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Miss me yet?

Posted: Feb 9, 2010

There's a billboard in Minnesota with a picture of Dubya and the words "Miss me yet?"

Who paid for it? It's a secret so far. We don't know if it's anti-Obama or anti-Bush, if it targets people who forgot already the disaster that was the previous administration or if it wants to remind people how bad it was.

According to Fox News, Megatudes (which calls itself the "mother of all anti-Obama stores) is marketing a bumper sticker with the "miss me yet?"/Bush picture.

If Megatudes is behind this, could it be an undercover progressive site? I don't see how anyone could possibly believe the electorate would want to revert to the Dubya days. Or maybe they understand the intelligence level of that electorate better than the dems. Maybe there are many who are that intellectually challenged.

The billboard is kind of like keeping Palin and the Tea Party in the news. The dems love it.

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LOL.. Thats great! I hate to admit it, but with Obama - in office, I DO miss him!!!!!.nm

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Did they use - bigwash

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the picture of Alfred E. Neumann that they overlapped his face on? That would be the only appropriate photo for such a message. either that or the codpiece.

Just revealed. Anonymous small business owners paid - for it.. feel Washington against them.

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I'd say they are right on..

Heh, can't be - NJ

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Bush effectively raised taxes on small businesses and middle America while Obama is cutting them. If it's anti-Obama, it's a republican party thing because small business owners KNOW how bad it was under Dubya.

And if you want to go back to the Dubya days, it's safe to say you're probably one of the people who got us in this mess to begin with by your previous support of him. Deny it all you want, few who read your post will believe you didn't already vote for Dubya twice and thereby help screw over the country.

I do like the billboard, myself ^^

Obama is HURTING small business, not helping. - All you have to do is look deeper

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He wants big Govt controlling everything. I KNOW many small business owners, and they are terrified of Obama. Most will not hire now because they are waiting to see what he will do next. This tax credit to hire new employees is practically useless. No one is going to hire someone to pay them 30 grand a year to get back 5 grand in taxes. He needs to lower taxes overall, not "you buy this and THEN I will give you a break". Its common sense stuff.. get some and it will help everyone.

My husband has a small business and yes, - We miss Dubya!

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There's no way we're going to hire anyone right now since we're afraid of the health care and, since we're an excavating contractor with trucks and equipment, Cap and Trade is going to kill us with fuel costs.

He had 6 years - NJ

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Dubya had 6 years with a republican majority in congress. He did nothing to reform health care. That is part of the reason it spiraled out of control. Care to tell us how much your hubby's business' costs for insuring employees rose between 2000-2006? I'm sure the figures are close at hand.

As to cap-and-trade, first introduced by Bush Sr (without the cap), what exactly did Dubya do with it that you liked? And what did you like about the fuel costs while Dubya was in office? I remember paying $3-4/gallon. I honestly don't follow you on this one.

NJ

There was WORK during those years. - Backwards Typist

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Federal road jobs, state road jobs. DH worked from April to December 6 days a week from 1998 through 2008.

Last year he worked from June to October,3 days a week if that, and still owed money for October.

Cap-and-trade and health care? - NJ

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And the point about cap-and-trade/fuel costs and health care costs was...?

NJ

I didn't mention a thing about your 2 items. All I said was there was WORK! - Backwards Typist

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There is no work now.

Let's try again - NJ

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Ok, you don't want to address the issues I mentioned in the post you replied to. You want to talk about the economic skid and job losses.

I understand this is a personal issue for you. I felt the same way under past presidents who kept telling reporters the economy was fine after I suffered a layoff.

Could we agree that the meltdown (which cost McCain the election) came about under Dubya?

Can you explain what you would like Obama to do to get your hubby back to work? I am not being funny. I am trying to understand what you expect and how you expect the prez to achieve it.

