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Posted: May 11, 2013

Go Trey go! We need more like this guy. Laser focus and no smoke and mirrors.

http://clashdaily.com/2013/05/benghazi-hearing-trey-gowdy-i-dont-give-a-damn-whose-careers-are-ruined/#ixzz2SxGzhqAQ

 

 

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Oh me too! He tells it like it is. - Proud Texan

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Yes, let's do talk about the truth about what happened. - Like WHO cut funding for security.

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Five facts about the Benghazi hearings and Obama U.S. embassy bombings



Republicans in the senate are holding hearings into the U.S. embassy bombings in Benghazi, Libya this week for the second time, trying again to turn the tragedy into a scandal for the Obama administration. But just how severe was the attack? And how often are U.S. embassies and overseas territories attacked in such fashion. The answers may surprise you particularly when it comes to why the defense efforts at such embassies haven’t been stepped up and who’s responsible for having just reduced the funding for embassy security. Here are five core facts about the Benghazi embassy attack and hearings:

Benghazi is one of two separate U.S. embassy attacks during Barack Obama’s presidency, with the other taking place in Turkey. But the two attacks during Obama’s first four years is a slowdown in the rate of such attacks, as eleven such attacks took place during the four years in which George W. Bush was president. Five such attacks took place during the presidency of Bill Clinton.

Hillary Clinton, who was Secretary of State at the time of the Benghazi attack, had already put in a request for additional funding to boost security at the Benghazi embassy. That request was shot down by republicans in congress.

Many of the republican senators who are holding the investigation into embassy security breakdowns this week are the same republican senators who spearheaded last month’s “sequester” spending cuts, which included millions of dollars cut from the embassy security budget.

The Benghazi attack resulted in the deaths of four American citizens, and is notable for having the largest American death toll of any foreign attack during Obama’s tenure. The deadliest terrorist attack during Bush’s tenure was 9/11 with approximately three thousand American deaths. The deadliest terrorist attack during the Clinton era was the USS Cole bombing, with seventeen American deaths.


Attacks of U.S. embassies, though fairly common, are generally not seen as an act of war. The attacks come not from the governments or militaries of the nations themselves, but instead from anti-government rebels and terrorists who are seeking to harm their nation’s relations with the United States. When a nation’s U.S. embassy is attacked, the typical response from that nation consists of an apology and an attempt to work with U.S. intelligence to track down the terrorists behind the attack. In the days after the Benghazi attack, the Libyan people identified the headquarters of the terrorist group responsible for the attack and burned it to the ground.


http://www.stableytimes.com/news/five-facts-about-the-benghazi-hearings-and-obama-u-s-embassy-bombings/





 


The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com


Libya attack: Congressmen casting blame voted to cut diplomatic security budget


Reps. Jason Chaffetz and Darrell Issa claim the Benghazi consulate sought more security before the deadly attack. They also both voted to cut the State Department's embassy security budget.






    Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R) of Utah (left) and House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R) of California, both claim the Benghazi consulate sought more security before the deadly Sept. 11 Libya attack, voted to cut the State Department's embassy security budget.
    (J. Scott Applewhite/AP/File)








By Staff writer
posted October 5, 2012 at 3:25 pm EDT



Who's to blame for the Sept. 11 attack on the US consulate in Benghazi?


If you believe Republican Congressman Jason Chaffetz, the answer is the State Department. He complained in an interview with The Daily Beast yesterday that US guards were replaced with Libyan nationals in the months before the attack.


"The fully trained Americans who can deal with a volatile situation were reduced in the six months leading up to the attacks," he told the website. "When you combine that with the lack of commitment to fortifying the physical facilities, you see a pattern.”


Mr. Chaffetz has been among those leading the Republican effort to pin the deaths of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi on the Obama administration. Earlier claims from Chaffetz and fellow Republican Congressman Darrell Issa that the administration ignored pleas for more security from Libya embassy officials should be treated with caution until there's some proof.


But it's certainly true that US embassy security is under strain around the world. Foreign nationals increasingly replace US citizens in everything from visa offices to security details. The new consulate in Benghazi, just over a year old, would have been particularly top-heavy with US nationals to start. Some reduction in US staffing was inevitable.


After I wrote a piece earlier this week about the political gain being sought from the deaths of Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi, a number of diplomatic acquaintances of mine emailed to say I should have looked at the State Department's security budget. Two of them had unprintable things to say about Congress.


Who can be blamed for that? Well, Chaffetz and Issa among others.


Since retaking control in 2010, House Republicans have aggressively cut spending at the State Department in general and embassy security in particular. Chaffetz and Issa and their colleagues voted to pay for far less security than the State Department requested in 2011 and again this year.



A bit rich


Is that responsible for the tragedy in Benghazi? Probably not, at least not entirely. Usually when security goes wrong, it's down to a cascade of small failures piling up. But it's a bit rich to complain about a lack of US security personnel at diplomatic missions on the one hand, while actively working to cut the budget to pay for US security personnel at diplomatic missions on the other. 


It would have been Ambassador Stevens' call as to whether he made that visit from Tripoli, with advice from his regional security adviser. If they thought there was a high likelihood of an attack, they wouldn't have gone. They sadly got it wrong. A glaring intelligence failure? A cavalier attitude towards security? Or simply bad luck, in a dangerous country that the US is eager to see stabilized? 


To be sure, the embassy security budget has been under the knife for years. “During both the latter years of the Bush presidency and throughout the Obama presidency, the administration has recommended boosting spending on foreign aid and [State Department] foreign operations, including security, and Congress has always cut it back,” Philip Crowley, a former State Department spokesman under President Obama, told the Washington Times in late September.


What's the gap between security budget requests from State and the actions of Congress?


