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Has anyone ever used a micdrodermabrasion product
Posted: Dec 7, 2013
I'm at a point in my life (in my 50s) that I'm tired of looking "ragged" and needing to improve myself. I have large pores on parts of my face, a few adult acne (ughs! Like it wasn't bad enough as a teenager), when I look up close at my face it looks like I've left makeup on for years (which I have not worn makeup since 2004, so am assuming it is dead skin - eeks!) and my skin tone is uneven. Been watching all these videos of how to improve my skin, get an even tone, shrink my pores and I've found something called a microdermabrasion system. Was wondering if anyone has ever tried one and their opinions.
Been washing my face with a gentle cleanser that I love the feel and smell of, but it's not doing the trick. Sure my face feels great and the moisturizer is like satin and smells great, but about 1/2 hour or so later my face goes back to looking like it was never washed.
So wonder if anyone has tried something like a microdermabrasion and their opininions or any beauty secrets you would like to share. 2004 was the last time I wore makeup. I feel like I have to learn beauty tips all over again. I'm tired of sitting here looking like frump girl.
I welcome any and all responses.
Thanks,
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I liked something called CeraVe - wheres_my_job
[ In Reply To ..]Getting enough sleep helps A LOT - my friend told me about something called CeraVe - you can do a search for it. But I liked it. That's all I know about. I was using it then I ran out of it AND money - maybe now I can start using it again, I've got a little bit of money.
I don't know anything about dermabrasion, maybe someone else knows.
I love Cerave. I use the a.m. with the SPF of - Cerave lover
[ In Reply To ..]30. I ran out of money too and could not buy it for a while and noticed my skin was dull. A lot of times Amazon has it on sale. I would love to try them all--Cerave p.m., cleanser, etc. Dermatologists recommended Cerave a lot.
call me crazy - but
[ In Reply To ..]the best stuff I ever used on my face was an equal mixture of milk (or any dairy like kefir or yogurt)mixed with lemon or lime juice and sugar. Dissolve the sugar in the dairy and citrus, smooth it on your face and let it dry, then rinse it off, follow with toner (I use witch hazel) and moisturizer (I use olive oil or coconut oil or sometimes I mix them with grapeseed or avacado). What you have there is a chemical peel that you should only use once or twice a week that is a mixture of lactic acid, citric acid and glycolic acid and it makes you look clean and fresh-faced. I've been using it for 10 years and people consistently guess me in my early 40s and I'm 58. I also only use Kirk's castille soap to wash.
Okay, dumb question - Frump girl
[ In Reply To ..]When you say olive oil, do you mean the kind you cook with? Coconut oil - the kind you eat? Grapeseed or avacado - where would I get them? I guess my question is are these the food grade quality you eat. Second how do you apply it to your face.
I do like the idea of the dairy/lemon/sugar. Always wanted to make my own stuff, just never have. Sounds like it cost less too.
I think I'm afraid with some kind of chemical stuff, what if it burns my face. I may not be the prettiest person to begin with, but that would be horrid.
Thanks again for your suggestion. I'm looking forward to trying this.
No one suggested using chemicals that would burn - sm
[ In Reply To ..]What "chemicals"?
Look, you asked for suggestions, and now you are complaining about them? Without even trying them?
Yes, food-grade olive, coconut, grapeseed and avOcado oils. I cannot imagine that you do not have olive oil at your grocery. It is with the cooking oil. You probably have the rest of them there, too. If not, natural food stores have them. I would start with the olive, because it will be the least expensive.
Apply it with your fingers.
Yes, you can dry out your skin if you are too vigorous with scrubs. Putting baking soda in cleanser is a recipe for disaster--the scrubbing qualities are lost, while the combination strips the skin. Use a little baking soda on wet fingers and apply to wet face. Do not overdo it. Don't use a washcloth, either, because it is too harsh. If you use Phillips milk of magnesia (that's not a "chemical" that might burn you; it is the stuff for indigestion) first, it will loosen the skin and get most of it off so you don't have to scrub.
If you don't plan to wash your hair, don't get it IN your hair. Keep it out of your eyes, too.
I didn't say anyone suggested I used chemicals that would burn - Frump girl
[ In Reply To ..]When I said I'm afraid of some of the chemicals I meant like a microdermabrasion system or these chemical peels I have been reading about. I never said anyone here suggested chemicals.
I even said in my message I like the idea of dairy/lemon/and sugar and I said I was going to try the Milk of Magnesia too. Where in the world did you get the idea that I'm complaining about them. I specifically stated in my original message I welcome all ideas and suggestions. How you got that I'm complaining about them out of "I do like the idea of dairy/lemon/sugar" and also my post where I said "going to try that too" how in the world did you make that into that I'm complaining about them.
I asked about the olive oil, coconut, grape seed, etc because I've never heard of putting olive oil (the kind you eat) on your face, and I've never seen grapeseed or avacado oil at the store so I wasn't sure if this was the same kind of oils that you eat or if it was a special thing you get in the beauty section.
