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MSM jumps the gun again, starts rumors, then retracts

Posted: Jul 20, 2012

*UPDATE* ABC News Corrects... Editor's Note: An earlier ABC News broadcast report suggested that a Jim Holmes of a Colorado Tea Party organization might be the suspect, but that report was incorrect. ABC News and Brian Ross apologize for the mistake, and for disseminating that information before it was properly vetted.;

Yep - shooter 1st reported as tea-partier, - then nope - he's a registered democrat.

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Journalism at its best.

Does it matter? - nm

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Right, leave it to the pubs to try to - politicize another tragedy. NM

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Right, leave it to Dems to LIE about another tragedy - to smear Repubs at any cost-even murder

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Right, leave it to the pubs to try to - politicize another tragedy - AND THE DISCUSSION IS DEAD

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The discussion is dead? - Says who?

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Ask the poster that laid the liberal newscasters - lies at the feet of the Repubs

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From reading the whole thread, looks like this poster is consumed by hatred for anything Republican or conservative. That phrase "discussion is over" is what liberals use when they want to devert attention away from the liberal screw ups and lies. OP immediately took a tragic massacre and threw it up as the Repubiucans were politicizing the massacre when it was ABC, Brian Ross, George Step and other liberals that tried to hang this on the Tea Party...That is liberals using and politicizing tragedy at its worst; the end of the discussion meaning liberals were more interested in crucifying an innnocent man, then pursuing the truth. No discussion, just false accusations against an innocent man who had to go into hiding...Libs are getting expert at driving people into hiding. Ask Spike Lee from the Zimmerman case. Libs crucify and accuse innocents first, wait for someone else to get the facts straight and then blame it on Bush. Libs'justice looks like something from Nazi Germany.

WHAT!! You have it backwards. The DEMS tried - to smear the TEA Party... again! nm

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ABC was at fault not the "dems". nm - VTMT

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Yeah it matters, Dems/Libs jumped to - spin this against repubs

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Now it's come back to bite their behinds. Dems/Libs could not wait to try and pin this on the Tea Party because their own OWS are such degenerates and murderers. The only ones saying "does it matter" are those that care nothing for the truth and even less for honest journalism. Can only imagine the liberal hatred and hypocristy that would be posted all over this board if Fox News had done this. That man should sue every "news" station (and I use the term liberally) that put his name out there....My God, he was 52 and the shooter was 24...the idiot reporters were so consumed with their bias, they couldn't even pick a fake target in the right age group.

Shows you how twisted the Democrats have become - Dems put party over truth every time

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I am the one who posted "does it matter"? sm - VTMT

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It should not matter and should not be political. The dems/libs did not jump to accuse the TP or anyone else. A TV station reporter does not equate to party bias against the TP. Blame the TV station and complain to them if you have a problem instead of coming on here and creating a disturbance. These people are dead and injured not because of any political party but rather because of the the actions of a deranged person.

Don' t tell any poster what they can or cannot post - Liberal reporters on liberal stations

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Boradcast lies for the sole purpose of trying to engage the Tea Party in that massacre. It was done for no other opurpose than to try and drag the Tea Partyers into the OWS sewer. I listened to the entire audio - maybe you should.

You're entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts. I don't give a rats A __ __ what you think of my post and I CERTAINLY DO NOT TAKE ORDERS FROM you.

"Blame the TV station and complain to them if you have a problem instead of coming on here and creating a disturbance. These people are dead and injured" and the liberal press went after an innocent member of the Tea Party and tried to pin it on him. He has now had to diosconnect his phone due to threats on his life. It is a sick liberal common tactic - You don't like it, follow your own advice and write your socialist party leaders to get their lies under control.

I don't think that a reporter on ABC - sm

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is a socialist party leader. That is a pretty long reach to assume that he spoke for anyone. I watch CNN and sometimes Fox so I never heard any of these accusations. I am just sad for the injured and the families of the people who were killed. I could not care less what you post so get over yourself.

Get over "yourself" - Unless you are the poster - that wrote for the purpose of flaming

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If you can't follow the whole thread, contact the moderator for instructions. PIretty clear you aren't following the thread coherently based on your attempt to insult and lack of content in your post. That response was a direct quote from the OP, which was being responded to. That was HER suggestion. Nice try in stirring the pot. Now go tell your 2 friends their liberal tactics are not going to work. We are all aware of the games.

BTW - You have quite an inflated idea regarding your post. Follow your advice "and get over yourself"... Shouldn't be hard, pretty easy to step over an anthill.

