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Posted: Aug 13, 2012

....able to clean up the increasingly foul name-calling of Obama that's going on here.  Maybe those who can't stand Obama are just getting insensed because they feel less certain now about his defeat in November, so they're flailing around; but does stating that Obama "is a Marxist" and "is a Muslim," which are both just flat-out lies, sort of border on libelous?  I don't know for sure, thus the reason I haven't reported the posts; but those posters are simply not worth having a discussion with.  

I have a feeling that some of the posts lately are made by the very same person who is trying to make it seem like different people who are always agreeing heartily with her posts.  If that's the case, that's just sad.  

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I don't believe something is libelous if it's true, (sm) - Aunt Sue

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Obama's mentor in his formative years was Frank Marshall Davis, a Marxist. I give you his friends, Anita Dunn (whose hero is Mao), Van Jones (avowed Communist), and the many others. Don't forget, in college when he wasn't hanging with the Choom Gang, he was hanging with the Marxist professors. It's not brain surgery.

Yes, thank you. Common sense would tell a lot - about Obama.. hangs with scary people.nm

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nm

libelous - oldone

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Some of my best friends in high school were male. Does that make me a male? I did not vote on Obama; however, it is smart in politics to take everything with a grain of salt. As well, the man is our President. 'nuff said. Respect the office. Don't like the man? We can vote! Change the person who holds the Office of the President of the United States. This is AMERICA people. Free speech, etc. I am also of the opinion that a politician pretty much gives up a lot of freedom when he/she runs for office. I think no libel here. I am not going to demonize the man just because we do not share political affiliation.

I appreciate your position, oldone, but (sm) - Aunt Sue

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wouldn't you agree that by the time you reach college age, you are hanging with peers who are pretty much like you? I don't think a student who parties all week, doesn't study, is drunk all the time, is going to hang out with the class nerds. (I'm not talking about anyone specific here). I'm just saying by the time you are that age, you hang with people who you have things in common with. Obama is STILL hanging with the radicals. That's all I'm saying. I cannot respect him. That's just the way it is. I can respect the office, but what is that? Does that mean I can't say what I think about the man who holds that office? While this is still a free speech country, that's what I shall do.

That's comparing apples to socks - sm

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If you are a female and hang out with males, no of course you don't turn into a male.

Hanging out with Marxists, communist, etc, and agreeing and joining in the same activities whether it's politics, religion, etc, yes that makes you one of them.

My opinion - This board is weird.

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I don't care if the posts are removed or not, but trying to have discourse is pointless when people stop debating and just start slinging mud around.

I feel embarrassed at some of the things that are said on this board. We're MTs, not 4-year-olds. That goes for people of both political parties.

Every time I see a post that makes their point, and then finishes up with "Oh, but those Marxists are too dumb..." or "Yeah but try reasoning with a pub..." it just cheapens the whole post and ruins whatever point they were trying to make.

It's not worth bothering a moderator about, in my opinion. Tattling is just as childish. It's just a dead end to what could have been a good debate.

I believe that very few people on this board are MTs... - sm

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Since this is a public board and anyone can post, the minority opinions of MTs and their concerns are mostly ridiculed here.

Who else would bother coming here? - Confused.

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Why would anyone who wasn't an MT even know about this board, and why would they come here when there are other boards that cater more toward their interests?
Lots of ways to tell if you are an experienced MT. - Spelling, grammar, opinions, ideas, etc. nm
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They (non-MTs) don't understand the issues - off-shoring, tax evasion
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It seems like they have never heard of patients delaying care because they cannot afford health insurance. They have never heard of people with children who go hungry because they are paid minimum wage and can barely keep a roof over their heads. Yes, there are many non-MTs on this board.
Exactly. I think it is usually pretty easy to tell, nm - especially in these times. LOL! nm
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Now you can tell who is an MT by their "opinons" - and their "ideas"
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Why? Because they don't post what you believe, what your ideas are? There are MTs on here that have very radical, far out ideas, and they are MTs that are more conservative, and those in the center. Now you're going to assume YOU know how MTs should write, post, think politically. What ever happened to free speech? Good forbid they should forget to turn off a shortcut or miss a typo...What arrogance.
just cannot agree with that - nm
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That poster makes this same claim every few week - How do we know where she comes from?
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Just plain stupid.