NJ

I was the original poster about having a small business - Old part-timer

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Being forced to pay employee's health care is frightening. (Not required under Bush.) And cap and trade (regardless of who dreamed up this crap to begin with) stands to make $3 to $4 gas and diesel fuel look like a sweet dream. All our materials will cost more and, since most of our business is working for homeowners, means if we try to pass costs on to them, they will choose not to have work done. People aren't going to be putting on additions, paving their driveways, adding landscaping when the cost is over the moon.

As to your question what do I want Obama to do about it? I don't want him to do anything except keep his freaking nose out of where it doesn't belong.

No clue - NJ

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While I sympathize with what you are suffering under this economy, I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone who doesn't understand how it happened and wants to point a finger at Obama for all their woes.

I'll ask again...how did health care costs compare 2000-2008? (Answer: they rose dramatically. Go look at hubby's books.)

What is Obama doing differently from Bush that you don't like about cap-and-trade? How can you ignore the record-breaking fuel costs under Dubya? (Answer: you have no clue. You just don't like Obama.)

I took the liberty of answering for you because I don't think you have a clue about either issue. Please correct me if I'm wrong. You have the facts you need if you're running a small business. Look at your books.

NJ

Must be nice - Old part-timer

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Gee, it must be nice to be so omniscent. I'll answer for myself because your answers are clueless.

How did health care costs compare? It was expensive but at least we were not REQUIRED to provide it to every employee, as we are a very small business.

As for Obama doing anything different than Bush regarding cap and trade, cap and trade did not go into effect under Bush, so there's the difference. If Obama doesn't implement it, I'll be fine with that too. Cap and trade would have sucked under Bush and it will suck under Obama.

But next time, I'd appreciate your keeping your j*ck*ss opinions as to what my answers will be to yourself.

GW Bush created the mess before Obama got here - Why do repubs not admit it?

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Backwds typist can make ALL CAPS all she wants but the facts remain. Bush destroyed our country. Clinton had us IN THE BLACK... yes, that is right. NO DEBT and Bush left Obama $9 billion WITH A B...debt

Because they share the blame - NJ

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I think a lot of the panic and hate come from guilt. They voted Dubya in. Admitting to the bad things he did would be admitting they made a mistake in supporting him.

That, in large part, is the root of our current problems in not being able to discuss solutions. Since it's ludicrous to blame Obama for how low the country sank, dems find no common ground with those who want to revert to the guy who was really responsible.

It's all kind of surreal. And it points a big ol' finger at the failings of our educational system. How the heck did we get to the point where so many adults believe National Enquirer-type politicians?

NJ

But don't forget, O voted yes on most of the debt prior to becoming prez. - Backwards Typist

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or did you forget that part?

WRONG. Easy to forget the the Bush economy was - booming the first 6 years. Then,

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Americans became angry over the Iraq war, let Congress be taken over again by the dems for his last 2 years, and economy tanked.. fact.

In what universe? - NJ

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Clicky clicky

That's a link to timelines for trade deficit, unemployment, the Dow, and crude oil prices. Hey, the Dow went up! Rich people got richer! Oops, so did the trade deficit, unemployment, and crude oil prices.

If your version of the economy being fine is rich people getting richer, then all was well under Dubya. Well, except for the bankruptcies of Enron, Conseco (7th largest bankruptcy ever in the US), Pacific Gas and Electric (#10 on largest US bankruptcy list), US Airways, Northwest Airlines, Delta, WorldCom, and United Airlines, to name a few.

The middle class was getting sucked dry, and everyone complained about it, left and right. The Washington Post noticed: "In 2001, the top 20 percent of households for the first time raked in more than half of all income, while the share earned by those in the middle was the lowest in nearly 50 years." The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette noticed: "Since the beginning of the 2001 recession, corporate profits have expanded by an astonishing 57.5 percent. Meanwhile, total wages and salaries have actually shrunk by 1.7 percent."

The left complained about the government and Big Business whereas the right complained about "them". "Them" were never named by the right. Every time I asked who "them" was, I got a blank stare. But the right squawked the whole time. They just had no one to blame except their own heroes.

