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Anyone catch the speech tonight?


Posted: Sep 8, 2011

I missed it... what'd ya'll think? Anything new or the same BS politico rhetoric?

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If you mean - sm

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The same ol' TP/puglicans sitting on their hands all stony-faced like two-year-olds that are sitting in a corner, well yes.

There are many economist-type people who said it is a great thing. Too bad things like evolution, climate change, and economic science is beyond the average Republican congressman and/or candidate.

What I heard. - hmmm

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Not sure why he said "pass the bill" 17 times. Kind of overkill.

He had some good ideas, but I don't like his all or nothing, take it or leave it mentality.

I heard Eric Cantor say last night that there are several items presented in the President's plan that the Republicans do like, things that they presented themselves over the past year, but that have been ignored until now. Still, they are not going to be on board with an "take it or leave it" mandate.

Obama promised a jobs plan LAST YEAR, in 2010, after his last trip to Martha's Vineyard. Then he throws this one together in a couple of weeks. Nothing he presented was anything new or different than already tried before.

Extension of unemployment - done before.
Payroll tax cut - done before. Didn't really seem to affect our household's bottom line significantly.

Green energy subsidies - Solyndra, anyone?

Infrastructure - did that with the roads program last year. Again, limited effect. If I'm an unemployed auto worker, how is building a school going to put me back to work. And you might bring up job training - but how long does that take? I'm training for a new job, and I had about half the credits already from previous schooling. It's going to take me another 2 years to finish. That is not a short-term fix.

What was more interesting than the speech, was the presentation by Frank Luntz on Hannity last night. Mr. Luntz ran a focus group last night with a group evenly divided between people who voted for Obama last election and people who voted for McCain.

Out of this 30, or so, cohort only 3 said they were inspired by Obama's speech, 1 pretty inspired, the other 2 somewhat.

All blamed Washington for the economic situation the country finds itself in. One person remarked, "If we all assume that they are the problem, how can we possibly assume they are the solution?"

Out of the 15 or so that voted for Obama, only 4 said they would definitely vote for him again. Another 3 or 4 were unsure. When asked if they would defend him, none spoke up.

The one topic that seemed to be embraced by all was the idea of closing tax loopholes and trying to reduce the influence of lobbyists. Great idea - not sure how that would ever happen.

FYI, sm, you lose all credibility in a political debate when you resort to name calling. It shows that you have no meaningful arguments to offer.

Well said...bravo! - ;)

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Oops! Are you talking about my typo? - Didn't get the edit code in, I guess --nm

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You lose even more cred with a lecture on name calling. - This coming from the name caller in chief.

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Would almost be funny if it weren't so pathetically myopic.
Maybe you should buy a puppy... - hmmm
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Another rude comment - Trying to win a prize?
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She ALREADY takes the prize. And the cake. - Rudeness & misinformed, personified.
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Did you count how many times he said "Pass the bill"? - me

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What you wrote sounds like a regurgitation of what I heard on Fox this morning while I was flipping the channels.
The concept that repeating this phrase to place emphasis - sm
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on the urgency of the situation, its rather obvious reference to congressional intransigence and the coinage of a new "battle cry," not surprisingly, flew right over their heads on account of their deep denial over their politicization of human suffering by obstructing any and all progress to create a viable jobs plan. I plan to use the phrase at least as often as often as they throw down Kool-aid drinkers, sheeple and union thugs.

So you prefer a plan that scarcely utters the word “jobs” - With a hocus-pocus focus

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where we all channel our inner Bush, commemorate trickle down, and craft a get-rich-quick scheme for the “jobs creators,” AKA the top 2 percenters, big business (the offshoring out-sorcerers that can make jobs disappear faster than you can shake a stick and suck money out of the stateside economy until it’s dry as a bone), big oil, banks too big to fail and Wall Street, huh?

We should deregulate everything in sight in the name of empowering families, small businesses and entrepreneurs and not expect an explanation as to just how doing one leads to the other, since no one can FORCE the beneficiaries of this so-called “economic growth” to forego big profits and create new jobs here at home. We should simply ignore the jobs that would be LOST in the process and go on blind faith that those good ole boys will replace them and actually create more with the new their dereg windfalls. I don’t know about anyone else, but it seems to me we’re still reeling in the aftermath of the last spate of deregs from Ws time.

