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We can pretend we don't know who/what did this...
Posted: Apr 16, 2010
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2010/04/photo_of_jindal_campaign_aide.html
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Just for conversation sake...who did it? - nm
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I'll converse with open minded common sense people.... - nm
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I meant no disrespect..I was just curious as to - sm
[ In Reply To ..]your thoughts about who did it. Obviously you have an opinion on who did or you wouldn't have posted what you did.
This is a big concern and should have received more media coverage than it has. I suspect that it hasn't because it happened to people associated with the republican party and the media isn't covering it just in case it is proven to be done by liberals. Just a thought.
So please share...who do you think was involved?
I have been following this story all week long - see message
[ In Reply To ..]There has been no media coverage about it except on conservative sites and in the Picayune over the past week. No suspects yet. Yes, this was a very vicious attack on this young couple, and they are in my prayers.
Unlike the leftists who would be screaming bloody murder if it were a dem aide, Jindal and other supporters chose to keep this under wraps and are letting the LEO do their work in finding out exactly what happened.
But you are right, if this happened to the dems, this would have been all over the LAMESTREAM MEDIA. Look what happened to the census worker, the leftists were quick to blame it on the RIGHT, when the guy committed suicide for insurance purposes.
Stay classy leftists hypocrites.
news coverage has been everywhere - anon
[ In Reply To ..]Just go to Google News, you'll see it everywhere, NOT just Conservative sites. Here's the Associated Press article from 2 days ago:
Oh thats funny..Was it on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC? - Nope, but you can "google".lol.nm
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My family members living there questioned why NONE of the - liberal channels aired this.....nm
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here's CBS reporting on it - anon
[ In Reply To ..]CBS:
Just be honest. If this was possible attack on a liberal, - it would be ALL OVER the liberal networks.
[ In Reply To ..]Instead, most people dont know anything about this story.
NBC - anon
[ In Reply To ..]Here's the local NBC affiliate. Note that the victims say they heard NOTHING that was political in what was being shouted at them before the attack:
"local" being the key word. Nationally, almost NO - coverage... at all.nm
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and Talking Points Memo's coverage - they are a LIBERAL blog - anon
[ In Reply To ..]TPM is a LIBERAL blog who has been reporting on this. Here's the link.
I will now leave you all to your lies.
You're comparing a 'blog' with national news? - nm
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Well, it's the sad truth of many on this board.... - sm
[ In Reply To ..]If you're not singing O's praises, then you must be this or that. They just don't care if this happened to someone leaving a republican event but they would have been ALL OVER THIS on the liberal news if this had been a democratic-based gathering.
The senseless beating of this lady (5 broken places in her leg!!) shows the brutality someone is willing to go to to commit a hate crime. Of course, that is what this is. There was no wallet/purse stolen, nothing taken from them, just beat senseless. I do feel this was politically motivated since witnesses said those doing the beating had made political slurs towards this couple.....
We like to pretend we don't know what is going on but we do. And we also know if this had been someone leaving a dem event, or more yet, a black person leaving one, jessie jackson and al sharpton would have been on this like white on rice, calling it a "hate crime". Well, if this isn't a hate crime, what is? I wonder where are those suckers.....why haven't they spoken out on this?!
I don't care to be so PC as to care what everyone else thinks. Wrong is wrong....
BTW.... I am an independent, so for all those that will jump all over this and started ranting about my being a republican, get over yourself.
Maybe it's because there is no evidence - ya think?
[ In Reply To ..]What in the world are you trying to do? No responsible news crew would report that something was politically motivated when there is yet no evidence that it was.
Why are you so hung on on trying to "prove" this didn't - happen.....sm
[ In Reply To ..]Regardless of who did it, this woman had 5 broken bones in ONE leg.... you don't seem to think that's a horrendous act of violence, regardless of who done it or for what reason. This is a hate crime any way you try to spin it. Anyone who beats the living daylights out of you, breaking your bones just for the senseless heck of it, and NEVER steals your money or takes anything from you is attacking you just for the pleasure....
What problem do you have with calling it a hate crime? Or is that too harsh too!
