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Pro-gun âpatriot groupsâ plan dual rallies in Washington on disputed April anniversa


Posted: Apr 6, 2010

By Stephen C. Webster
Monday, April 5th, 2010 -- 8:16 pm

Update (at bottom): Pro-gun ads appearing in this report not directly linked to RAW STORY

The date April 19 seems to have a strange echo in American history.

According to the media, a pro-gun group planning a rally in Washington, D.C. on that day is doing so because it is the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing. While technically correct, that's not half the story.

The controversy surrounds two groups: Oath Keepers and Second Amendment March; one, a rapidly growing association of current and former military and law enforcement personnel who've sworn an oath to uphold the constitution, even if ordered otherwise; and the other, a pro-gun group organizing rallies across the country.

While Oath Keepers forbids its members from ever ushering U.S. citizens into a military tribunal or a detention camp, its promotional materials tend to focus on resisting the Obama administration -- even though their items of concern are artifacts from the Bush administration. They were the subject of a recent profile in Mother Jones magazine, which characterized them as deeply resentful of President Obama.

The remainder of the article and video can be found at:

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0405/progun-patriot-groups-plan-dual-rallies-washington-disputed-april-anniversary/

 

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Unbelievable! Very scary! I am thankful to...sm - oldtimer

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live in a place where things like this are not yet an issue...and these people wonder why gun control is an issue....to protect us afrom crazies like them!

Oath Keepers do NOT plan to carry guns on April 19 at the DC Mall - Backwards Typist

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They do plan of rallying at a national park in Virginia at the same time, which is an open carry park, but whether they carry guns or not is left to opinion. An Iraq combatant will be speaking there.

Wasn't something like this posted a couple weeks ago? I looked into it then.

"Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of currently serving military, reserves, National Guard, veterans, Peace Officers, and Fire Fighters who will fulfill the Oath we swore, with the support of like minded citizens who take an Oath to stand with us, to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, so help us God. Our Oath is to the Constitution."

I don't know this group very well and there is another group out there that subscribes to the same ideals. I can't remember the name anymore.


http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2010/04/03/urgent-calling-all-oath-keepers-time-to-take-a-stand-this-april-19-in-washington-dc-and-virginia-in-defense-of-the-constitution/

AHA! Found the other group. - Backwards Typist

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They are also made up of soldiers, etc. but if you go to "First Time Visitors" and click on Pledge, you can compare their oath to the other Oath Keepers.


http://www.realoathkeepers.org/

Again, I would point out that words or phrases (sm) - Nikki

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in different colors represent other sites and further substantiation of the article.  For example, clicking on the words "Second Amendment March" will take you to http://www.secondamendmentmarch.com/, where, among other things, you will see their 50K donation goal by April 8 didn't make it (yet) because, thankfully, they only raised $9,405.


If you click on the words "a recent profile," you will arrive at http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/03/oath-keepers, part of which follows:


Oath Keepers and the Age of Treason


Glenn Beck loves them. Tea Partiers court them. Congressmen listen to them. Meet the fast-growing "patriot" group that's recruiting soldiers to resist the Obama administration.



THE .50 CALIBER Bushmaster bolt action rifle is a serious weapon. The model that Pvt. 1st Class Lee Pray is saving up for has a 2,500-yard range and comes with a Mark IV scope and an easy-load magazine. When the 25-year-old drove me to a mall in Watertown, New York, near the Fort Drum Army base, he brought me to see it in its glass case—he visits it periodically, like a kid coveting something at the toy store. It'll take plenty of military paychecks to cover the $5,600 price tag, but he considers the Bushmaster essential in his preparations to take on the US government when it declares martial law.


His belief that that day is imminent has led Pray to a group called Oath Keepers, one of the fastest-growing "patriot" organizations on the right. Founded last April by Yale-educated lawyer and ex-Ron Paul aide Stewart Rhodes, the group has established itself as a hub in the sprawling anti-Obama movement that includes Tea Partiers, Birthers, and 912ers. Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, and Pat Buchanan have all sung its praises, and in December, a grassroots summit it helped organize drew such prominent guests as representatives Phil Gingrey and Paul Broun, both Georgia Republicans.