We should tweek the tax code for the poor beleaguered jobs creators in the name of “increasing American competitiveness to spur investment.” Investment where? India? China? The Philippines? Indonesia? We should lower the tax rate for business (plus the red herrings in the room…individuals and small business owners) to no more than 25%. It seems Ws tax cuts were too puny, so we need to contract the economy some more and inflate the debt beyond comprehension.

Next, we reform the tax code so American businesses can bring their profits back home without paying a “penalty.” Translation: Let all profits from overseas ventures be tax free. No mention here of how this will FORCE business to create more jobs instead of more stockholder dividends, CEO bonuses and obscene profits.

“Increase competitiveness for manufacturers” by passing free trade agreements with Columbia, Panama and South Korea, creating 250,000 jobs. Where, in Columbia, Panama and South Korea? What we need is to exploit MORE cheap labor markets in Asia and to our South, prop up Columbia’s drug cartels with an infusion of American business capitol and create some new destinations for MORE outsourcing and offshoring, all in the name of creating “new markets” for American made products. Just ignore those Made in China (or Columbia, Panama, South Korea) labels in fine print.

In the name of encouraging entrepreneurship and growth we need to “discourage frivolous lawsuits.” What? Must mean restrictions on damages recovered from corporation screwups like the BP oil disaster, or protecting them against worker safety, working conditions, and wage disputes. We need to “remove barriers for building a first-class workforce” so we can compete in the global marketplace. What barriers? Sounds like more deregs to me, but who knows?

Now we arrive at the very special section where we bow down and genuflect to the big oil lobby, that dying energy albatross we keep propping up instead developing innovative green energy strategies while ignoring advances China and other countries have made over the past decade or so in this arena. Yes, I can say Solyndra. Had we started investing in this after oil crisis 1, 2 or 3 (I've lost count by now) instead of turning a blind eye every time the oil companies bankrolled GOP candidate campaigns, we would find ourselves ahead of that curve, not bringing up the rear, with a brand new jobs-producing industry. The name of this GOP game is drill, baby, drill (not even the Grand Canyon is off limits), pipelines from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico via Yellowstone, blowing the tops off of the entire Appalachian Mountain chain, fracking and whatever other polluting, environment-decimating schemes they can come up with to avoid the inevitable renewable green energy source destination.

Last but not least, we have debt reduction. Cut spending until there is nothing left to cut, dismantle any and all government programs, close DC down permanently and turn the White House and chambers of Congress into museums, thus doing way with their own jobs. Brilliant strategy.

Can anybody please point out to me any one single component of this “Jobs Creators” plan that is not a W rewind that brought us to the brink of depression by the end of his term? Just one.

BTW, the American Jobs Act would add 1.9 million real-live jobs and reduce unemployment by 1%. It’s start, but we do have to get past the “pass this bill” overkill, don’t we now? I’m not holding my breath and feel quite certain that the hissies in the House have found a brand new hostage.

GOP Jobs Creators Plan:
http://majorityleader.gov/Jobs/HRP_JOBS_SUMMARY.pdf

Our President's Speech - here you go

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THE WHITE HOUSE



Office of the Press Secretary



EMBARGOED UNTIL DELIVERY
September 8, 2011



Remarks of President Barack Obama in an



Address to a Joint Session of Congress




Mr. Speaker, Mr. Vice President, Members of Congress, and fellow Americans:

Tonight we meet at an urgent time for our country. We continue to face an economic crisis that has left millions of our neighbors jobless, and a political crisis that has made things worse.

This past week, reporters have been asking “What will this speech mean for the President? What will it mean for Congress? How will it affect their polls, and the next election?”

But the millions of Americans who are watching right now: they don’t care about politics. They have real life concerns. Many have spent months looking for work. Others are doing their best just to scrape by – giving up nights out with the family to save on gas or make the mortgage; postponing retirement to send a kid to college.

These men and women grew up with faith in an America where hard work and responsibility paid off. They believed in a country where everyone gets a fair shake and does their fair share – where if you stepped up, did your job, and were loyal to your company, that loyalty would be rewarded with a decent salary and good benefits; maybe a raise once in awhile. If you did the right thing, you could make it in America.

But for decades now, Americans have watched that compact erode. They have seen the deck too often stacked against them. And they know that Washington hasn’t always put their interests first.

The people of this country work hard to meet their responsibilities. The question tonight is whether we’ll meet ours. The question is whether, in the face of an ongoing national crisis, we can stop the political circus and actually do something to help the economy; whether we can restore some of the fairness and security that has defined this nation since our beginning.