Why do you want to make things up? Lying to lay blame where you wish it - to be is not very
[ In Reply To ..]nice ya know. Nobody said it didn't happen GOT IT? DO YOU UNDERSTAND? There is no proof that it was politically motivated. If the investigation shows it was politically motivated THEN you can run with it all you like. But, what you are doing is un-American, and dishonest.
Your motivation for your posts has nothing to do with compassion for the people who were hurt. Anyone can see that you want it to have been politically motivated. You want it so badly that you are convicting without evidence, and now with this post you are saying that I'm trying to prove it didn't happen? And you are insisting it is a "hate" crime and feigning concern for the victims while you lay blame that has no foundation? Do you think people can't see through your pretense?
STAY ON TOPIC. NO ONE SAID IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. The point is NO ONE KNOWS WHO DID IT OR WHY YET. GET IT?
You know what they say about people who assume.
sad truth - celloman
[ In Reply To ..]I feel the sad truth is the fact that this is just the beginning of future events that will divide this country, just like many other countries, that are torn apart by political strife or religious cause. The door has been opened by our president to give every hardworking individul's stuff to those that may not be fortunate to have the desire or motivation to work, but would like to have what the hardworking people have.
omg - I hope you've never been on a - jury
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what? - anon
[ In Reply To ..]Are you implying that this was "official" work of some Democrats who are beating up Republicans? Really?!
Yes, I'm very sure that the entire Democratic party has nothing better to do than to stage a bar fight with a couple of low-level, unimportant Republican aides. And no one in New Orleans ever gets accosted outside bars late at night for no reason.
Well, I imagine you will now find a way to blame - Tea-party people instead, huh?
[ In Reply To ..]We dont yet know what happened exactly, but how nasty for you to say "couple of low-level unimportant Republican aides". Why say something like that?
"low level unimportant republicans"??? - Guess you think the violence is okay then
[ In Reply To ..]Violence is violence. It doesn't matter what political side the person who is doing the violence is on. It is wrong.
Your choice of words indicates you approve of the violence as long as it's happening to an "unimportant republican" (or any republican for that matter).
oh, that is SO true! I DO love violence! How did you know? - anon
[ In Reply To ..]Oh yes, I SO approve of violence. Isn't it obvious? Anyone who questions the implications of little Miss Linksalot up there who said "we all know who did this" must be a psychotic loon who wants all Republicans dead! I mean, it's so obvious.
You want to imply that Democrats beat up some Republicans late at night in New Orleans? Then tell us WHY, tell us WHO, give us MOTIVE.
Otherwise, you're just acting like fear mongering, lying, ignorant rubes, people who can't make a reasoned argument and who rely on implication, hyperbole, and false logic to try to make your point.
Well, your own comments sure dont help your own cause!.nm - GetReal
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what cause? - anon
[ In Reply To ..]Because you're so paranoid that Democrats are out to kill you, OP just has to vaguely imply that they were behind this terrible beating, and you believe it.
All I have to do is point out that these 2 people who were attacked aren't exactly prime targets for politically-motivated attacks, and you think I wanted them hurt. That's ridiculous! "Low level Republican" is in reference to their JOBS, not their worth as human beings!
The cause of the LEFT. You appear plain mean and disrespectful. - MN
[ In Reply To ..]But, I am not saying I am surprised.
don't hurt yourself jumping to conclusions - anon
[ In Reply To ..]If you think one anonymous person on MTStars speaks for the entire "Leftist cause", honey, you got problems none of us here can help you with.
Let's see, this thread is about (a) implying that Democrats beat up some Republicans, (b) that I, for questioning the logic of this, am a mean and violent and horrible person who (c) speaks for "THE LEFT" and is a typical representative thereof. Don't hurt yourself with these massive leaps of logic, dear.
So, what ya gonna do when the evidence shows - it was politically motivated?nm
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see the NBC link above - anonymous
[ In Reply To ..]The victims themselves say that no political comments were made to them in the attack, it's in the link above in the post called "NBC".
NBC!? ...well, there you have it! - witnesses to the contrary...