I believe that very few people on this board are MTs - This poster says this all the time

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Getting old. Are you an MT? You question other posters. "Since this is a public board" how do we know you are not a farmer, or a hairdresser? Your constant questioning of others employment is bordering on ridiculous and has no place on A POLITICAL BOARD.

See message - Moderator

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Someone already complained that they couldn't call Romney a name, so I wrote a message and said if people want to call a republican politician a name I will leave it and if people want to call a democrat politician a name I will leave it. Two posters, both who are on the liberal side said that's great and they were fine with that.

I have also made it clear I will not be deleting messages because people do not agree with the content. The board is for posters to express their viewpoints on politics, politicians, and issues that are important to them.

If you feel a post is not worth replying to that is your option. Simply don't reply.

People on the conservative side feel the posts against conservative politicians are lies and people on the liberal side feel the posts against liberal politicians are lies. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I will not be editing or deleting posts because others do not agree with them.

Thanks Moderator... - (see message)

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...fair enough.

I'm a really reasonable person, which is why I didn't just hit "REPORT," "REPORT"!! and questioned if stating something as fact (more than just an opinion) and has been proven untrue would fall under that category or not.

I see regular ol' name-calling on both sides all the time, and I can always let it roll off my back if it's aimed at me. I do tend to simply not reply to those that I think aren't worth the blood pressure elevation. :-D I just felt a little uncomfortable with some of the physically aggressive things that were being said in the thread a couple of threads down from this one, but I'll leave it at that.

Thanks for your time!

Just so I'm clear, I would never... - (see message)

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....ask to have a post removed just because I disagreed with the poster's opinion. I'm grateful that we have that freedom of speech on this board....some boards I've seen won't even let you type certain words and names!!! Your post won't go through if it has the word or name in it, so people resort to using "code words" that are similar to the actual word. What a shame.
I understood what you meant. Not a problem - Moderator
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I understood you were not asking to have any posts removed. I wrote that as a blanket statement for other posters as I have received emails before asking me to delete posts and it was simply because of a difference of opinion.

Emotions are running high in politics, especially with the election coming up. It's understandable for posters to get mad and sound off.

I also read that both sides feel their candidate is being treated unfairly and both sides are saying that lies are being said. Guess that just politics.

So not a problem about your post. I never took it to mean that you wanted me to remove any posts.
I agree with your post - Conservative
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With a click of a mouse, they can move to another post or topic, yet they choose not to. I agree with you wholeheartedly. If I do not care for a post, I just will not finish it and move to something I want to read. Nor would I report someone because I did not care for their post. No matter how much I may disagree with a post or poster, as long as they are not offensive or vulgar, there is no reason they should be denied an opportunity to make their comments.

Thanks Moderator - Glad to see you refreshed - their memories

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Can't have it both ways. Odd thing is though, if they find these poster(s) so offensive, why continue to read them? Pretty easy to move on, but I am beginning to wonder about the agenda they have. They continually complain, but refuse to stop reading the post(s) or simply move to another post. Pretty simple procedure.

I would request that posters stop crying "moderator" - and making such threats in posts

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I don't think anyone expects a message to be deleted because we don't agree with it. Some posts are plainly harrassing, however, making it a hostile environment for everyone - particularly those who find themselves on the receiving end of personal attacks and misdirected anger.

you make a lot of assumptions - BTW - try going back

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and actually reading Obaman's own words. Obama said he embranced the Marxist believes, as did his family. His grandparents were communists, as was his mother and father. His mother was employed by Marxists. Obama attended communist seminars. Birds of a feather.

BTW again - Liberals and Democrats on this board wrote an open note to the moderator that they WANTED to be able to call any politician a name that they wanted (go back and read their posts), because they used very foul language to describe Romney and his wife and wanted to continue with the namecalling of Romney and his family. Be careful what you wish for.

Nothing libelous about stating beliefs that Obama himself said he agreed with and his family openly practiced.

Why would you immediately assume stating someone is of Muslim faith that that is an insult? Tells more about where you are going with than what the OP stated.

Reporting posts on here goes both ways. Don't be so sure of your pal Obama in November. Every day, more and more of his lies are being exposed.

Regurgitating the same right-wing lies over and over - will not make them true. LOL! nm

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Have you read the articles written by his old roommate? - xxx

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Maybe you had better...then you can decide if Obama's socialist ideology is a lie, or not.

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