Those of us here tonight can’t solve all of our nation’s woes. Ultimately, our recovery will be driven not by Washington, but by our businesses and our workers. But we can help. We can make a difference. There are steps we can take right now to improve people’s lives.

I am sending this Congress a plan that you should pass right away. It’s called the American Jobs Act. There should be nothing controversial about this piece of legislation. Everything in here is the kind of proposal that’s been supported by both Democrats and Republicans – including many who sit here tonight. And everything in this bill will be paid for. Everything.

The purpose of the American Jobs Act is simple: to put more people back to work and more money in the pockets of those who are working. It will create more jobs for construction workers, more jobs for teachers, more jobs for veterans, and more jobs for the long-term unemployed. It will provide a tax break for companies who hire new workers, and it will cut payroll taxes in half for every working American and every small business. It will provide a jolt to an economy that has stalled, and give companies confidence that if they invest and hire, there will be customers for their products and services. You should pass this jobs plan right away.

Everyone here knows that small businesses are where most new jobs begin. And you know that while corporate profits have come roaring back, smaller companies haven’t. So for everyone who speaks so passionately about making life easier for “job creators,” this plan is for you.

Pass this jobs bill, and starting tomorrow, small businesses will get a tax cut if they hire new workers or raise workers’ wages. Pass this jobs bill, and all small business owners will also see their payroll taxes cut in half next year. If you have 50 employees making an average salary, that’s an $80,000 tax cut. And all businesses will be able to continue writing off the investments they make in 2012.

It’s not just Democrats who have supported this kind of proposal. Fifty House Republicans have proposed the same payroll tax cut that’s in this plan. You should pass it right away.

Pass this jobs bill, and we can put people to work rebuilding America. Everyone here knows that we have badly decaying roads and bridges all over this country. Our highways are clogged with traffic. Our skies are the most congested in the world.

This is inexcusable. Building a world-class transportation system is part of what made us an economic superpower. And now we’re going to sit back and watch China build newer airports and faster railroads? At a time when millions of unemployed construction workers could build them right here in America?

There are private construction companies all across America just waiting to get to work. There’s a bridge that needs repair between Ohio and Kentucky that’s on one of the busiest trucking routes in North America. A public transit project in Houston that will help clear up one of the worst areas of traffic in the country. And there are schools throughout this country that desperately need renovating. How can we expect our kids to do their best in places that are literally falling apart? This is America. Every child deserves a great school – and we can give it to them, if we act now.

The American Jobs Act will repair and modernize at least 35,000 schools. It will put people to work right now fixing roofs and windows; installing science labs and high-speed internet in classrooms all across this country. It will rehabilitate homes and businesses in communities hit hardest by foreclosures. It will jumpstart thousands of transportation projects across the country. And to make sure the money is properly spent and for good purposes, we’re building on reforms we’ve already put in place. No more earmarks. No more boondoggles. No more bridges to nowhere. We’re cutting the red tape that prevents some of these projects from getting started as quickly as possible. And we’ll set up an independent fund to attract private dollars and issue loans based on two criteria: how badly a construction project is needed and how much good it would do for the economy.

This idea came from a bill written by a Texas Republican and a Massachusetts Democrat. The idea for a big boost in construction is supported by America’s largest business organization and America’s largest labor organization. It’s the kind of proposal that’s been supported in the past by Democrats and Republicans alike. You should pass it right away.

Pass this jobs bill, and thousands of teachers in every state will go back to work. These are the men and women charged with preparing our children for a world where the competition has never been tougher. But while they’re adding teachers in places like South Korea, we’re laying them off in droves. It’s unfair to our kids. It undermines their future and ours. And it has to stop. Pass this jobs bill, and put our teachers back in the classroom where they belong.

Pass this jobs bill, and companies will get extra tax credits if they hire America’s veterans. We ask these men and women to leave their careers, leave their families, and risk their lives to fight for our country. The last thing they should have to do is fight for a job when they come home.

Pass this bill, and hundreds of thousands of disadvantaged young people will have the hope and dignity of a summer job next year. And their parents, low-income Americans who desperately want to work, will have more ladders out of poverty.

