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Characterizing SP as the quintessential feminist
Posted: Jan 12, 2010
I have compiled a list of democratic women who have served in Congress to show just how absurd the notion asserted by the poster below is that we should relegate them all into her sweeping soft-on-Islam harem. I would like to give honorable mention to two of my favorite women democrats who have blazed trails in my state: Ann Richards, one of the most fascinating woman politicians I have ever encountered and, of course, Annise Parker, LGBT Mayor-Elect of my proud City of Houston.
Of note, while putting this together, I noticed that among Senators and House Reps, democratic women outnumbered republican women by a very, very wide margin, something on the order of 10-to-1. Maybe it has something to do with that woman’s place is in the home thingy.
Senators: Rebecca Felton, 1922, Hattie Caraway, Rose McConnell Long, Dixie Graves, Maurine Neuberger, Elaine Edwards, Muriel Humphrey, Maryon Allen, Jocelyn Burdick, Barbara Mikulski, Patty Murray, Carol Moseley, Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Barbara Jordan, Hillary Clinton, Blanche Lincoln, Claire McCaskill, Debbie Stabenow, Maria E. Cantwell, Kirsten Gillibrand, Mary Landrieu, Kay Hagan, Jeanne Shaheen, Amy Klobuchar.
US House Representatives: Mary Norton, Pearl Oldfield, Ruth Owen, Effiegene Wingo, Willa Eslick, Kathryn McCarthy, Firginia Jenckes, Isabella Greenway, Caroline O’Day, Non Wood, Elizabeth Gasque, Clara McMillan, Florence Biggs, Katharine Byron, Veronica Boland, Willa Fulmer, Emily Douglas, Helen Douglas, Chase Woodhouse, Helen Mankin, Eliza Pratt, Reva Bosone, Edna Kelly, Maude Elizabeth Kee, Vera Daerr Buchanan, Gracie Bowers Pfost, Leonor Kretzer Sullivan, Iris Blitch, Edith Starrett Green, Martha Griffiths, Coya Knutson, Kathryn E. Granahan, Julia Butler Hansen, Catherine Dorris Norrell, Corinne Boyd Riley, Charlotte Thompson Reid, Lera Millard Thomas, Shirley Chisholm, Bella Abzug, Ella Tambussi Grasso, Louise Day Hicks, Elizabeth Bullock Andrews, Yvonne Brathwaite Burke, Elizabeth Holtzman, Barbara Charline Jordan, Patricia Nell Scott Schroeder, Corinne Boggs, Cardiss Collins, Martha Elizabeth Keys, Marilyn Lloyd, Helen Stevenson Meyner Gladys Noon Spellman, Barbara Ann Mikulski, Mary Rose Oakar, Beverly Byron, Geraldine Ferraro, Barbara Kennelly, Jean Ashbrook, Katie Beatrice Hall, Barbara Boxer, Marcia Kaptur, Sala Burton, Catherine S. Long, Constance A. Morella, Elizabeth J. Patterson, Louise M. Slaughter, Nancy Pelosi,( Nita M. Lowey, Jolene Unsoeld, Jill Long, Barbara-Rose Collins, Rosa L. DeLauro, Joan Kelly Horn, Eleanor Holmes Norton, Maxine Waters, Eva Clayton, Corinne Brown, Leslie Byrne, Maria Cantwell, Pat Danner, Karan English, Anna G. Eshoo, Elizabeth Furse, Jane Harman, Eddie Bernice Johnson , Blanche Lincoln, Carolyn B. Maloney, Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky, Cynthia McKinney, Carrie P. Meek, Deborah Pryce, Lucille Roybal-Allard, Lynn Schenk, Karen Shepherd, Karen Thurman, Nydia M. Velázquez, Lynn Woolsey, Barbara Cubin, Sheila Jackson-Lee, Zoe Lofgren, Karen McCarthy, Lynn Rivers, Juanita Millender-McDonald, Julia Carson, Donna M.C. Christensen, Diana DeGette, Darlene Hooley, Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Carolyn McCarthy, Loretta Sanchez, Debbie Stabenow, Ellen Tauscher, Lois Capps, Barbara Lee, Tammy Baldwin, Shelley Berkley, Stephanie Tubbs Jones, Grace Napolitano, Janice Schakowsky, Susan A. Davis, Betty McCollum, Hilda Solis, Diane Watson, Madeleine Bordallo, Denise Majette, Linda Sanchez, Stephanie Herseth Sandlin, Melissa Bean, Gwen Moore, Allyson Schwartz, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Doris Matsui, Nancy Boyda, Kathy Castor, Yvette Clarke, Gabrielle Giffords, Kirsten Gillibrand. Mazie K. Hirono, Carol Shea-Porter, Betty Sutton, Laura Richardson, Niki Tsongas, Jackie Speier, Donna Edwards, Marcia Fudge, Kathy Dahlkemper, Debbie Halvorson, Mary Jo Kilroy, Ann Kirkpatrick, Suzanne Kosmas Betsy Markey, Chellie Pingree, Dina Titus and Judy Chu.
