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Can of worms


Posted: Mar 8, 2012

One day after Obama signed health care reform into law, Bob McDonnell signed the Virginia Health Care Freedom Act (link #1).  Its purpose is to protect "ALL Virginians from having to pay for health care they don’t need, want or can’t afford.”  On March 7, McDonnell directly contradicted himself when he signed his own health care mandate that dictates to women what medical procedures they need and forces them to pay for them, whether they like it or not. 

Doesn't this imply that the governor is breaking his own law? How is it possible that those two statutes coexist in the same set of state laws?  Does one of them carry more weight than the other?  If so, which one trumps the other?  How can this withstand a court challenge ANYWHERE in the country? I have to wonder how anyone could argue this is not hypocrisy on steroids?  How can any rational citizen avoid drawing the conclusion that women in Virginia are excluded from the same protection being afforded all MALE Virginians under the Virginia Health Care Freedom Act? 

The mandate is also in direct conflict with the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists guidelines which clearly state that any type of ultrasound performed to view the fetus or to determine its gender is contrary to responsible medical practice, despite what VA legislators and the governor have decided is appropriate.  It specifically states the purpose of the scan is to determine gestational age, in direct defiance of ACOG guidelines, which also establish that the use of ultrasounds is a decision to be made by the “physician or medical physicist” on a case-by-case basis.  Neither state legislatures nor governors are mentioned anywhere in those guidelines, so one has to believe they have taken it upon themselves to PLAY doctor instead and to deliberately institute unsound medical practices, regardless of any potential consequences.  By the way, ACOG restricts the use of ultrasounds based on safety considerations for both the mother and fetus.    

This information raises a few more questions.  Can a state be sued for malpractice?  Can they issue licenses to practice medicine to themselves?  Can they be prosecuted for practicing medicine without a license? 

If it looks like can of worms, smells like a can of worms and slithers like a can of worms....it's probably a can of worms. 

http://www.vc4l.com/downloads/VirginiaHealthcareFreedomAct.pdf

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/03/08/virginias-pre-abortion-ultrasound-law-medically-unsound-violates-guidelines-of-american-college-of-obstetricians-and-gynecologists/

 

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Misogyny fans don't do hard questions. - sm

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It would be interesting to see the GOP nominee respond to those points in the presidential debate. I doubt there is anybody brave enough on this board to reply. They are still too busy insulting Sandra Fluke and spinning conspiracy theories. Typical.

too much coffee? - goldie

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Ouch - what's with the all the sour notes this morning?

First of all, I resent your post suggesting "misogyny fans don't do hard questions" and the very next line being "....GOP nominee... and anybody brave on this board..."  Insinuating that anyone here on this board is a fan of misogyny is nasty and totally out of line.  You know it's not true, so stop the bullying.  It's not helping your cause.

As far as being "brave" to reply on the board, that's also pretty insulting, don't you think?  I can't speak for others, but if you want to see my bold and brave response to this issue, look waaay below sometime last week or so when this was a hot topic on this board.  I'm not going to repeat myself in this post. 


In a nutshell, unlike many die-hard liberals, I'm not a party-line type of voter.  I vote my own convictions, not those of my party.  And unlike liberals, I have (many times) criticized politicians on both sides.  Don't get me started on crazy Gov. Haley Barbour.  Whether you want to believe it or not, there is stupidity on both sides of the political aisle. 

I would also like to hear the GOP nominee response to this.  I think it would be entertaining, to say the least, to listen to a libertarian like Paul take on this issue.  


So, you have a nice afternoon and try not to get too stressed out. 


By the way, I won't be responding to your posts any longer as long as they are filled with insults.  It's a waste of my precious time and others on the board who want to actually discuss issues in a civil manner.  


 

I stopped responding to poster too, Goldie - Conservative

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This OP cannot seem to get past hate and insults. You can get all the hate in insults waiting in line for Obama gold (gas)...LOL

Good points - Conservative

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Really worth a closer look at that law. Thank you for posting this, and I personally appreciate the class with which you stated your case. So seldom see that on this board. Post is food for thought surely, and will be watching to see what else you may post in regards to this....thanks again!

I was astonished when I ran across this article. - Becuse VA is on of those states

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where women reps and senators are introducing protest men's health initiatives, I thought it might be interesting to research the other states where this is taking place to see if they too have any contradictory statutes. I think I heard on the news last night there are 12 of them so far, but the only ones I know about are VA, IL, TX, FL, MO and GA, where all the women lawmkers walked off the job yesterday in sheer frustration, poor things! Hopefully I will stumble upon the other six (I think PA my be one of them) this afternoon while cruising the information highway. If you happen to know any of the others, please post. I suspect VA is not the only one where these laws are butting heads, and my gut is telling me TX probably will be facing the same legal dilemmas developing in VA.

I just spent the entire morning waiting for Xfinity/Comcast to figure out how to deal with ionized particle interference from Mother Nature's special gift of solar flare storms which may have knocked out cable, net and phone service this morning where I live....plunging an entire swath of my state back into the pretechno era at the dawn of time. These are certainly interesting times we live in, to be sure!

Anyway, I appreciate your post and will put up any additional information as it surfaces, now that I am operating in ye olde familiar Windows environment, rather than being forced to use that new-fangled 4G contraption where my text typing skills never progressed beyond the single-digit pecking stage. Looking forward to your feedback on this issue, which I think is going to be rather fascinating to watch unfold.

Have not located anything yet - Conservative

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I have not seen anything for my state(PA), but want to check it out further since it was one you mentioned. I have been slammed with work lately; so, my time has been very limited. Hopefully, over the weekend, I will be able to check into this. There has not been anything on our local and area news about this. Thanks again!