Pass this jobs bill, and companies will get a $4,000 tax credit if they hire anyone who has spent more than six months looking for a job. We have to do more to help the long-term unemployed in their search for work. This jobs plan builds on a program in Georgia that several Republican leaders have highlighted, where people who collect unemployment insurance participate in temporary work as a way to build their skills while they look for a permanent job. The plan also extends unemployment insurance for another year. If the millions of unemployed Americans stopped getting this insurance, and stopped using that money for basic necessities, it would be a devastating blow to this economy. Democrats and Republicans in this Chamber have supported unemployment insurance plenty of times in the past. At this time of prolonged hardship, you should pass it again – right away.

Pass this jobs bill, and the typical working family will get a fifteen hundred dollar tax cut next year. Fifteen hundred dollars that would have been taken out of your paycheck will go right into your pocket. This expands on the tax cut that Democrats and Republicans already passed for this year. If we allow that tax cut to expire – if we refuse to act – middle-class families will get hit with a tax increase at the worst possible time. We cannot let that happen. I know some of you have sworn oaths to never raise any taxes on anyone for as long as you live. Now is not the time to carve out an exception and raise middle-class taxes, which is why you should pass this bill right away.

This is the American Jobs Act. It will lead to new jobs for construction workers, teachers, veterans, first responders, young people and the long-term unemployed. It will provide tax credits to companies that hire new workers, tax relief for small business owners, and tax cuts for the middle-class. And here’s the other thing I want the American people to know: the American Jobs Act will not add to the deficit. It will be paid for. And here’s how:

The agreement we passed in July will cut government spending by about $1 trillion over the next ten years. It also charges this Congress to come up with an additional $1.5 trillion in savings by Christmas. Tonight, I’m asking you to increase that amount so that it covers the full cost of the American Jobs Act. And a week from Monday, I’ll be releasing a more ambitious deficit plan – a plan that will not only cover the cost of this jobs bill, but stabilize our debt in the long run.

This approach is basically the one I’ve been advocating for months. In addition to the trillion dollars of spending cuts I’ve already signed into law, it’s a balanced plan that would reduce the deficit by making additional spending cuts; by making modest adjustments to health care programs like Medicare and Medicaid; and by reforming our tax code in a way that asks the wealthiest Americans and biggest corporations to pay their fair share. What’s more, the spending cuts wouldn’t happen so abruptly that they’d be a drag on our economy, or prevent us from helping small business and middle-class families get back on their feet right away.

Now, I realize there are some in my party who don’t think we should make any changes at all to Medicare and Medicaid, and I understand their concerns. But here’s the truth. Millions of Americans rely on Medicare in their retirement. And millions more will do so in the future. They pay for this benefit during their working years. They earn it. But with an aging population and rising health care costs, we are spending too fast to sustain the program. And if we don’t gradually reform the system while protecting current beneficiaries, it won’t be there when future retirees need it. We have to reform Medicare to strengthen it.

I’m also well aware that there are many Republicans who don’t believe we should raise taxes on those who are most fortunate and can best afford it. But here is what every American knows. While most people in this country struggle to make ends meet, a few of the most affluent citizens and corporations enjoy tax breaks and loopholes that nobody else gets. Right now, Warren Buffet pays a lower tax rate than his secretary – an outrage he has asked us to fix. We need a tax code where everyone gets a fair shake, and everybody pays their fair share. And I believe the vast majority of wealthy Americans and CEOs are willing to do just that, if it helps the economy grow and gets our fiscal house in order.

I’ll also offer ideas to reform a corporate tax code that stands as a monument to special interest influence in Washington. By eliminating pages of loopholes and deductions, we can lower one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world. Our tax code shouldn’t give an advantage to companies that can afford the best-connected lobbyists. It should give an advantage to companies that invest and create jobs here in America.

So we can reduce this deficit, pay down our debt, and pay for this jobs plan in the process. But in order to do this, we have to decide what our priorities are. We have to ask ourselves, “What’s the best way to grow the economy and create jobs?”

Should we keep tax loopholes for oil companies? Or should we use that money to give small business owners a tax credit when they hire new workers? Because we can’t afford to do both. Should we keep tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires? Or should we put teachers back to work so our kids can graduate ready for college and good jobs? Right now, we can’t afford to do both.

This isn’t political grandstanding. This isn’t class warfare. This is simple math. These are real choices that we have to make. And I’m pretty sure I know what most Americans would choose. It’s not even close. And it’s time for us to do what’s right for our future.

