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No looting in Napa?
Posted: Aug 26, 2014
Imagine that. A declared disaster and no looting and burning? I wonder why?
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And here you are again - Moderator deleted the other one I guess
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Please stop with the facile comparisons.
I'd personally be volunteering to help clean up... - Lush
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and I'd bring a sponge to help wipe up the mess and I'd be wringing it out into my mouth so as to help not contaminate mother earth, so I'd be going green as well as being a kind-hearted volunteer!
I know right! All that Special Reserve! - OP
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Sure is a cute little town.
What are you talking about? Just an observation. - Very curious as to why
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one neighborhood would act so civilized in the face of a declared disaster while others loot and pillage. Any input? Anyone?
I am talking about you started this on - the politics page
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And it is now gone, as it descended into what you might expect from Fox News watchers. Race baiting and prejudice.
Sorry, wasn't me. I'm not race baiting either. - Just curious that's all.
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Wondering why? Who said anything about race? Wow. Now why would you suggest race? Perhaps is geographical or maybe something in the water?
I think you have it backwards. - This is all I'm going to say.
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The "race baiting and prejudice" come from MSNBC, not FOX News. Al Sharpton is the biggest fanner of race flames on this planet followed by Jesse Jackson.
On a separate note, I am just amazed at the slams at FOX News. The liberals must really be afraid of fair and balanced news, too afraid that the real truth will come out and that they can't handle it.
Goodbye. Have a nice day.
The real truth could not come out soon enough - about Ferguson MO
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I wonder what's holding it up? Not MSNBC, that's for sure, or Al Sharpton. Officer trigger happy and his supporters, the KKK and Fox News, more likely.
Is this more right wing whining? - sm
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I'm going to start pointing this out constantly because the right is getting accused of it when it's actually the left doing all the whining.
As for your question, I guess it's just plain out jurisprudence, but that would be the truth and you want no part of that, right?
You need to take jurisprudence out of that post - sm
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It is through jurisprudence, the study and theory of law, that we, as a nation, have determined that punishment for crimes is meted out by the courts, not a police officer on the street. So, yeah. Your post is just more right-wing whining.
so you are saying... - Life is not fair
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So you are saying that the officer was executing punishment?
HOW do you know this?
Do you know if that boy was surrendering?
Do you know if that boy feared for his life?
Do you know if the officer feared for his life?
Do you know if that boy acted aggressively towards the officer?
No, you don't. So why don't you wait until the investigation is complete--that is how the law works.
I know one thing-he was NOT taught to respect authority.
yes, the officer dispensed punishment - sm
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That's the point, isn't it? Whether the officer's actions are deemed reasonable remains to be seen. But yes, dear, the officer meted out punishment for a noncapital crime.
You are 100% correct in everything you wrote. - AND we need to wait until facts are known.
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Left loves to whine and accuse. I'm sick of it.
What in the world are you talking about? - There are many disasters
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There was Katrina, the earthquake in SF, the one in southern California. There are many disasters throughout the country of different kinds. Disasters affect more than just one specific race. Her question of why there was no looting has nothing to do with race, but more in the way of how a human being conducts themselves. Napa thankfully has many decent and upstanding citizens that don't do that.
Her post was gone from the political page because it was not political. Talking about a disaster in Napa is a gab item. Many races, many ages, many men, women and children affected.
You are trying to race bait on a topic that has nothing to do with race.
She wondered why there wasn't looting - that's why
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And where have we had looting, and why? And what is the difference between the two communities?
Why not just wonder how everyone/anyone is doing in Napa, that's "talking about a disaster in Napa" as you put it, that's Gab. In fact, that would actually be nice.
Why the emphasis on looting? That's trying to draw an unflattering comparison and that's the only reason it was there, just like yesterday, when it WAS on the politics board.
There is nothing so repugnant as this particular sly innuendo. It is extremely political IMHO, and just plain not very nice.
No, you're not in the least bit "curious". You're - just trying to start another argument.