The liberal press being anyone but Fox - I presume? nm

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The liberal press being anyone but Fox - I presume? - Reachy-Stretchy Show featuring "Presumie"

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Try not to explode with all the self-consuming hatred. No one mentioned Fox but YOU.

So, define the liberal press. - nm

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Are you Google search impaired? - Must be if you can't find liberal press

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Go to your search bar. Use google, Bing, yahoo, whatever search engine your prefer. Type in Liberal Press...Now hit enter. Low and behold....there will be many sources/articles/definitions/examples for you to pick from. Click on 1 or as many as you like. Read the definitions to educate yourself. Can you do that?

Third graders can easily handle that task. Will give you something to strive for :)

appreciate your rational post - nm

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Rational post, hardly, but - Thanks for the belly laugh!...

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WHO CARES????? sm - Anoni~

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A whack job is a whack job, no matter what political party, religion, nationality, etc they are.

Mentally ill people should not have access to firearms, period.

I'm sure there are those who will argue that checking health records before issuing permits or selling firearms violates privacy and the constitution, not to mention HIPPA, laws, but at what cost to the general public?

I'm a lib and not against owning or using firearms...responsibly. However, this should not be about political parties but plain old common sense!

That's almost as outrageous as.... - JTBB

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*** implying that 20 or so years ago the writer of Batman intentionally used the name Bane for the bad guy, knowing full well that one day Obama and *** would be going head to head for the presidency and there would be that darn 'ol shady Bain company lurking around.

That's almost as outrageous as.... - JTBB - Moderator - please read (message reported)

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Why is it okay for a few select posters like this one to post name calling towards a Republican, but Commie Obammis is removed? If Commie Obammie is removed, then this should be removed. I find this poster's name calling highly offensive. Libs and socialists do not get to edit or control what is on this board or decide what is offensive or not.

??? - I don't get it. nm

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Who cares if you get it - are you the Moderator? - ...

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I believe we are still allowed to express our opinions... - CTMT

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...although one can never be sure.

And the one you responded to - posted their opinion

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....or did they, one can never be sure...what tripe!

no, actually, it was not an opinion - it was a question

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Any of this ring a bell? - JTBB

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"KICK COMRADE OBAMA TO THE CURB - VOTE STRAIGHT REPUBLICAN 2012"

"Libs'justice looks like something from Nazi Germany."

"Dems/Libs could not wait to try and pin this on the Tea Party because their own OWS are such degenerates and murderers."

ding dong - CTMT

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It's just hilarious anymore. Of course, you will notice that some sad and sorry poster had to COPY your post and call it out to the moderator. Oh boo hoo.

My favorite of late: "...nothing fair about that, but the communists never say a word".

Ringing a bell - Thank God someone has it right

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on all counts.

KICK COMRADE OBAMA TO THE CURB - VOTE STRAIGHT REPUBLICAN 2012"

"Libs'justice looks like something from Nazi Germany."

"Dems/Libs could not wait to try and pin this on the Tea Party because their own OWS are such degenerates and murderers."

Still those with truth posting on this board.

Offensive name calling has been edited - Moderator

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Your point has been noted. I edited the offensive names.

I think you missed a few... - JTBB

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So, it's okay to call dems comrades, Nazis, degenerates and murders, but we dare not compare Romney to a noodle. Got it...that's called selective editing.

Agreed. - nm

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How about Etch-A-Sketch"? - nm

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Probably offensive to all those... - JTBB

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who have ever owned one or who have children who may have one....particularly offensive to child artists.

And yet up top in the message for all political posters it says "The topics on this board can be very inflammatory and sensitive. In general, you need to be able to control your emotions and develop a "thick skin" to get along on this board."...."We are not moderating the Politics board to make it a "nice" place to have "nice" discussions."

I guess the reference to noodles was just too much...lol.

Actually, Etch-A-Sketch, mittens and noodles - VTMT

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are pretty tame when compared to some of the names our president and his supporters have been called on this board.

I think quite clearly its not a matter - JTBB

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of the offense itself, but rather a matter of who is offended. I would almost give the moderator the benefit of the doubt and say that they were just trying to clear out the complaint box (which from this board I would assume is enormous) and just not paying attention and just getting it done. However, prior to the moderator editing I posted a reply that blatantly showed the hipocrasy of the complaint, which was completely ignored. Just sad.

you mean like calling Palin the "C" word? - sm

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I think politicians on both sides have been called nasty names. One side is no more tamer than the other. Remember John McCain and Palin? They were so brutalized by posters. Call the "C" and the "B" word. Then there is Bachman who a poster called her a "media whore". Obama is no worse than what republicans have been called.