The American Jobs Act answers the urgent need to create jobs right away. But we can’t stop there. As I’ve argued since I ran for this office, we have to look beyond the immediate crisis and start building an economy that lasts into the future – an economy that creates good, middle-class jobs that pay well and offer security. We now live in a world where technology has made it possible for companies to take their business anywhere. If we want them to start here and stay here and hire here, we have to be able to out-build, out-educate, and out-innovate every other country on Earth.

This task, of making America more competitive for the long haul, is a job for all of us. For government and for private companies. For states and for local communities – and for every American citizen. All of us will have to up our game. All of us will have to change the way we do business.

My administration can and will take some steps to improve our competitiveness on our own. For example, if you’re a small business owner who has a contract with the federal government, we’re going to make sure you get paid a lot faster than you do now. We’re also planning to cut away the red tape that prevents too many rapidly-growing start-up companies from raising capital and going public. And to help responsible homeowners, we’re going to work with Federal housing agencies to help more people refinance their mortgages at interest rates that are now near 4% -- a step that can put more than $2,000 a year in a family’s pocket, and give a lift to an economy still burdened by the drop in housing prices.

Other steps will require Congressional action. Today you passed reform that will speed up the outdated patent process, so that entrepreneurs can turn a new idea into a new business as quickly as possible. That’s the kind of action we need. Now it’s time to clear the way for a series of trade agreements that would make it easier for American companies to sell their products in Panama, Colombia, and South Korea – while also helping the workers whose jobs have been affected by global competition. If Americans can buy Kias and Hyundais, I want to see folks in South Korea driving Fords and Chevys and Chryslers. I want to see more products sold around the world stamped with three proud words: “Made in America.”

And on all of our efforts to strengthen competitiveness, we need to look for ways to work side-by-side with America’s businesses. That’s why I’ve brought together a Jobs Council of leaders from different industries who are developing a wide range of new ideas to help companies grow and create jobs.

Already, we’ve mobilized business leaders to train 10,000 American engineers a year, by providing company internships and training. Other businesses are covering tuition for workers who learn new skills at community colleges. And we’re going to make sure the next generation of manufacturing takes root not in China or Europe, but right here, in the United States of America. If we provide the right incentives and support – and if we make sure our trading partners play by the rules – we can be the ones to build everything from fuel-efficient cars to advanced biofuels to semiconductors that are sold all over the world. That’s how America can be number one again. That’s how America will be number one again.

Now, I realize that some of you have a different theory on how to grow the economy. Some of you sincerely believe that the only solution to our economic challenges is to simply cut most government spending and eliminate most government regulations.

Well, I agree that we can’t afford wasteful spending, and I will continue to work with Congress to get rid of it. And I agree that there are some rules and regulations that put an unnecessary burden on businesses at a time when they can least afford it. That’s why I ordered a review of all government regulations. So far, we’ve identified over 500 reforms, which will save billions of dollars over the next few years. We should have no more regulation than the health, safety, and security of the American people require. Every rule should meet that common sense test.

But what we can’t do – what I won’t do – is let this economic crisis be used as an excuse to wipe out the basic protections that Americans have counted on for decades. I reject the idea that we need to ask people to choose between their jobs and their safety. I reject the argument that says for the economy to grow, we have to roll back protections that ban hidden fees by credit card companies, or rules that keep our kids from being exposed to mercury, or laws that prevent the health insurance industry from shortchanging patients. I reject the idea that we have to strip away collective bargaining rights to compete in a global economy. We shouldn’t be in a race to the bottom, where we try to offer the cheapest labor and the worst pollution standards. America should be in a race to the top. And I believe that’s a race we can win.

In fact, this larger notion that the only thing we can do to restore prosperity is just dismantle government, refund everyone’s money, let everyone write their own rules, and tell everyone they’re on their own – that’s not who we are. That’s not the story of America.

Yes, we are rugged individualists. Yes, we are strong and self-reliant. And it has been the drive and initiative of our workers and entrepreneurs that has made this economy the engine and envy of the world.

But there has always been another thread running throughout our history – a belief that we are all connected; and that there are some things we can only do together, as a nation.

We all remember Abraham Lincoln as the leader who saved our Union. But in the middle of a Civil War, he was also a leader who looked to the future – a Republican president who mobilized government to build the transcontinental railroad; launch the National Academy of Sciences; and set up the first land grant colleges. And leaders of both parties have followed the example he set.

