.


The risk of  abandoned wells serving as conduits for contamination is one that the E.P.A. is currently researching as part of its national study on fracking. Many states lack complete records with the number or location of these abandoned wells and they lack the resources to ensure that abandoned and active wells are inspected regularly.


A 1999 report by the Department of Energy said there were about 2.5 million abandoned oil and natural gas wells in the United States at the time.


Mr. Parsons said in a brief interview that he could not comment on the case. Court records indicate that in 1987 he reached a settlement with the drilling company for an undisclosed amount.


Ms. Greathouse, the former environmental research contractor and the lead author of the 1987 E.P.A. report, said that she and her colleagues had found “dozens” of cases that she said appeared to specifically involve drinking water contamination related to fracking. But they were unable to investigate those cases further and get access to more documents because of legal settlements. All but the Parsons case were excluded from the E.P.A. study, she said, because of pressure from industry representatives who were members of an agency working group overseeing the research.


The justification for excluding the cases was usually that they lacked sufficient documentation or involved a type of contamination that was outside the scope of the study.


It IS in my back yard - well...
[ In Reply To ..]
...my parents' back yard, actually.
And they and you are okay with it? - SM
[ In Reply To ..]

So, where are they in this process now?  Let me guess.  


Stages of Grief


1. Denial


2. Anger


3. Bargaining


4. Depression


5. Acceptance


Or are they rolling in the dough from leasing and just hoping against hope that they'll never suffer any deleterious effects to their property or ill health effects as a result?  






Her team is for it, so she is. - Simple, man, simple. nm
[ In Reply To ..]
x
HOLY CRAP! Well, it's good he can - laugh about it.
[ In Reply To ..]
I can't say I'd find the humor, myself! But I do like that guy's attitude.

LOL

Similar Messages:


Celebrities Weigh In On Betsy DeVos Confirmation:Feb 08, 2017
Winning! ...

Don't Fall For This SCAM That Just Fooled Me!Dec 18, 2010
Was buying a gift last week online... either Amazon or eBay, I forget.  An ad for a *free sample* of "Dermitage Advanced Skin Renewal" system comes up, disguised as an offer from the website.  "Just pay $3.97 for shipping", and supposedly you get a free trial size of this anti-aging skincare product.  So, I bite.  I figure, $3.97 isn't much; it'll be fun to try out this product. Dermitage package arrives today.   The invoice still says "14-day free tri ...

Not Like Father, Like Son: Celebrities Who Endorsed Ron Paul Aren't Sure About His Son, RandMay 20, 2015
Did any of you know that famously "liberal" celebrities such as Bill Maher actually endorsed Ron Paul in 2012 rather than Barack Obama as they had previously? The Washington Post article below mentions a few who endorsed Ron Paul, but whom have either "defected" over his son, Rand Paul, or just aren't sure about him yet. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/05/20/ron-pauls-celebrity-fans-arent-flocking-to-rand-paul/ Apparently disillusioned with Obama by 2012, Bill Maher c ...