Thick skin, people, thick skin.

I never saw anyone on this forum - sm

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use the "C" or "B" word when talking about Palin but have seen it used other forums. What is encountered beyond MTStars where moderation rules may be more relaxed is not the issue here. I would be interested to see the "media whore" post to determine whether that was a direct comment, if the poster was quoting someone else or if the phrase was embedded in an article.

spot on - nm

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I don't see the posts you are referring to - Moderator - sm

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I removed the posts that were calling republicans nazi's.

I don't see any calling individual posters degenerates or murderers (please post a link).

Comrades mean "friend" or "ally", so not sure what is offensive about that.

A poster was offended by calling Obama Commie Obammie, so I removed that.

A poster was offended by calling Romney Ramen Noodles so I removed that.

I don't know what post you are referring to, please post more information.

It's not selective editing, it's editing ALL posts that I'm getting emails from posters telling me they are offended.

Here's a helpful hint to all posters. If you don't like the person you support being called a name, then don't call the opponent a name.

NOTE TO MODERATOR - JTBB

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Here's the point. I personally don't care that the names I referred to have not been edited. I simply pointed them out to prove a point. I DO care that if one person finds one post offensive and complains then it is automatically edited. I understand that there is some amount of control necessary; however, micro-managing comments because of "sensitivity issues" is not the answer. We have all been advised that this IS a political forum and that feelings WILL get hurt. I've seen several posts from you stating things like "if you don't like it don't read it," you need a thick skin," etc. The standards you set really need to apply to all on this board if this is to be a fair discussion.

well said... - ctmt

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I appreciate your post, and I hope it is met with understanding and the same sense of fair play with which it was written.

I agree that to cater to the tastes of one poster over another is micromanaging, and I do not favor it. It breeds an atmosphere of "tit for tat" (as can be seen by posts that try to attract the moderator's attention, and almost always result in the respondent being arbitrarily edited or censured).

Point well taken. Message to ctmt too - Moderator

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Understand your point. It's not easy to make everyone happy. Everyone is writing to me telling them things offend them.

How about this as a compromise. Let posters write whatever they want to write about politicians. If someone wants to call someone Ramen Noodles or Commie Obammie I will not edit it out.

I really really really hate editing posts, but was trying to keep everyone happy. So lets let everyone express their opinions about politics. If posters attack another poster or use a cuss word I will edit that, but otherwise everyone can express how they feel without me having to edit.

Agreed - JTBB

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Thank you for your fairness.

agreed - ctmt

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thanks - sounds great.

a word, please, about selective editing... - ctmt

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I would kindly ask you to think about what you said: "It's not selective editing, it's editing ALL posts that I'm getting emails from...." This approach defines selective editing.

Before you disagree, please have a look at your remarks:

1) "Comrades mean 'friend' or 'ally', so not sure what is offensive about that", and 2) "a poster was offended by calling Romney Ramen Noodles so I removed that."

One would have to wonder why you did not simply explain that Ramen Noodles is a kind of Chinese food.

I have been edited and/or scolded for using the word "McCarthyism" in response to "communism" and "KKK" in response to "Imperial Wizard". If it weren't so absurd, it would be just plain disingenuous.

I agree, but I also think that the people who - oldtimer

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cuss and say generally uncivil things and disrupt the flow of conversation on the board just to stir the pot should be banned. It seems that things were a bit more civil lately, but the trouble makers seem to be posting again.

Moderator - glad to see Imperial Wizard - and Commie Obammie now acceptable

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Thank to the liberals, lefties and Dems. Got so caught up in their name calling, they opened the door for all of us. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

No they didn't. Ross specifically said JH registered in TP - might NOT be the suspect

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They truthfully reported there is a James Holmes in Aurora registered in the tea party and in the same sentence issued that disclaimer. Will wingers EVER stop taking stuff out of context and blowing it up into phoney rage based on false premise? They got their apology, even though one was not warranted.

Did he say there are over 20 - James Holmes in Aurora?

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Why specifically pick the one from the Tea Party, the one who is in his 50s and the shooter is 24? Politicizing, that's why, and looking to denigrate the Tea Party at every turn.

