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to those who grew up in the '60s and '70s

Posted: Aug 19, 2014

do you find the renewed degree of racism in our society, and the ignorance of the civil rights movement, disheartening?;

You bet! - sm - 60s kid

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I wasn't directly involved in the civil rights movement. I was too young, and lived on military bases overseas, but I was aware of what was happening and what so many people were going through to gain equal opportunity.

My personal view, though, is that everything in life is like a pendulum. It swings way one way and then the other and then slowly finds the center. This may be the pendulum swinging the other way.

Yes, it is disheartening. We need to get that pendulum moving back the other way.

60s kid - me

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I don't think racism ever went away, just a bit under the radar that's all. Every now & then something triggers a new event. We lived in a white neighborhood & got bussed to a black school & got a real good taste of what the black kids had in white schools. Why can't people accept that we're all just human? Why does color matter AT ALL?

Is it really renewed or was it just glossed - over and buried, festering-nm

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Racism will always be a problem in America. - eom

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I believe Oprah made a lot of people very angry when she bluntly said, "There are still generations of people, older people, who were born and bred and marinated in it, in that prejudice and racism, and they just have to die." This statement is blunt, but it is so very true. Until this society is rid of all the old racists, racism and everything that goes along with it, will be a problem for America. And the world is watching.

I don't think it will die out. - L&L

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Hard core racists raise hard core racist children each and every generation.

While I was young and naive in the 60s, living in a whitebread midwest and rooting for civil rights, when I moved south and actually encountered other races, I started to understand some of the bases for racist attitudes.

are you saying they are justified - or that the racism is just worse in the South

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and will never die out?

some of both - L&L

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there ARE reasons stereotypes do get formed.

See this may be the most honest discussion here - I live just outside of Ferguson MO

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When this poster says it is a little bit of both and that sterotypes are formed for a reason, it sounds to me as if they feel justified in racist behavior. You can't take the behavior of one human being and attribute it to all human beings. You also can't take the behavior of one black person and attribute it to all of us. There is a legacy of racism. My grandmother lived to be 105 (died in 2010) and the stories she told of racism would make the hairs on your back stand up. But she always taught me to let people show you who THEY are, don't make any opinions or judgements based on anything but what you see for yourself. I live my life that way. I was active duty Army from 1972 to 1977. We had basic training at Fort McClellan Alabama. The Caucasion recruits could wear their uniform into the small town when we had free weekends. The black recruits could not because we were told "those people did not want to see us wearing the uniform of their country." That was in 1972, not that long ago. We will never be free of racism, I get that, but please stop believing it is ok to kill our children in the street because of it. That is what the protesting in Ferguson MO is about.

Thank you for your post - and thank you for your service

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You are so right. Until people see Michael Brown, and others who have been killed by police, as a human being with rights rather than a "thug" or whatever, racism will rule this country. As Jesse Williams (Grey's Anatomy actor) said on CNN's State of the Union:

“I think we have to talk about the narrative and make sure we’re starting at the beginning. You will find that people doing the oppressing often want to start the narrative at a convenient point,” Williams, 33, said. “This started with a kid getting shot and killed and left in the street for four hours. I’ve never seen a white body left in the heat for four hours in the sweltering heat.”

My husband was employed in South Carolina to work on a dairy farm for a short time back in the early 1990s. All the workers (in that extremely hot and humid climate) had furnished homes provided, but the black worker did not have a refrigerator. Really? Just the black worker, everyone else did. Also, there was a black girl helping clean the houses out and she was calling us Missy and Mister, which made me think I had been transported back to Gone With The Wind. This farmer was like a big daddy in the neighborhood. My first experience with this kind of thing, I was from the east.

I asked the young lady (who was going to college on a sports scholarship I believe) why she was calling us Missy and Mister and she claimed it was respect for her elders. I do wonder if the big daddy made her do that though, how someone like that could force the whole town to behave how he wished.

Needless to say, we were not there long, but it did make me think about how different this country can be for different people, and how bad it often is for African Americans.

Self-Segregation and Why it is hard for - Whites to understand Ferguson

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http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/08/self-segregation-why-its-hard-for-whites-to-understand-ferguson/378928/

Moving forward -

Everyone, get out of your comfort zone and have meaningful interactions with people who don't look like you - on a regular basis.

Birds of a feather... - nm

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Oh please.. these days, the racism is black against white!! - It is already evident in this case!

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This cop, who had his face broken cannot even get a chance due to the fact that every black person from the public in Ferguson to even Holder and Obama assume he is guilty. It is disgusting to watch this!

His face broken, really? - how would anyone know?

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The COWARD has disappeared himself. First it was a broken eye, whoops, nope, that one is obviously no longer valid since the video shows him striding around afterwards.

Now it is simply a broken face? Prove it, I say.

Otherwise, even if he did have a broken face, that justifies killing someone and letting the body lie there for 4 hours without even the gesture of calling the ambulance?

How is the truth ever going to come out if this person never fronts up?

He "cannot even get a chance"? Really?

What do YOU think would have happened if a black cop had shot a white boy in the street and left it there for 4 hours? Hmmm?

Something tells me nobody would have hid him away like this. Shameful.

Replying to "His face broken, really?" - eom

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Agree with everything you said. If he had been injured to any extend that they are claiming, we all know that would have been made public immediately, not 2 weeks later.

Instead they hid Wilson away, have not had him make any statement on his own, and are working overtime to churn out a fake story to make Mike responsible for his own death.

In addition, friends of Wilson are giving their account of what happened. Even though they were not there. Not Wilson himself, but his friends. And we should just believe them because we are told to believe them.

Never mind all the people who actually were there and saw what happened, AND the video footage, we are told to believe second hand accounts from people who are the Wilson's friends and who were nowhere near the scene.

I suppose next they will tell us that Wilson suffered some sort of damage to his tongue and vocal structures and that is the reason as to why he has remained mum about all this.

Incident report not filed until 10 days after - the fact also

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I don't agree that everyone assumes the cop is guilty - sm

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Citizens are looking for full disclosure. What's wrong with that?

He wasn't injured much, if at all - at least at the time of the shooting

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Attached is link of cop wandering around, pacing, no evident injuries, other cop not interested in obtaining medical assistance for the "injured" cop. The cop is striding back and forth, doesn't even seem particularly pumped up with adrenalin. In all of his gesticulation he doesn't point at his face, touch his face or even refer to his injuries. Maybe if he were in shock the other cop would have him sit down, wait for medical assistance, get him some water, something.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=piaget+crenshaw+youtube&FORM=VIRE5#view=detail&mid=489AE15F016B215F2A2B489AE15F016B215F2A2B

WOW!!!!!!!!! - If his face was really broken

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Why haven't they "leaked" the photo or medical record like thy have leaked all negativity about Michael Brown? Clearly you are not from the Ferguson area (I am, I live this everyday)so the only information you have is anecdotal and you have nothing concrete to back you up. Just like you have accused us of believing the "cop" is guilty you somehow as pooorly informed as you are believe Michael is guilty. If you think its disgusting to watch, believe me it is disgusting to live.

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