Ask yourselves – where would we be right now if the people who sat here before us decided not to build our highways and our bridges; our dams and our airports? What would this country be like if we had chosen not to spend money on public high schools, or research universities, or community colleges? Millions of returning heroes, including my grandfather, had the opportunity to go to school because of the GI Bill. Where would we be if they hadn’t had that chance?

How many jobs would it have cost us if past Congresses decided not to support the basic research that led to the Internet and the computer chip? What kind of country would this be if this Chamber had voted down Social Security or Medicare just because it violated some rigid idea about what government could or could not do? How many Americans would have suffered as a result?

No single individual built America on their own. We built it together. We have been, and always will be, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all; a nation with responsibilities to ourselves and with responsibilities to one another. Members of Congress, it is time for us to meet our responsibilities.

Every proposal I’ve laid out tonight is the kind that’s been supported by Democrats and Republicans in the past. Every proposal I’ve laid out tonight will be paid for. And every proposal is designed to meet the urgent needs of our people and our communities.

I know there’s been a lot of skepticism about whether the politics of the moment will allow us to pass this jobs plan – or any jobs plan. Already, we’re seeing the same old press releases and tweets flying back and forth. Already, the media has proclaimed that it’s impossible to bridge our differences. And maybe some of you have decided that those differences are so great that we can only resolve them at the ballot box.

But know this: the next election is fourteen months away. And the people who sent us here – the people who hired us to work for them – they don’t have the luxury of waiting fourteen months. Some of them are living week to week; paycheck to paycheck; even day to day. They need help, and they need it now.

I don’t pretend that this plan will solve all our problems. It shouldn’t be, nor will it be, the last plan of action we propose. What’s guided us from the start of this crisis hasn’t been the search for a silver bullet. It’s been a commitment to stay at it – to be persistent – to keep trying every new idea that works, and listen to every good proposal, no matter which party comes up with it.

Regardless of the arguments we’ve had in the past, regardless of the arguments we’ll have in the future, this plan is the right thing to do right now. You should pass it. And I intend to take that message to every corner of this country. I also ask every American who agrees to lift your voice and tell the people who are gathered here tonight that you want action now. Tell Washington that doing nothing is not an option. Remind us that if we act as one nation, and one people, we have it within our power to meet this challenge.

President Kennedy once said, “Our problems are man-made – therefore they can be solved by man. And man can be as big as he wants.”

These are difficult years for our country. But we are Americans. We are tougher than the times that we live in, and we are bigger than our politics have been. So let’s meet the moment. Let’s get to work, and show the world once again why the United States of America remains the greatest nation on Earth. Thank you, God bless you, and may God bless the United States of America.

Thanks for posting this. I couldn't watch it - sm

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because I found the inescapable mug shot of the Speaker and the GOPs folded arms and deadpan stares too distressing, errr, I mean distracting. For me, it's much better on paper. Thanks again.

More of the same in my opinion - sm

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He wants to support more union jobs with stimulus money. He needs to stimulate the private sector because when the private sector does well...we bring in more revenue....which in turns creates more money to build our infrastructure. He is doing things....as usual....bassackwards. Also, he said this will be funded without adding to the deficit but didn't give specifics...as usual. I agree that our infrastructure needs help, but that will be taken care of when we get the private sector rocking and rolling.

Union/private sector - mhhhhh

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Allow me to enlighten you, sm. MANY union jobs are in the PRIVATE sector. So what do you mean by private sector and bassackwards?

I was thinking the same thing - mbmt

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There are many private sector union jobs.
There are only 12% of Americans who - sm
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belong to a union and only 8% of those are private sector union jobs. So to stimulate the private sector is going to do more for our economy since most of the private sector is not union. I've done quite a bit of research and I've read over and over again that the best way to stimulate the economy is to stimulate the private sector because the free market will bring in more revenue so the government can then support things like infrastructure, etc. To give money to rebuild infrastructure to try and stimulate the economy won't help smaller businesses to hire more people. That is why I said this was bassackwards.....which is a nicer way of saying @ss backwards.

So many on here say that businesses are greedy because they won't hire people even though they are making more money. With the economy this unstable, why would they? For people to invest and hire more people, etc. there has to be confidence in the economy and its future. We don't have that right now because our government keeps spending money that we don't have and they know taxes have to go up to sustain this outrageous spending eventually. Also, businesses are going to be hurt, whether ya'll wanna admit it or not, by Obamacare and they won't be able to afford healthcare for their employees and that will cause many employees to lose their healthcare.

