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So what's the take on the creep who beheaded

Posted: Sep 26, 2014

was fired (and rightfully so) for trying to convert other coworkers to Islam?

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AFAIC.it's terrorism, but will be called workplace violence - just like Fort Hood.

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Why? - nm

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PC and Obama and Holder love Muslims. - Nm

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Why is it terrorism? - sm

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Is it terrorism because he said Praise be to Allah? or that he was encouraging coworkers to convert to Islam?

Surely, you see the fallacy?
Great God Almighty! could have been shouted and how many times have you been approached to go a coworker's church? (albeit usually Christian)

I see no great ideological purpose or political motivation. I think we have a mentally ill individual playing copycat and thinking he was going out in a big way---but he survived.

He was a convicted felon with a long record. - be real

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This had nothing to do with terrorism and everything to do with the guy being a criminal.

He was a radicalized Muslim convert. - SM

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He had a Facebook page plastered with all kinds of jihadi propaganda. He took his lead from ISIS messages.

Why are we afraid to call it terrorism? - Ruby

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Are we afraid to call it terrorism because of the famous line "Al Quaida is on the run?" This is terrorism - it was done to terrorize - and it does - did he set out to kill this particular woman? No, he set out to terrorize - that's the distinction. Call it what it is.....

Why? - I'll tell you why.

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Because of the Muslim connection in the White House. And he doesn't want to offend Muslims because they are peaceful, loving people.

Why are we afraid to call it "going postal?" - sm

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Guy in Moore, Oklahoma, gets fired and the same day goes into front office and kills whomever gets in his way. This type of criminal behavior that is triggered by an inciting event is called a "crime of passion" or with the slang term "going postal," like the guy who got disciplined and returned the next morning and shot 20 employees at the Edmond, Oklahoma post office in the mid 1980s. By definition, crimes of passion are acts committed out of rage/anger and may be domestic or workplace violence, while terrorist acts are premeditated and calculated acts of violence in order to attain goals that are political, religious, or ideological in nature, such as the bombing of the federal building in the mid 1990s in Oklahoma City.

What's the deal with Oklahoma?

Now if they find evidence that this guy had somehow premeditated the idea of making a religious statement by getting himself fired on a predetermined date, then becoming angry and returning to his former employer's front office to behead some random people....

Sorry that it doesn't fit the conservatives' political worldview, but it just doesn't.

The proof to dispute your opinion is already out there. - sm

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You just have to know where to look for it. The guy was a recent Muslim convert turned radicalized extremist. That is the truth.

I know the facts. - sm

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Which is why I posted what I did. Crimes of passion in the workplace or anywhere else are NOT generally treated as acts of terrorism.

So what if all the facts of the case were equal except that the man had recently converted to Christianity last year while already in prison on a variety of charges including assault and battery of a police officer and what if after his prison conversion to Christianity, his anger and talk of violence were directed at unbelievers, and what if his Facebook page was full of such rantings against the unbelievers as well as praising the Lord and praising God. What if he was a fundamentalist Christian active in a Christian church in the area who believed women should be stoned for their transgressions and was in an argument about that at his workplace, apparently resulting in his being fired for it, and what if that guy with a violent past who spent time in prison for assault got really angry, acted on that anger immediately by killing a woman and attempting to kill another woman before he was stopped from doing it.

Would that be an act of Christian terrorism or an unpremeditated crime of passion that was set off by an inciting event? When a known violent guy blows up in anger and makes a quick bad decision and acts on it, would that be an act of premeditated religious terrorism in the name of God or an act of unpremeditated rage?

My take - minx

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I think we should all stock up on canned goods and sterno and go hide in our bunkers, because the radical Muslim terrorists are out to behead us!!! (sarcasm alert)

make room for Lindsey G. in that bunker! - nm

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