[ In Reply To ..]Bautchâs leg was broken and Brown incurred a broken jaw and nose as well as a concussion.
The Hayride reports that a source who visited Bautsch at the hospital the day after the attack says they were told the couple was attacked for wearing Palin buttons:
Two people at the Brennanâs event have now confirmed that the protest had largely broken up by the time it ended, but we also understand from someone who visited Allee Bautsch in the hospital Saturday morning that she and Brown were followed and attacked expressly because they had Palin pins on (she heard one of the attackers say âLetâs get them, they have Palin pins onâ â so the attack WAS politically motivated as its victims understood it. It was not a mugging, it was not an argument gone wrong and it was not a bar fight.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/21961
Brown himself said no political slurs were made - anonymous
[ In Reply To ..]I'm serious, read the NBC link above, one of the victims himself said there were no political slurs made before they were attacked. Why would he lie about that?
Doesn't mean there aren't witnesses to the contrary.... - sad nonetheless... nm
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very true, but it does call into doubt that this was political-nm - anon
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Wouldnt matter anyway since these people - were "unimportant" nm
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I already said "unimportant" is not in reference to their worth as humans - anon
[ In Reply To ..]"Unimportant" was in reference to their jobs (and the alleged motivation of Democrats seeking them out to harm them). It was no reference to their worth as human beings, and you know this.
The alleged motivation could have been simply that they were seen - as republicans.....nm
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Hate to break it to you - but you guys do it best
[ In Reply To ..]Your last paragraph said it all.
It wasn't for stealing/mugging purposes....nothing was taken - who do YOU think it happened?
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Seems it was politically motivated....I realize compassion is really - hard for some.....sm
[ In Reply To ..]http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/21961
Did you Read the UPDATE? NO Palin pins - involved
[ In Reply To ..]The update has been there since 4/13 and you didn't notice it? It makes the whole article moot.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/21961
Beaten for Wearing a Palin Button (Update)
By Bob Beers Tuesday, April 13, 2010
A cautionary note about the beating in New Orleans; Update: No Palin pins involved.
No mugging, no stealing.....what reason would they be - attacked? nm
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Who knows? I know I don't. Could be - anything
[ In Reply To ..]Could be something personal for all we know.
this is too funny - sm - anon
[ In Reply To ..]I can't believe the pins were debunked 3 days ago! Shows people believe what they want despite the truth.
Not even true... there are conflicting stories, not - that you would care.nm
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Shows violence is on both sides and inexusible no mattter what - nm
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That is horrible - Trigger Happy
[ In Reply To ..]However, there is no proof that the attackers where associated with the democratic party. We can make assumptions as much as we like as the victims were republicans....but still...I'd prefer to hold off any judgment until there are more facts to the story. Just my opinion though.
I agree, but what anon said above is sickening.nm - Fargo
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I think Anon's comments have been blown out of proportion - Trigger Happy
[ In Reply To ..]I took her comment as to mean why would the democrats go to such trouble to attack republicans who weren't higher up like a governor, senator, etc. Why would they go after these 2 people who were just aides. Anon, please let me know if I'm totally wrong about your comment...but that is how I took it. I think some of you are reading to much into it...but that is just my opinion.
I think the crime was horrible and the people should be charged with assault...but until we know who did it and whether or not they were associated with any political party or just your every day drunken thugs....I just don't comfortable pointing my finger at anyone until I know more facts.
Sorry, disagree. She just HAD to add the snide comments.nm - HappyDuck
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that's exactly what I meant, but... - anon
[ In Reply To ..]...but the whole point of this thread is to imply the Left/Liberals/Democrats are violent. So as soon as I said what I did, they jumped on it as "proof" that Liberals are violent people who want all Republicans dead.
That's all. They would have thought this way even if I hadn't responded.
Well...this happens on both sides. - Trigger Happy
[ In Reply To ..]The moment I say anything against Obama and this administration, my words are twisted and used against me to portray me as a tea partying, violent, racism who owns a gun. LOL. It does get ridiculous. Both sides are guilty though.