No, he did not state that convenient fact - he eventually admitted to

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Goggling James Holmes + Tea Party to come up with the innocent man's name, age, telephone, address. The libs were trolling for blood, just like the few on this board. They repeatedly stated the connection between the Tea Party and Holmes and very, very reluctantly and not very often said it "may" not be him AFTER stating that info repeatedly that it MAY be the killer, and he was on Facebook regarding the Tea Party.

So what? This report in question was aired - early this morning

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More than likely he didn't even have that information. It's a moot point anyway since he did not try to assert that the TP James Holmes is one in the same as the suspect. There is no there there, but if it somehow makes you feel better to insist that there is, knock yourself out.

"knock yourself out" (direct lib quote) - If the libs did, they would help us all

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The point is NO INFORMATION SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUT THERE THAT WAS NOT FACTUAL. PERIOD. END.OF.STORY. Too bad the libs have no common sense and could not understand the problems with putting out no-truths, and half-truths - but that's the lib stock in trade. The bigger the lie and distortion, the more they love to spin it.

Fox news puts out things all the time that .. - sm

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have not been verified, always looking to exploit the sensationalism in every story whether true or not. The difference is they don't admit their mistakes or even entertain the thought that they might be mistaken. Too bad.

Liberal usual standard bearer, attack Fox - Keep it up Maytag, use to your spin

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and hatred of anything not liberal. Same old tired liberal tactic. Libs do something stupid blame Fox...so yesterday. Sad part is, libs do so many stupid things, difficult to keep up with the spin...How do you do it?

Tell your spin to the man in hiding - with his phone disconnected

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Because of the Liberal "wingers" that took his personal information out of context. That what happens when liberal "wingers"fling S_ _T into fan; they end up with the stink all over them and rightly so.

No spin is called for. - Just stating an easily verifiable fact.

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Video is available for the doubting Thomases who would like to make this into something it's not. In the same breath he made it clear they could not say if the suspect was the same known TP guy who lives in Aurora. That simply does not rise to the level of ""blaming the tea party." As usual, this is just the plain old garden variety winger over-reach we have all come to except. Besides, IMO the whole line of thinking is fairly ridiculous.

There is nothing politically symbolic or significant about a Batman movie premier. When I heard this news and as I watched the coverage unfold, possible political motivations never even occurred to me. As the parent of an avid adult Batman fan, all I could think of is what a horrible tragedy it is for the parents and what a frightening and traumatic event this must be for those who survived the massacre.

That's not to say there aren't political elements to the event. I am sure there will be a brief and nonconsequential revival of the dialog on the assault weapons ban, but this somber day is not the day for that discussion. In fact, I personally have no interest in watching the ongoing MSM, cable or partisan media feeding frenzy, or reporters falling all over themselves trying to outdo each other, especially since it is so early in the investigation and they have nothing new to report except repeating the same bare bones facts over and over again. It's the kind of event that makes me want to drop everything I am doing to go visit my son, give him a hug, tell him how much I love him, and to join in prayer for those families and friends whose lives have been changed forever by this senseless act.

Blah, blah, blah - Come up for some air already

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Come back and post when you have something - intelligent to say. Bah! nm

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Only if YOU follow my lead, reachy-stretchy - Now post below me AGAIN, where your posts belong

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:)

Glenn Beck had a "breaking news" report - on Brian Ross

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Tongue in cheek of course, but you get the drift:

Paraphrasing:

"Oops. It might not have been THE Brian Ross from ABC. They didn't KNOW if it was the SAME Brian Ross from ABC. They were checking into it. They googled "Brian Ross and sexting girls" and up came the report. But it MIGHT NOT have been THE Brian Ross from ABC. Again, they did not KNOW for CERTAIN that it was THE Brian Ross from ABC. Etc., etc., etc."

Report was factual, there really was a - Brian Ross involved in that case,

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but the innuendos and rumormongoring represent exactly what Brian Ross did to the wrong James Holmes.

They should never have mentioned - Conservative

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Any person's name without the complete total facts. Why should any innocent person ever be put in danger because some screwball liberal anchor wants to beef up his sagging, pitiful ratings by using his hatred of the tea party to do it? You would think after all the lies that had to be walked back by the liberal media regarding Zimmerman, not to mention the innocent elderly couple's lives that were put in danger, they would have a light bulb go off and realize they need to do things better and different, based on truth, not their spin. Unfortunately, you see the same thing being employed all over this board; ignore any facts that put Obama in a bad light, but embrace and elevate any rumor, sans fact, that liberals think will destroy anyone with an opposing view.

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