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You are rude and you don't know that poster - I find her observation interesting
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Not an argument, a simple fact.
here's some input for you - sm
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First of all, an earthquake is a natural disaster, not a human rights issue. An earthquake did not take place in Ferguson. A human rights disaster took place in Ferguson in the form of an unarmed youth being shot be law enforcement. This was followed by yet another human rights disaster for which an Amnesty International delegation was sent to Ferguson in order to observe police and protester activity with respect to military tactics and the right of free assembly.
Earthquakes do not have to answer to human rights violations. Law enforcement does. It's a pity your bias allows you to be so easily swayed when the comparison is so obviously jejune.
Maybe because there are no Southern PO-lice - gunning kids down in the streets?
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Not a race issue - A respect issue
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The reason has nothing to do with race, justice, fairness, economics...it has to do with respect.
No one knows for sure what happened to that young man, but to think that it is okay to react the way that town did is unconscionable. The looters and protesters created TERROR in that town, the same as the TERRORISTs who threaten our country--only they were already on the inside. There is no excuse or explanation or justification for it...it is just plain WRONG.
The distrust of the police and disrespect for authority creates a sad state of affairs in this country.
It is not a race issue, it is a matter of taking responsibility for your actions, being respectful of others and tolerance for people who are different than you....and this is not being taught by children who are having children.
The only way to "fix" America is to put the family back together.
So really, you're not the same one? - This is exactly what you said yesterday
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And it is the same malarkey.
What you are saying (with an awful lot of buzz words and right wing talking points sprinkled in) is that the police officer, the property of the people who owned the shops, etc., they all deserved respect.
But Michael Brown did not.
I ain't buying it. The Terrorists in this scenario were those who manned the tanks and aimed their guns at peaceful protesters, as well as officer trigger happy who killed an unarmed teenager.
I, a different poster, said basically the same thing yesterday. - You people need to keep your facts straight.
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This is proof positive of how the facts need to be known before rushing to judgment.
My comment yesterday was something like a socioeconomic situation should not have any bearing on common decency.
So basically, yeah, - the same thing
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I should get MY facts straight, really? First of all they are NOT facts, they ARE talking points, and the reason they sound exactly alike is because you all get them from the same place, be it Rush, Alex Jones, Fox, take your pick.
Here's a thought. I couldn't care which one of you spouted off the talking points, they sound exactly alike to me.
You were just trying to point out that the rich white neighborhood didn't riot and the poor black one did, completely ignoring the reason behind Ferguson MO, of course.
I am not the one rushing to judgment, you are. Of the wrong people. I just asked you to try to put yourselves in the shoes of someone whose son lie there for 4 hours like an animal, which you find yourself incapable, because supposedly he deserved it and your son would not.
White privilege in a nutshell. And still a bunch of malarkey.
And yet you're calling us "you people". - Uh-huh....
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What should you be called? You're people, aren't you? - sm
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I am now convinced that no matter what anyone says, you people or you whatever-you-would-like-to-be-called will NOT be satisfied. You just want to argue for the sake of argument and you just want to pick apart and dissect every word written. Bye.
So, to all of those who clicked dislike for this post... - Dangit
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The sort of behavior that exploded in Ferguson is acceptable to you? This poster stated, rightly so, it is NOT a race issue but rather one of poor upbringing and a lack of respect and values. To me, the only people bringing the issue of race into this are the liberals. No real answer has been found as of yet in this case, however, liberals already have Mr. Wilson charged and hung. No one knows who wasn't immediately there to witness what happened - and to prejudge is not only immoral but moronic.
Let's see hou you all justify this - my questionis - Why do they hate us so much?
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http://www.today.com/news/police-forney-texas-apologize-mom-kids-pulled-over-gunpoint-1D80101134
Pretty sure the reason is crystal clear! - Dangit
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I see some of you at least got it right. - OP
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The reason for no looting is quite simple - RESPECT. A proper upbringing that includes respect of others regardless of their color or social status makes all the difference. Respect for authority, business owners, etc. all begins in the home.
So the policeman deserved respect - yet the teenager did not?
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That's what you're saying here. You are basically saying not respecting a police officer deserves a death sentence, right?
The officer is guilty of not RESPECTING Michael Brown, in fact, disrespecting him so much that he felt justified in shooting him because he felt disrespected himself, so what say you to that?
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