Scott Lilly, who spent three decades as a senior staffer for Democrats in Congress, often working on budget matters, and now a fellow at the Center for American Progress in DC, says the cuts sought by Congress have been steep since the new House sat in 2011.


The Worldwide Security Protection program (WSP), which the government says provides "core funding for the protection of life, property, and information of the Department of State," and a separate embassy security and construction budget, which in part improves fortifications, have both been under fire.


"In 2011 they came in and passed a continuing resolution for the remainder of that fiscal year. The House proposed $70 million cut in the WSP and they proposed a $204 million cut in Embassy security," says Mr. Lilly. "Then the next year, fiscal 2012, they cut worldwide security by $145 million and embassy security by $376 million. This year's bill is the same thing all over again. The House has cut the worldwide security budget $149 million below the request."



Roughly 260 installations


That's not the actual budget – simply the negotiating position of Congress. The Senate and the President have sought more money than the House for embassy security, but the horse-trading means that the State Department ends up with less than it requested. For instance, in the fiscal 2012 budget, the cuts over the State Departments' request were "whittled back by the Senate," he says, to $109 million for WSP and $131 million for embassy security. 


"We've got something like 260 embassies and consulates around the world, and there's a remarkable number of them that aren't anywhere close to Inman standards and are still particularly dangerous," says Lilly. "Inman standards" refers to the report written by Admiral Bobby Ray Inman on US building security abroad after the 1983 Marine barracks bombing in Beirut that left 241 US troops and 58 French soldiers dead.


Nearly 30 years later, many US missions abroad don't meet the code. Lilly recalls traveling to TashkentUzbekistan, on a congressional delegation years ago and finding the embassy, in a crumbling old Soviet party building, cramped and nowhere near a safe offset from the road to guard against attacks. "They had file cabinets on landings of stairways because they had so little room, the building was barely five feet off the road," he  says. "It was so bad I got Bob Livingston, who was chairman of the appropriations committee at the time, to cancel an event and go look at it. He was so upset that he put an earmark in a bill to fix it."


I suggested to Lilly that if there weren't enough trained personnel for diplomatic protection in Libya, then maybe Stevens should have reined his operation in and done a lot less. Basically bow to the limitations.


He pushed back on that idea: "If the foreign service took that attitude, a hell of a lot less would get done. They know they're taking risks just by living in these places. They're pretty adventuresome and they've got to get out and do the job," he says. "Benghazi is a critical point in creating a stable environment in Libya, and Stevens knew he had to get out and work it."


To be sure, US missions abroad are much safer now than they were years ago, thanks to the Inman standards and a major overhaul of security measures after the 1998 Al Qaeda attacks on three US embassies in Africa.


Adam Serwer at Mother Jones wrote earlier this week on embassy security in a piece that has a chart on attacks on US diplomats going back to 1970. It shows that annual attacks have declined sharply since over 30 in 1991.



Not true. Charlene Lamb said it had nothing to do with (sm) - LM

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funding, but let's make believe for a minute that you're right. Did Hillary or Obama - KNOWING - because of 2 previous attacks - tell them to come home? IOW, "we don't have money allotted for security, so just come home." - or words to that effect - OR - "maybe I'll move some money from the monkey refuge we're funding and give you the security you obviously need." Those Damn republicans - you're asleep, wake up sheeple. Face facts. Your President and your wannabe woman for President are failures - and have no morals which makes them really low life.

what an astonishing grasp of international politics - "just come home" lol

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you're asleep, wake up sheeple. And please:

Leave these poor sick monkeys alone
They're sick, they've got problems enough as it is

-Think about it
(Flight of the Conchords)
I said "words to that effect." After attacks, British - brought theirs home. (sm)
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I'm not a diplomat. I just hate *******.
oh, well that changes everything - UK is not the US
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No one looks to the U.K. to maintain the balance of global power.

Meanwhile, I appreciate that you hid "pond scum" on the inside of your post. Who doesn't love a nice blind hip check.
Far more insight than you have - And yes "monkey" it is that simple
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**************** There have been times where embassies (yeah - USA, not UK ***************) did bring its people home for safety.
I was referring to LM's monkeys - (context fail)
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I posted a piece of lyric I found humorous, and which related to monkeys - a subject raised by the poster to whom I was responding.
What does this have to do with politics? - clarification please
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How can you Liberals defend these 2 pieces of ****? - I don't get it.

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nm

really insightful - thanks

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ROFL!! - NM
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Thanks for the TRUTH about this witch hunt. - sm

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If the REPUBLICANS would have granted the funding REQUESTED, Chris Stevens might still be alive.

This farce by the republicans is nothing but a political witch hunt, and their "sheeple" are falling for it.

agree - nm

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funding - meme

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The funding that was denied was FUTURE funding and it was denied by both dems and repubs because there was a surplus of money already for security.
Thank you. I knew that - guess I forgot! I get so aggravated. - LM
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So dems had nothing to do with $? dem controlled senate and Bambi?with it? - hazel
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If that lie were true the dems should have been after republicans to cough up. It is not true,just the latest dem talking points. With the billion dollars of our money Obama has spent campaigning and vacationing the last 4 years if he cared at all he would have done something. Hilary had to personally sign off because the compound was not safe. And the democrats had nothing to do with allowing 4 Americans to die? Whistle blower Hicks is a dem, voted for Obama 2008 and 2012. Think he would again?

You mean if HIllary had signed the papers requesting - that extra funding...

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Members of congress, both dem and repub, have all said no requests for additional funds were made by the state department. Guess they thought the jihadists provided by Libya were good enough for security.

They could have taken money away from the study - of shrimp on treadmills.

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Love him. - hazel

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He should primary Graham.

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