No matter how you want to spin our horrible economy and still try to make Obama the best thing since sliced bread, it doesn't change the fact that nothing he has done has helped small businesses and they hire more people than you think. No one wants to take the money to expand their company when things look so bad. That isn't greed. That is covering your butt so you don't lose what you have and all the people you hire lose their jobs.

Its exactly the same... - another "stimulus"

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that is identical to the first failed one! We don't need roads and bridges, and teachers and police officers - we need JOBS for the working class for crying out loud! Build a new school for who? Our town is a shadow of what it used to be. We don't need new schools!! Put that money into our SCHOOL SYSTEM, but that won't create jobs either. I live in Las Vegas and I tell you, all that stimulus money we got for roads went right to the same two companies that always get the bids - it did not add a single job here, it did make a complete mess out of our freeway system though. They are doing road work on roads that are hardly traveled!!

Good Lord! Does O'Bummer really think we are that stupid to see that this is the same repackaged, failed stimulus? There was even a comment last night that this incorporates some of the same stuff from before that was tried but did not work. COME ON!! And I suppose we will have to wait for the 'Oops, well it wasn't supposed to add to the deficit..." speech later.

I am so SICK SICK SICK of this moron. I can't wait for 2012 to celebrate the recovery of the good ole US of A when he is VOTED OUT!!

I am so proud we have an intelligent, eloquent president - 2012? No worries.

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And yes, you can just see the political wheels turning in Boehner's head on how he can try and stop all job creation for Americans just to make President Obama look bad. So sad. I can't wait until this bunch of Republicans are voted out.

Are you trying to convince us or you? - sm

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Gotta say this about him. I do like his speaking voice. He's pleasant to listen to. He seems like a calm person and if I was down in an emergency, his voice would be soothing and calm me down.

Now, to the other issue. If a person is so intelligent there would be no need to keep repeating it. Everyone would just know this. I will give him eloquent. I think hes very dashing. He dresses nicely and if he wasn't who he is, if I saw him on the street I would definitely look his way.

As for intelligent that is a whole different issue. If you want to believe he's intelligent that's fine. That's your opinion. The truth is out there. Maybe he's intelligent in organizing things, maybe he's intelligent in law, he's certainly intelligent in knowing how to keep the unions and bankers rich and in power. But on many other issues, I'd have to say that would be a no go. At least not according to the analysts, military, business people, etc.

I watched Boehner reaction last night. It was a lot better than watching the Jack-in-the box Pelosi getting up and clapping at every single word he said. I'm glad we have Boehner as Speaker of the House. Finally have someone in politics who truly shows they care about the American people in our country and that he's not taking the bait of the democrats and he's not going to let them get away with a lot of the crap they have been doing to us.

You really thing he's going to "try and stop all job creation for Americans just to make President Obama look bad"? Really? No REALLY??? You don't really believe that do you? If so you have been watching the hateful speech of the MSNBC crowd. Seriously I'm asking you to stop watching them. They are nothing but hateful, spiteful, liars. They have nothing to back any of what they say up. Turn to CNN. I implore you so that you can get some fair reporting. While I may not agree with everything on CNN I have found them to be fair in their reporting. They don't spew the absolute obvious hatred and lies that MSNBC does.

There is absolutely no proof that Boehner has ever tried stopping job creation for American's. If you look up his record and the good things he has done you would find that what you wrote is not true.

The only one that can make Obama look bad is Obama himself. If anyone in congress or senate does anything it reflects upon themselves, not Obama. You really think he would let his own family starve, be homeless, and unemployed and living in misery "just to make Obama look bad" (not a question).

2012? I TRULY cannot wait. I cannot wait til this bunch of Democrats are voted out. We need people to start working for us, not themselves. Democrats have proven they are not.

Obama's intelligence - mbmt

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"As for intelligent that is a whole different issue. If you want to believe he's intelligent that's fine."

There is no doubt in my mind that Obama is extremely intelligent and more capable of doing the job than any Republican candidate in the ring right now.
You think your seeing the Wizard of Oz - x
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but he's really just the "man behind the curtain" that we're not supposed to pay attention to.
Correction - "you're" - .
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Miss my spell check.
Wrong! The "men" behind the curtain are cooporate moguls - and oil and banking executives. nm
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You do know that he's not a God don't you - sm
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Hey, thanks for quoting me, this way I don't have to repeat it. I still stand by my statement and it goes doubly for this post.