You know I'm sorry I even asked. I don't have a mother around to ask these things. I don't have a sister or any friends to ask this stuff to, or any children. That's why I came here, to get peoples ideas and input on what works for them. If they've got a great idea then yes I'm going to try it. Asking questions is not complaining. I'm sorry I'm not up to speed on all this stuff. Asking questions on what works because I'm feeling old and ugly doesn't help me when I get responses that say I'm complaining when I'm not. Maybe I should just stay frump girl and never ask anyone for suggestions.
Thanks.
She did not complain, she mentioned she was - afraid of chemicals. Relax.
[ In Reply To ..]Since the suggestion was for natural products (milk, sugar, lemon), OBVIOUSLY she wasn't complaining about chemicals in that. She just mentioned it as part of her reply. Good grief. Why do I even have to explain this, anyway? It's completely obvious what she meant.
Don't think of yourself as "not being the - Cerave lover
[ In Reply To ..]prettiest person" like you said in your post. Instead, play up the features you love about yourself. A smile goes a long way to make us beautiful too (and men love women who smile)!
No dumb questions, and yes olive oil from the kitchen - sm
[ In Reply To ..]I use extra-virgin light organic cold pressed olive oil so I don't have a lot of smell, and the coconut oil is the same kind you use for cooking. All of my oils are the same kind for cooking, my thought is that if it's the best to put IN me, then it's the best to put ON me because it's absorbed through the skin. To do the dairy/citrus/sugar exfoliating I bring the ingredients to room temp in a small container, add them together and let the sugar dissolve and just stir it around with my finger a little bit, then just glop it on your face, staying away from your eyes (although I do take it up as far as under my eyes to get any lines there) and then let it dry. It's sticky and pasty and gross. After it's completely dry I get in the shower and rinse it all off then use kirks and a natural face loofa to wash it. I have extremely sensitive skin and I can't use hardly anything on it without it turning beet red and burning like crazy. I have had rosacea in the past but it seems to have cleared up. I looked up the baking soda and that's for people with really dry skin and acne so if you have dry patches it would make it worse. I have a couple of places with seborrheic keratosis on my nose and they get really dry, the doc told me to use cortisone cream on them, but other than that nothing goes on my face, including makeup. And the suggestions about drinking lots of water and eating avacados was good, too. I also sometimes put avacado in my face oil.
Crazy, too - Exfoliate!
[ In Reply To ..]The yogurt mix above will work. If you have really thick build-up because you have never exfoliated before, use milk of magnesia first. Like Phillips. The magnesium is the main ingredient in many products.
Apply a thick layer and let it sit a while until it is nearly dry. Rub until dead skin rolls off. You will be shocked at how much comes off. It dissolves the intercellular bonds, allowing the dead cells to peel off.
You should use an exfoliating scrub daily. Baking soda works well. Sugar in a bit of olive oil works, too. Salt is a little too harsh.
Okay, going to try this too :-) Dumb question #2 - Frump girl
[ In Reply To ..]When you say exfolliate do you mean scrub my face with an abrasive material. Last week I tried baking soda mixed in with my gentle cleanser and I scrubed my face with it with a washcloth. Is that exfolliating? It also did not work. Maybe cos it was a one time thing I tried, but I had baking soda through my hair line and my face felt dry afterwards even with moisturizer and within an hour it went back to looking like I had stuff caked on my face (not the baking soda).
Maybe it's the citrus that is needed. Not sure, but at this stage I'm trying anything and everything (just not all at once LOL)
What does this stuff look like? - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Scrubbing it to death is not what we are recommending.
Chances are good that this cleanser of yours is causing part of the problem. If it contains sulfates, it undoubtedly is.
Is this caked-on stuff greasy and scaly? Or thickened, dry, possibly flaking, possibly darker patches? You could have seborrheic dermatitis or actinic keratoses. "Acne" can be rosacea--they look much the same. If a month or so of what we suggested does not help much, you need to see a dermatologist. Try finding pictures on line that match it.
Also, if you smoke this is in large part due to that. Same goes fo
Thanks for the info - Frump girl
[ In Reply To ..]First, I don't smoke. It's neither caked, greasy, or thickened, or flaking. It's hard to describe. Looking at my face from afar you can't tell, when I get up close to the mirror I've just got patches here and that look like dry skin, but looks like, hard to describe, except that same look when you don't remove face makeup.
Yeah, I scrubbed it to death a couple times cos I was so irritated that when I scrubbed it the first time an hour or so later it looked like I hadn't washed my face. Luckily I didn't scrub too hard because it didn't turn my face red, but I was getting pretty irritated that I washed my face and used moisturize and an hour later looked dry again.
Thanks for the tip on the cleanser. Going to go check if it has sulfates. will look for something better.
Thanks so much for the info. Jeezers I'd give anything to be in my early 20s again. Skin care was so easy back then. Now there are so many ingredients in the products I have to watch for.