Last January, the right suddenly decided "them" was Obama and the democrats. "Them" suddenly took the blame for all the nastiness that had been snowballing since 2000 (please click the link above again if you've forgotten already).

The economy was not fine under Dubya. He broke it, big time. He took a surplus and turned it into a deficit. He robbed from the poor and middle classes and gave to the rich who, thinking they didn't have enough yet, played with credit default swaps until the whole broken system came crashing down, taking a good chunk of the world's economy with it.

It was not fine. You've just found someone to vent at, finally. You scream at the very people trying to fix the mess you ignored before because they aren't going fast enough for you. Well heck, you should have been paying attention while it was all coming about. Welcome back from your coma.

Since you live in the artificial intelligence world of - O, wouldnt expect any other answer.

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Obama is KILLING this country, not bring it back from the brink, creating jobs, saving healthcare. The man is clueless, but since you are in favor of his policies, I guess that puts you in the same category. Wake up if you come back to the real world.

No comment on that dandy clicky clicky time line gadget? - Slurs dont count. nm

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I don't expect anything under O anymore. - Backwards Typist

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The high gas didn't come about until the mid-Bush 2nd term. Greed from oil companies did that, but was disappointed because Bush didn't do anything.

But, O promised jobs. Promised infrastructure road projects, bridge work, etc. The only thing that has happened is federal buildings.

My one son is a certified welder. Can do anythihg they throw at him. Works 30 feet in the air if necessary. Lots of jobs supposed to come his way for bridge repair, etc. He goes to school on his own time and own expense to upgrade himself. There are no bridge or other welding jobs available. NADA. He is now hanging drywall. No jobs here for my grandson either who is a certified underwater welder for ships, bridges, etc.

My other son was laid off from his company that makes truck bodies after working there 10 years because they sent the work to China. Tell me that's fair...and O wants to export more U.S. products? What products? Jobs? If so, he's got a good start.

You'll have to excuse me for being a bit bitter, but I see my family's pride crumbling since O became president. At least DH was working and we could help the rest of our family, but now we even have a problem helping ourselves over the past year.

UNtil O can give JOBS back to the American people, I'm now anti-O. I gave him a year, which you will probably say is not enough, but when you're in a position like so many Americans are, a year is a lifetime....and I disagree that the pubs are obstructionists. At least the jobs were here back then.

On this note, this post is my last on my family's problems....but I definitely hope the rest of America wakes up before it's too late.

It absolutely amazes me.... - JTBB

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that you guys want to blame Obama for not setting forth some miracle to fix the economy lickity split instead of blaming the folks who caused this mess.

Tell me, if you get run over by a drunk driver, are you going to blame the doctor who is trying to heal your wounds or the drunk driver?

No! What I don't want is that doctor rubbing SALT into - my wounds -like Obama does.nm

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JTBB: What about O and the ongoing settlements in the Westbank? - -

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Do you think a Republican - administration would s/m

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bring the jobs back to Americans? If for 1 minute I thought that would happen (thinking MT jobs, etc) I would support that wholeheartedly. Have you heard anyone in power support stopping the outsourcing of American jobs? I haven't.

Outsourcing - NJ

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Dubya called those against outsourcing protectionists.

"Some people believe the answer to this problem is to wall off our economy from the world through protectionist policies. I strongly disagree."

"The United States will not give into the protectionists and lose these opportunities," Bush said.

Those quotes are from a 2006 speech. Cached at CNN.

Manufacturing jobs fell off more rapidly than ever before under Dubya. It finally landed at your door. And no, I am not at all happy about that.

NJ

Employers should not be EXPECTED to provide - health insurance anyway. It would

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be less expensive if everyone shopped for their own. There would be more competition and better rates. With tort reform and being able to cross state lines, many problems could be solved. I know people under group memberships through their employers who run to the doctor for every little sniffle. This increases rates more than they seem to know... or care. Personal responsibility is a good thing, unfortunately, not something Obama promotes.

