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Joint chiefs, DOD, and generas were NOT consulted. sm


Posted: Jul 27, 2017

nor notified in advance of Trump's decision to ban transgender people from the military.  Another case of liar, liar, pants on fire.  I guess it means we will go back to don't ask don't tell?  Maybe the gay community will be next?  Maybe he will be coming for you next?  Speak up now or forever hold your peace.  America's honor is literally at stake.  The right does not want to hear it, especially the religious right, but the president they continue to defend and support could very well be the proverbial "AntiChrist" or maybe even a test by God himself to see if we Chirstians do indeed follow in His footsteps.  If true, there are many who may just be turned away at the pearly gates when they fail the test.  

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I don't understand the outrage - sm

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There's already a long list of medical conditions that could prevent someone joining the military.

http://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/disqualifiers-medical-conditions.html

This is a direct quote from that page:
"Psychosexual Conditions
The causes for rejection for appointment, enlistment, and induction are transsexualism, exhibitionism, transvestitism, voyeurism, and other paraphilias."

Why is adding transgenderism to the list such a bad thing?

Before don't ask don't tell, they didn't get their - sex change paid for. Now they

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do.

That's what this is really about.

How do you feel about killing babies? - sm

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Do you think doing that is following in His footsteps?

ONE MORE TIME!!!! - NOBODY IS FOR

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KILLING BABIES!!!! The difference is, those of us who are smart enough know that a woman's decision, for whatever reason, to do that is between her and her God! Nobody else's business! There are already transgender soldiers fighting along side everyone else in the military and saving all American lives - even those who don't seem to get this! Should they be thrown out now because the whack job has tweeted it without so much as a hint to the military? This is not a medical condition or a fad. I can't even imagine how these people must feel, the torture they go through before they make that decision to change genders. Walk in someone else's shoes for a while! And BTW, the military spends lots of taxpayer dollars on Viagra for soldiers too - does that bother you?

...and what makes it even more horrible is that...sm - VTMT

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president Obama allowed them to come out publicly and feel safe, as did trump during his campaign. Now they are out and there is nowhere for these brave Americans who only want to serve their country to hide. Shameful!

Guess you're not familiar with the Dem's - platform. Get up to speed

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Guess you listen - too much and follow
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alt-right lies and propaganda - get up to speed indeed - Nobody likes the idea of abortions, even democrats!
Nope - Wrong again. Dems HUGE supporters of abortion - So far you are wrong 2 for 2
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Get up to speed indeed. V

Though that was not the subject here, i would like to answer.. - sm

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your question. I personally am a pro-life democrat. What I do with my body is between me and my God. I also believe in family planning, feeding and educating children after they are born.

Yes they were. I thought the left hates the military - anyway.

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No they weren't - and no we don't!

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Get a grip on reality!!!

YES, they were. The cost of medical therapy is one of the reasons - an official in the military cited,

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45% of transgender persons in the 18 to 44 age range are suicidal. This is a serious risk for personnel who are around weapons or operating machinery or aircraft. If this were the only issue, it would be enough to justify the medical ban.

Transgender operations and hormone therapy requires constant monitoring by a doctor. They carry serious health risks. Some of those risks require serious medications and ongoing management.
Some of the brass at the Pentagon cowerd by the - threat of being called bigots for
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basing policy of REALITY. Mattis was consulted.
Mattis was TOLD - on Tuesday
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night while he was on vacation - not really consulted!
How do you? Where are your facts? - Were you there? Nonissue
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No basis in fact, no probably none of this true.
1917- Join the Navy and See the World. - 2017 - Join the Navy and get a gvt funded
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sex change operation and lifetime supply of sex change hormones and drugs.


Seems you are losing the "grip on reality" - and denying anything not on your talking

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points list. Your post has no proof to back up your comments.
And yours does??? - I don't think so!
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The ban on transgender service that Pres. Trump - reaffirmed was there for eight

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years under Obama. It was there in his first term and his second term. And the media said nothing.

Only in the summer of last year did the ban technically end. And, in practice, it remained in force. All the while there was no angry clamor about the suffering of potential recruits who couldn’t enlist. Those who are fuming with outrage now had hypocritically remained silent. Obama had done it. So it must be good.

Obama had kept the ban in place for almost his entire two terms in office. And he found a way to retain it throughout his final months. With a year’s review, the transgender recruits could only be accepted after he was out of the White House. That way he could have his social justice cake and eat it too. He would get the credit for ending the transgender ban without dealing with any of the problems.

How brave of Obama, to wait until his term was almost - up leaving the next president

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to deal with the social fallout.

Perhaps Hillary was - not wrong when

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speaking about baskets and deplorables! I am starting to see her point!
Yes - Hillary's description about Baskets ofDeplorables - perfectly describes the Dems and
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...

This is how it works, so triggered - sm

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There was also a ban on transsexuals previously. I will admit I don't know the difference between transgender and transsexual. I've Googled it and all I get out of the explanations is they prefer to be called one or the other.

Trump announces that he's banning "transgenders" from the military. Okay. Cue the outrage. But why the outrage in the first place? Were there transsexuals trying to sneak into the military by referring to themselves as transgenders? I doubt that.

I will admit I'm a bit conspiratorial, but I see him playing serious head games with the Dems and the establishment. Trump spent most of last week throwing Sessions under the bus. Then Pubs and Dems came to Sessions defense and said Trump would be out of line to fire Sessions. That's an interesting admission and Trump now has it on record in the media.

Let's look at the substance of Trump's Sessions bashing. He railed against Sessions recusing himself from the Russia investigation and Sessions not going after the Dems for things they did during the campaign. Sessions seems to have gotten the message. The very public message.

Now Trump has created a nothing controversy of banning transgenders, when transsexuals were already banned. He may be providing cover from the media while his people work behind the scenes.

What's Sessions up to this week? What are the Congress-critters doing this week?

No one else notices this? Do you really prefer that the media focuses on how Trump hurt the feelings of transgenders in the military? Right now, that's all that's happened. He announced a ban. Now tell me the plan to implement it. Is it even going to be implemented? Does it matter?

I notice the leftists here calling Republicans the usual - anti this and bigot that, but

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in truth it's them who are intolerance. Youtube bans conservatives like Michelle Malkin and Twitter blocks them. But Imams aren't. Muslims who call for the annihilation of Jews aren't.

The left is calling the transgender ban intolerant and hate speech, but have they taken the time to read why?

Is someone on constant hormones stable? It's a good question.
And I noticed the way that right leaners - assume that everyone with
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harsh words for Trump comes from the left. He is earning the criticism he deserves from Americans of all kinds. I may be a little closer to the right on a few things, but my eyes can see and I can hear what comes out of Trump's own mouth. The one really hurting the right is Trump himself.
It should be an obvious question, unfortunately it isnt. - anon
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It is simple, biological logic. Anyone who has raised a teenager, and I've raised two, knows what hormones can do to a person's emotional/mental state. Same for women who struggle through menopause, of which I am one. I do not believe that people taking such quantities of hormones would be reliably stable, especially stable enough to be a member of the military. It is only my opinion that I believe transgenderism is a mental illness and that, itself, precludes one from military service.
Well I guess biology - is not Trump's forte
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either - as much of anything in education is not - as his transgender thing was just to make sure the House okayed a bill to move forward with his stupid wall! Bait and switch, smoke and mirrors - the media falls for it every time!
And we ALL KNOW that truthfulness was not - Obama forte
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Pushed off every major issue in the world for Pres. Trump to clean up because Obama to lazy to deal with any of it.

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