There are scores of patriot groups, but what makes Oath Keepers unique is that its core membership consists of men and women in uniform, including soldiers, police, and veterans. At regular ceremonies in every state, members reaffirm their official oaths of service, pledging to protect the Constitution—but then they go a step further, vowing to disobey "unconstitutional" orders from what they view as an increasingly tyrannical government.


Pray (who asked me to use his middle name rather than his first) and five fellow soldiers based at Fort Drum take this directive very seriously. In the belief that the government is already turning on its citizens, they are recruiting military buddies, stashing weapons, running drills, and outlining a plan of action. For years, they say, police and military have trained side by side in local anti-terrorism exercises around the nation. In September 2008, the Army began training the 3rd Infantry's 1st Brigade Combat Team to provide humanitarian aid following a domestic disaster or terror attack—and to help with crowd control and civil unrest if need be. (The ACLU has expressed concern about this deployment.) And some of Pray's comrades were guinea pigs for military-grade sonic weapons, only to see them used by Pittsburgh police against protesters last fall.


Most of the men's gripes revolve around policies that began under President Bush but didn't scare them so much at the time. "Too many conservatives relied on Bush's character and didn't pay attention," founder Rhodes told me. "Only now, with Obama, do they worry and see what has been done. I trusted Bush to only go after the terrorists. But what do you think can happen down the road when they say, 'I think you are a threat to the nation?'"


In Pray's estimate, it might not be long (months, perhaps a year) before President Obama finds some pretext—a pandemic, a natural disaster, a terror attack—to impose martial law, ban interstate travel, and begin detaining citizens en masse. One of his fellow Oath Keepers, a former infantryman, advised me to prepare a "bug out" bag with 39 items including gas masks, ammo, and water purification tablets, so that I'd be ready to go "when the shit hits the fan."


When it does, Pray and his buddies plan to go AWOL and make their way to their "fortified bunker"—the home of one comrade's parents in rural Idaho—where they've stocked survival gear, generators, food, and weapons. If it becomes necessary, they say, they will turn those guns against their fellow soldiers.


 


PRAY AND I DRIVE through a bleak landscape of fallow winter fields and strip malls in his blue Dodge Stratus as Drowning Pool's "Bodies"—a heavy metal song once used to torment Abu Ghraib detainees—plays on the stereo. Clad in an oversize black hoodie that hides his military physique, Pray sports an Army-issue buzz cut and is seriously inked (skulls, smoke, an eagle). His father kicked him out of the house at age 14. Two years later, after working jobs from construction to plumbing—"If it's blue collar, I've done it"—he tried to enlist. It wasn't long after 9/11, and he was hell-bent on revenge. The Army turned him down. Blaming the "THOR" tattooed across his fist, Pray tried to burn it off. On September 11, 2006, he approached the Army again and was accepted.


Now Pray is both a Birther and a Truther. He believes he is following an illegitimate, foreign-born president in a war on terror launched by a government plot—9/11. He admires soldiers like Army reservist Major Stefan Frederick Cook, who volunteered for a deployment last May and then sued to avoid it—claiming that Obama is not a natural-born citizen and is thus unfit for command. Pray himself had been eager to go to Iraq when his own unit deployed last June, but he smashed both knees falling from a crane rig and the injuries kept him stateside. In September, he was demoted from specialist to private first class—he'd been written up for bullshit infractions, he claims, after seeking help for a drinking problem. His job on base involves operating and maintaining heavy machinery; the day before we met, he and his fellow "undeployables" had attached a snowplow to a Humvee, their biggest assignment in a while. He spends idle hours at the now-quiet base researching the New World Order and conspiracies about swine flu quarantine camps—and doing his best to "wake up" other soldiers.


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You can find the rest of it, if you're interested, at the link that was already provided both here and in my original post.


There are some dangerous people out there, and I, for one, want to know who and where they are.  I don't want to wind up dead someday just because of my political beliefs.  I'm seriously afraid that another Civil War is brewing in this country, and I don't want any part of it.

Totally agree, Nikki~ nm - ASmom
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