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Thanks, TXMT. The post you are responding to - Colleen
[ In Reply To ..]was one of more off-the-wall, not even close, nutso posts I have seen here. Not THE worst, but up there for sure. When I read it, all I could really do was shake my head at how far off this person was.
Your post is okay, but..... - just me
[ In Reply To ..]I'm not sure of the meaning of it. It's just a mass of names to me. I don't know these women have done or what their standpoints are except for a few of the obnoxious, self-serving ones like Clinton, Boxer, Pelosi.
Can you explain why you posted this. It's a good list to be able to research who they are, but not sure why I would want to. Also can you explain what you mean by the womans place in the home statement. I don't know of too many women politicians who feel that way, no matter what party they are in. I thought those were long-ago opinion that have kind of vanished when Gloria Steinem surfaced some 40 years ago.
Just would like to know why you posted this.
Good question. I wondered the same thing.nm - mtt22
[ In Reply To ..]nm
I believe it was in response to post entitled - Go Sarah - TM4SP sm
[ In Reply To ..]Posted: Jan 11th, 2010 - 5:07 pm In Reply to: Palin to get on-the-job training from Fox News - TXMT
"Liberal feminists hate Conservative women because they are something that liberal women will never be, for example, independent thinkers and doers that have gotten where they are through hard work rather then on the coattails of some man. That is why liberal women hate Sarah Palin. She went from the school board to small town mayor to governor without the help of a man and while she managed her family. In addition most liberal women are actually quite submissive. They cluster around strong male characters and behave like they are in a harem. It is no coincidence that leftwing feminists have a soft spot for Islam."
I am not responding in place of TXMT, but I believe this is the post it originated from. TXMT, if I am incorrect, please feel free to let me know. I just thought this was a ludicrous post as well and it stuck out in my mind for that reason.
Is that what you really think about - just me
[ In Reply To ..]conservative women? That the only way they have gotten where they are is "on the coattails of some man"? Oh my gosh! That is so left-leaning slanted and so wrong. That would be the same as saying every conservative owns slaves. It's a ludicrous statement. Women in politics no matter what political party they belong to have worked their butts off to get where they are.
If you don't like Sarah Palin that is fine. She is not a very well liked woman in this country for whatever reasons, but she has worked hard through her life. Just like Hillary Clinton, and some other prominent women in politics. And if you are going to say Palin got where she is because of a man, then you have to say Hillary got where she is because of a man.
I don't mean to argue here and I'm certainly not bashing or cutting you down for your opinions, but in my own opinion, that's all they are (yes we all have opinions). I think ALL women in politics have worked hard to get where they are. Not just democrat women...ALL women.
I do agree with you on one thing...there are many ludicrous posts. I really don't have any feelings about Sarah Palin one way or the other. I don't love her and I don't hate her. I didn't want her as VP, but now looking at what is in there, and the direction they are taking the country, I sometimes second guess what I first thought about her. She's said some "strange" things in the past, but then again so has Biden and even Obama.
I do feel sorry for all the people who feel good by bashing her. Think there is just so much more going on in politics than Sarah Palin.
Personally, my issue was not with any comment - regarding conservative women
[ In Reply To ..]My issue was with the comment that "liberal woman hate conservative women" (which is ludicrous in and of itself) because they are something that liberal women will never be, for example, independent thinkers and doers" but in particular "most liberal women are actually quite submissive. They cluster around strong male characters and behave like they are in a harem. It is no coincidence that leftwing feminists have a soft spot for Islam." Comparing liberal women to a harem??? The poster above I think was trying to point out that there were more women dems in positions of political power than repulicans. Again, please correct me, TXMT if I am wrong. Either way, that harem comparison is a ludicrous and offensive statement. You might want to look for the original post and read the thing in its entirety.
Personally, I don't care about Sarah Palin one way or the other, except from the standpoint that I am glad she is not a member of my party. That is a statement about this particular woman, not conservative women in general, unlike the post you were asking about.
Thanks for the reply - I was wondering - just me
[ In Reply To ..]I didn't put the two and two together with that statements you were talking about, and now I see what you mean.
I'm like you. I think there are a lot of people who don't care about Palin. Too much more going on in life. Since I don't below to any party that doesn't affect me either. I've come to realize it's all the same people running the different parties (the $$$$$$$ people run the parties - just a different talking head). It is very said that people have so much hatred for her that they have to make comments like "precious Sarah". Oh well, to each their own.
Thanks for replying. I understand your post now.
Well, I am glad PELOSI is not a member of MY - Party. My God.. She is
[ In Reply To ..]the biggest phony I have ever seen and it's a shame she represents any women. Just watch her speak. She is lying through her teeth about every other sentence. Uggh..