Also been reading about what kind of makeup to wear and watching application techniques. Everything has changed and it will be a whole new routine for me. Maybe this is why I've been frump girl for so long. LOL
You keep using the word "scrub" - sm
[ In Reply To ..]You keep using the word "scrub." You do not need to and should not scrub your face. You should not use hot water, washcloths, fingernails, brushes, or anything else like that. No bath soap, handwashing soap, dushwashing detergent, etc. Facial skin is very delicate. It is easily irritated and damaged.
For ratings of all kinds of cosmetic products, including cleansers, see http://www.paulaschoice.com/beautypedia/
The majority of products are dreadful. Avoid anything with camphor, lavender, parabens, sulfates, and a long list of other things. You can find it at that website.
I wonder what kind of cleanser and moisturizer you are using, because they are probably part of the issue.
You can find skin care instructions there, too.
You also seem to disparage your appearance. You call yourself an unpleasant name, "frump girl," and seem to express anger at your face and appear to be treating it harshly in an almost punitive manner. That may be part if the problem.
"Scrub" is a thing of the past - Frump girl going glam
[ In Reply To ..]I used to (as in last week) "scrub" my face. Reading all the posts here I know I do not need to scrub. So no more "scrubbing" but will be "gently exfoliating". :-)
The cleanser and moisturizer I am using is Ponds. I don't know the ingredients right now because I don't have them with me, but will be checking.
Thank you so so much and to everyone here who has given me great suggestions and ideas. Today I am using the milk of magnesia and later this week I'm going to try the milk/lemon and sugar. For me it's hard to know what will work. I've looked at so many sites on the web, but never know if something really works, so figured why not ask my fellow MTs out there what works for them.
As for the name "Frump girl". I thought of that because I just watched the movie My big fat greek wedding. She said she was going through a frump girl phrase. I call it frump because for years I've sat in this chair stuck typing long long hours. I don't work on my hair like I used to when I was younger and I have not worn makeup in bout 10 years. I don't consider myself ugly and neither does my husband, but I don't like saying I'm pretty because it brings back memories of when I was young and I thought I was beautiful (and granted I was very pretty), but I had no humility and made it known to everyone that I knew I was beautiful. That is a part of me I am (not ashamed), but I just go "ughs, did I really say that when I was younger". LOL So....no I don't consider myself ugly. I'm just me. My husband loves me and thinks I'm beautiful and when I get this "dead skin" off my face and a moisturized, skin tone evened out and my pores reduces, my hair colored I will feel so much better about my appearance.
Again, I have to thank all of you for your suggestions. They have been great. Still learning what products to avoid, what to use, what tones the face, what does this and that and all of your suggestions and links are most definitely appreciated.
Remember... - ...less is more!
[ In Reply To ..]...don't overdo this thing. Just use a gentle cleanser made just for the face, and a moisturizer that doesn't clog the pores. Those greasy moisturizers are the worst, even for very dry skin. Moisturizers that act as a humectant (keeping moisture in/drawing moisture out of the air) as opposed to being just oily, are the best.
Be kind to your face! You may have made a not-so-bad situation worse. Just very gently cleanse with the "ball" of your fingers. Gently pat dry with a towel. It's okay to leave a little moisture on there before applying your moisturizer.
Eat a lot of avocados, yams and carrots and - Cerave lover
[ In Reply To ..]your skin will glow. Have a cup of hot chocolate every night too but not very much sugar. Silk brand milk with low sugar is good too. I am in my 50s and eat all of these things and drink Silk unsweetened soy milk, eat dark chocolate and my skin looks pretty good. I use Cerave too and stay out of the sun.
Another thing I love is Clarin's Instant Smooth - Cerave lover
[ In Reply To ..]Perfecting Touch. I just wear it alone and no makeup. It is expensive but lasts me all year. This is the best primer I have ever tried and I hope they never discontinue it. Clarins brand is Paris made and fantastic.
Drink lots and lots of water! - see msg
[ In Reply To ..]I am 58, and people tell me I look 40. They ask what my "secret" is. Some of it is good genes, frankly----we all look pretty good for our age. But drinking lots and lots of water is soooo good for the complexion. It "plumps out" pores, encourages really good circulation, which encourages proper natural exfoliation.
A good diet and exercise are very important as well.
I think less is more. I would not mess around with your face too much---I gently wash with a generic liquid face wash for gentle skin, and then I pat dry (no rubbing with a cloth to wash or dry).
I use a tinted moisturizer that has SPF in it. It just sort of smooths my face color out. I like the SPF because I live in Florida, and no matter how much I try to "stay out of the sun," it just doesn't happen. Walking through town for 1/2 hour is even bad.
If you can afford it, go to a dermatologist---you may have a dermatological "condition." Messing around with products could make it worse in the long-run, even if they seem to produce short-term results.
Also, try to keep in mind that you are way up close in the mirror inspecting, probably under a fluorescent light or other very bright light, and you are seeing things that others don't. You said yourself that you can't really even see it from farther away. Most normal room lighting is not the same as what your bathroom light is.
I use cerave sometimes but - sm
[ In Reply To ..]I don't feel clean, I feel greasy.
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