Agree. My uncle owns a business and feels same way. - Hiring freeze there too. nm

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The billboard is good distractor - IMHO

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Doesn't take away from the fact that we have a progressive in the White House, as well as in some of the dems and repubs. The Tea Party is working on getting rid of as many progressives (dems/repubs) as they can. You seem to forget progressive polices have failed in the past. Look at California, a progressive state, its on the brink of bankruptcy thanks to progressives. Oregon is another progressive state, its progressive policies are ruining the state too. Texas is so far the best because they don't have progressives running the state into the ground.

You progressive mentality of "I got mine" too bad for you," is catching on with the people. Your social justice BS is ruining the U.S.

Obama is a one-term president as far as the Tea Party/America is concerned and the progressives need to go back under a rock where they belong, and take ACORN with you.

State bankrupcies - NJ

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Every state suffered under the previous administration because of cuts to federal services to fund the federal tax cuts for the rich. Those services were then funded at the state level.

So, republican Arnold is progressive? A moderate perhaps. If he was progressive, he'd be a dem.

I appreciate you trying to emulate me with the "I got mine" take on my "what's in it for me" theme. I'm flattered.

When we do get what we want, which is taking America back from Big Business, we will be dragging you along with us because that's just how us commie pinko socialist Bolsheviks are ^^

Meanwhile, the tea party does not concern anyone outside of it as much as it amuses us. No one takes it seriously.

NJ

No they did not. I don't know where you get your information - anon

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Every state did not suffer under the previous administration. That is until congress was taken over by the democrats/progressives.

In the early years or Bush's term the states were doing very well. Business was booming, people were working, states were doing very well. People had retirements and had things to look forward to. Then the democrats/progressives came in and that's when everything went downhill.

No Arnold Schwartenegger is not a progressive of course, but the democrat progressive in legislature ARE. They are the ones who have bankrupted the state. NOT Arnold.

You think that your party is "taking America back from Big Busness". Um...hello... have you not been watching the news. "Big Busness" is continuing to flourish and do quite well under the current administration. Nothing has changed.

As for the tea party. I think they are doing a good thing, but for pete's sake... KEEP SARAH PALIN OUT OF IT. She is going to ruin everything they are fighting for.

You weren't paying attention - NJ

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Here's a couple of articles on the middle of Dubya's administration:

This one explains how Dubya's federal tax cuts AND mandates resulted in "new state tax and fee increases [that] raised taxes for many middle- and working-class families".

This one also explains about federal tax cuts and mandates and how they actually raised your taxes. It also talks about how Dubya gutted the SBA, a move that put a larger tax burden on small businesses.

This stuff is history. It happened. It's not supposition. It's not twist. It's for real.

Where the heck were you people when all this went down? Why weren't you paying attention when it started?

Um...hello....I WAS paying attention. Looks like you weren't - anon

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I lived through the years, my family lived through the years. We know what was going on. My MIL was a great example. She prospered as did her state. People had jobs, people had retirement accounts. Her taxes were lower, but she hated Bush so much (as do others) they had to complain about everything. THAT is history.

Then the democrats came in, family and friends lost jobs, lost retirement accounts, lost everything. THAT is history.

And you post an article from a progressive site?????? You somehow thinks that backs up your claims?

Sorry...nice try...not.

I was alive. I lived through it. You can't twist what happens in real life.

Why aren't you people paying attention to what is going on now.

Not saying Bush was perfect by any means. But his policies...they weren't his ideas. He was told what to do. The earlier years of Bush were great, but as time went on it got worse, and by the time he left it was bad. But you can't change history and the truth is people did very well in his earlier years. That is until the democratic congress took over. Then it went downhill from there. Now we have a democratic president and congress and you are all okay with the destruction he is continuing on with. You're all okay just because you have your beloved democrat in office. So why aren't you paying attention to what's happening now?

anon

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