As a dem, I am not crazy about her. Liked her - at first but am not so sure
[ In Reply To ..]now. I don't think it is a shame she represents women, I just think she is too much of a typical politician of any party or gender.
Agree!! - nm
[ In Reply To ..]xx
You misread her post. This garbage was said about - liberal women, not precious Sarah. nm
[ In Reply To ..]nm
Yes. That's the one. Thanks. nm - TXMT
[ In Reply To ..]nm
Then it could have just been posted as reply to THAT - instead starting a new thread.
[ In Reply To ..]Guess anything to start a new argument.. lol
OK, here goes. - TXMT
[ In Reply To ..]Below you will find a post entitled Go Sarah - TM4SP to which 4 replies appear. Further on down you will find How many states are there? - You are too funny. To me, they sound like they are the same person. There are also a few others which try to advance the O'Palin clan's ideal of the REAL feminist, the ridiculous notion that liberal women are jealous of her, disparaging remarks about democratic women gaining their power on the coattails of men and descriptions of them as being part of a harem that is soft on Islam.
Clearly, these remarks have no basis in reality and serve no other purpose but to inflame and offend. I felt that instead of trying to address these smears directly, a simple comprehensive list, a show of numbers as it tuned out, would go a long way in showing just how preposterous these remarks are, particularly in view of the historical context that belies the soft-on-Islam dig, considering the majority of them predate 9/11.
Because of the nasty innuendoes embedded in the original posts with regard to feminism, I made the observation about the 10-to-1 margin between women democrats and women republicans, which I inadvertently discovered while putting the list together. No one could have been more surprised to discover this than I was.
Typically, when answering posts that show this degree of disprespect, I respond in kind and that is where the "woman's place is in the home" comment came from. I do not for one moment mean to belittle the contributions republican women who have served in Congress have made, both to the advancement of the country and to the sature of their gender.
What I did intend was to show that SP, when stacked up against all these accomplished women, pales in comparison, IMHO. Also, I would like to draw attention to a very qualified and prestiged current-day republican woman who could TRULY give a democrat opponent a run for his or her money, whom the conservatives repeatedly overlook in favor of Palin...that woman being Kay Bailey Hutchson. Fortunately (for my side, the dems) she will be resigning from the Senate in March to return to Texas and launch a brave and bold challenge for the nomination against the incumbent republican Governor Rick Perry, who too has gone off the deep end lately with his embarassing and crazed seccession of Texas from the Union delusions of grandeur. If a dem cannot seize it from him, I hope Kay Bailey Hutcison will succeed in unseating this maniac.
I would like to add that Hutchison is taking quite an impressive career gamble, which by my read is based in her deeply-held principles, in an attempt to take the Texas Republican Party back toward its more rational center. I will conclude by saying that the republican party has missed a great opportunity to vet a truly formidable female in 2012.
Thanks for the post - I like K.B. Hutchinson too - just me
[ In Reply To ..]She's one smart lady and really seems to have a good head on her shoulders. I don't know her viewpoints item by item, but I have heard her interviewed and speak before and I liked what she had to say. Hope she wins. I understand that Rick Perry is as you say "gone off the deep end" (kind of like the current congress) LOL.
I have paid very little attention to her of late. - I know that she had a rep
[ In Reply To ..]of being ultra-conservative. Is she somewhat more moderate now?
KBH has been active in politics since 1972, so - TXMT
[ In Reply To ..]what may have been ultra-conservative in days past has now become "left of center" for some of the more radical wings of the GOP! LOL.
That is true! LOL! I will have to read up on her - again and see if I agree with
[ In Reply To ..]her about anything now. Anything is possible!
LOL! You've got that right! (sm) - Nikki
[ In Reply To ..]I haven't moved in my political thinking, but the "right" is moving so much further RIGHT, that sometimes I feel like I'm being followed. 
I like Hutchinson - nm
[ In Reply To ..]If she succeeds, one does wonder if she will be the next female Texecutioner like Ann Richards was. Hopefully not.
If she was a Dem, she would get a free pass - Go Figure
[ In Reply To ..]NM
The Texecutioner was the shrub, a whopping 154 - sm
[ In Reply To ..]executions...more than 3 times as many when compared to Ann Richards measley 48 in the same number of years!
I don't agree with Hutchinson politically, but (sm) - Nikki
[ In Reply To ..]she truly is a trailblazer (like Ann Richards) and could never, IMHO, be placed in the same category as Sarah Palin.
Even though I don't agree with her politics, I have a lot of respect for her.
That is precisely my opinion of her as well. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]and when comparing her to Governor Perry, she would be a considerable improvement.
I am not the name police, but just so you know, - her last name is Hutchison
[ In Reply To ..]not Hutchinson. (No N in the middle) I always notice this because my last name is the same as hers and I am forever having to correct people when they look us up in computers and such.
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