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We can agree that they were both innocent and should not have been killed. - Reasonable people will also agree... sm

Posted: Jul 8th, 2018 - 2:19 pm In Reply to: What about Tamir Rice and Philando Castile? - Can you make them go away too?

A part of me doesn't feel that this post deserves an answer. Another part of me wants to believe that you're a reasonable person and that we can come to some agreement on how police should conduct themselves.

Things which I believe we can agree about:
* Every person in the US has a right to live. That includes people of all ethnic origins.
* Every person in the US has a right to dine wherever they want. No one should be refused service unless they are unruly or causing some other disturbance of the peace.

As a general rule, can we agree on those things? I know I wouldn't appreciate it if one of my loved ones was shot by the police for any reason. I also wouldn't appreciate it if I was denied service because of my skin color or some other personal trait. I'd like to assume that you would agree with these things.

Having said that, let's talk about Rice and Castile:
* It's a tragedy that they were shot and killed by police. We agree on that point. It never should have happened.
* Sometimes police need to use deadly force in the line of duty. Not often, but sometimes. We can all imagine situations where a cop is justified in shooting someone.
* It would be tragic if police didn't have to answer to the public for their use of deadly force in the line of duty. Imagine if the police could shoot anyone for any reason and never have anyone question their motives or their reasoning. That's a situation no one wants.

Given these factors (which I find reasonable, you are free to explain if you disagree) there is only one question that remains:

Did the police answer to the public for their use of deadly force in the cases of Rice and Castile?

My research indicates that they did answer to the public and they were acquitted of wrongdoing. Although, we do agree (and the cops involved would also probably agree with us) that a wrong was committed and Rice and Castile didn't "deserve" to be killed. I think we have to recognize this an easy judgment to make now that we know all the facts in the case. The police didn't have all those facts at the time they used deadly force.

Did I say anything in this post that you disagree with?

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