This is in regards to the attack in New Orleans - per police report
[ In Reply To ..]Per Michelle Malkin:
According to the police report:
âShortly before 10:30pm, Mr. Brown and Ms. Bautsch left the restaurant and began walking towards St. Louis. Street. Mr. Brown noted there were still several protestors loitering in the area, but not nearly the number which had been present earlier. Soon after leaving the restaurant, he heard what he described as âcat calls.â At an unknown point within the 400 block of Royal Street, both Mr. Brown and Ms. Bautsch then crossed from the Brennanâs side of the street to the Supreme Court side of the street. They continued to walk towards St. Louis when Mr. Brown began to hear people behind him scream obscenities. Initially he was not sure if thoese were being directed at him and his girlfriend, or if they were simply the outbursts of drunken revelers. As they neared the intersection, Mr. Brown stated he heard subjects state thing such as, âLittle blonde bitch,â âYouâre a fu**king faggot,â and âYou think youâre fu**king special.â At this point Mr. Brown realized these derogatory terms were being directed at Ms. Bautsch and him. He then requested she begin to walk faster toward the Omni-Royal hotel located at the intersection of St. Louis and Royal. Mr. Brown also recalled the farther they got from the restaurant, the closer these subjects got to them. When they reached the corner of St. Louis and Royal, Mr. Brown and his date turned south on St. Louis. It was at this time that one of the subjects pushed him into the iron gate which surrounds the State Supreme Court. He then fell to the ground, and one of the attackers got on top of him and began to attack him. Mr. Brown stated as he was being pushed to the ground, Ms. Bautsch was also either pushed down or fell down near where he was. As he fought to get his attacker off of him, he heard his girlfriend cry out in pain. She then repeatedly stated,âOh my god, my leg is broken.â
All of the attackers then ran away in an unknown direction. Mr. Brown then saw two uniformed Police Officers respond to their location. He requested they notify an ambulance as Ms. Bautsch was in obvious physical pain. The officers then did so. In response to Sergeant Gernonâs questions, Mr. Brown stated the majority of the protestors had left the area outside of Brennanâs about an hour prior to their leaving the restaurant. Additionally he was unsure if the attackers were the protestors. It should be noted that other than making reference to the victims being nicely dressed, along with other observations about their physical appearance, Mr. Brown did not hear them make any other comments.
This was a terrible crime in the crime-infested French Quarter. Your heart cannot help but go out to the victims after reading this description. They deserve non-partisan compassion and prayers for healing."
Per Michelle Malkin, "it doesnât help to insist on making this a partisan cause celebre and reducing the victims to political pawns when the evidence remains murky â and especially when one of the victims himself heard no politically-motivated taunts.
Save the ideological outrage for bona fide cases of politically motivated violence."
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Via Human Events, Bautschâs mother responds on Fox News:
BURNING: Honestly this is not a Republican or Democrat problem, this is a problem that a young girl and her boyfriend were attacked and the story hasnât really come out. And I just want to make sure that these guys are found. Thatâs the important part of this. There is accuracy in the story. I just think that yes when you do the investigation you do look at the people who were in the area at the time, to be able to bring the right people in for questioning. Thatâs the really important part.
If the police are doing the ground work and theyâre doing the investigation correctly then certain people are definitely going to be brought in.
KELLY: I know that theyâre looking at all of the people who were outside of the event at the time. Do you know, did your daughter get a good description of the people who attacked her?
BURNING: They were very average looking kids â not necessarily kids that you think would harm you. Thatâs their description of them, but Iâm not going to say that they looked like Republicans or Democrats. Iâm tired of everybody doing that."
H/T NOTE: Michelle Malkin stated about two to three days ago, there were no "Palin pins" and not to jump to conclusions. Some people might not agree with her, but she is one of my favorite Conservative women.
Why? Did the victims have time to ask the perps their political persuasion? - Or was it a crystal ball?
[ In Reply To ..]If anyone was standing around witnessing this and can identify the perpetrators as the evil "liberals" then why didn't they help these poor people instead of taking the perpetrator's political pulse?
THAT is what I would call reprehensible.
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