Thats nice that you think Obama is extremely intelligent in your mind.
There is/are no God(s) except in your - imagination. nm
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My imagination - mbmt
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Just because you do not like President Obama, it does not mean that he is not an extremely intelligent human being. I think imagination comes into play when you try to make someone out to not be intelligent who clearly is.

When you ask me if I know he is not god, your imagination also comes into play. You are assuming that because I like him and do not think he is an unintelligent human being that I must think he is a god and that I am brainwashed. Don't let your imagination run wild!
Intelligence and common sense - x
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aren't necessarily the same thing.

If he's so smart, how come we never got a peek at his Hahvahd transcript?
Thank you! - Glad someone's awake - see message
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Intelligence is in someone's mind. Many people think Bush is intelligent. Others do not. You can keep saying someone is intelligent a million times, does not mean it's true. Wisdom comes with time. Comes from lessons people learn in life and how they handle situations, and how the decisions they make and how they affect people. Who they look to for advice, and what those decisions are. There is a difference between intelligent and devious. Learned that with Hillary. So if the poster wants to think he soooo in intelligent that is their opinion. Makes you wonder what exactly in. Again, if someone is so intelligent would anyone really need to keep repeating it over and over in an attempt to try to convince others? No, it would just be known. People don't keep repeating over and over "Einstein was so intelligent" or "Benjamin Franklin was soo intelligent" every time their name is mentioned.

Boehner had no control over his juvenile delinquents - during the debt ceiling process

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and we ended up with a disgraceful downgrade which was based in large measure on a vote of "no confidence" that we can handle our own economic recovery with specific references made to the obstructionist factions in Congress. Thanks, John. Not only does the freshmen delegation hold legislation hostage, but they also hold your party by the cajones as well. Speaker Jack-in-the-Box, on the other hand, passed boatloads of legislation, despite the hurricane-force headwinds she had to contend with on a daily basis.

If Perry gets your party's nomination, you can kiss that top spot good-bye. Don't kid yourself. On the national stage, he is positively unelectable. In their infinite wisdom, the hoodlums from your fringe have soundly rejected the only possible viable contender against Obama (and former front runner) on account of his Morman faith (!), among other such senseless whines from the perpetual malcontents, that he is not Christian enough or fanatic enough or some such trivial thing. These would be the same juvenile delinquents the speaker has been unable to reign in.

Instead of counting your chickens before the hatch, it might be a good idea to demonstrate the ablity to control and unite your own fractured party ranks since, as you said, the truth is out there. While you are at it, might wanna try coming up with some sort of platform other than slamming Obama 24/7/365, disprespecting the office of the presidency, the coronation of Bush II and that thinly-veiled agenda of abolishing the federal government all together. Just sayin'.

I dislike Boehner - smm

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He is only for the wealthy, but he did comment after the speech that he liked a lot of what the president said and believes they can work together. Usually I hear him dog everything the president says. So, maybe HE is starting to listen to what the American people want and that is jobs, not just making the rich richer. Maybe he is realizing that people are tired of the republican ways and does want to keep his job in the next election and better start working with the president insteading of for the wealthy corporations. I really hope they can all work together for the good of America. This plan actually helps everybody out. It gives incentives to companies for hiring workers here in America. It takes away useless loopholes that the republicans convinced us would create jobs here and really only put money in the big shots pockets. The incentives are only for hiring American workers and the unemployed and that is the only way they will get them. I really hope he is sincere on this and works with the president in a sincere manner instead of only trying to undermine everything he does to make him look bad for election time. Like the president said. Election time is 14 months away. Americans don't have 14 months.

You know what makes the president - look bad?

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How about the fact that democrats had total control and did nothing? Blaming the republicans now is just petty, IMO. Obama had his chance to make a difference and he didn't. The only thing Obama passed was Obamacare and he had to bribe members of his own party with tax payer dollars to get them on board. Not to mention that the regulations and costs associated with Obamacare will result in job loss for some Americans. Obama has done nothing but use tax payer dollars to pay off unions to "create jobs" to only turn around and say there were no such things as "shovel-ready jobs." Now he wants to turn around and essentially do the same thing?

President Obama makes himself look bad.

The contrast between President Obama and that - extremist group that showed for

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the Republican debate--well, there is just no contest. President Obama showed how reasonabe he is, willing to work with other people, smart, emotionally balanced, and thoughtful. It is too bad he has such a motley crew in the Republican congress to work with.

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