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Why professors object to being recorded.


Posted: Feb 21, 2017

president, a professor at Orange Coast College in California, Olga Perez Stable Cox, went into an extended hate-rant against the president-elect. Among other things, she described the Trump election as an “act of terrorism,” labeled him a “white supremacist” and called Vice-President-Elect Mike Pence “one of the most anti-gay humans in this country.” And this wasn’t even a political science class in which one might expect political talk, no matter how irresponsible. Stable Cox is a professor of human sexuality. When a student who recorded the diatribe posted the recording on social media, the professor’s union, the Coast Federation of Educators, AFT local chapter 1911, posted this message on Facebook: “This is an illegal recording without the permission of the instructor. The student will be identified and may be facing legal action.” According to the union, the recording, “violate[s] the professor's course syllabus, the Coast Community College District Code of Student Conduct, and the California Educational Code, section 78907, which exist to provide a robust, learning environment for all students irrespective of their opinions.” The aforementioned California Educational Code states: “The use by any person, including a student, of any electronic listening or recording device in any classroom without the prior consent of the instructor is prohibited. . . .” The American Association of University Professors has long opposed unauthorized recording and public posting of what professors say in classrooms. As it happens, I was a college teacher for two years at Brooklyn College. I recall students asking me if they could record my lectures. And I remember thinking, “Why on earth would I say no?” I wanted whatever I said in a classroom to be heard by more than 50 people. “Who wouldn’t?” I wondered. Here, then, is my theory as to why most professors who object to their class lectures being recorded do so: They fear having what they say exposed to the general public. Our colleges, universities, (and an increasing number of high schools and elementary schools) have been transformed from educational institutions into indoctrination institutions. With the left-wing takeover of universities, their primary aim has become graduating as many leftists as possible. The vast majority of our colleges have become left-wing seminaries. Just as Christian seminaries exist to produce committed Christians, Western universities exist to produce committed leftists. Aside from the Christian-Leftism difference, universities differ in only one respect from Christian seminaries. Christian seminaries admit their goal, whereas the universities deceive the public about theirs. Thus, in the “social sciences” – disciplines outside the natural sciences and math – a large number of college teachers inject their politics into their classrooms. And if they are recorded, the general public will become aware of just how politicized their classroom lectures are. But there is another reason. Most professors objecting to being recorded know on some level that they are persuasive only when their audience is composed largely of very young people just out of high school. They know that if their ideas are exposed to adults, they may be revealed as intellectual lightweights. Students, therefore need to understand that when their professor objects to being recorded, it is a statement of contempt for them. The professor is, in effect, saying to his or her students: “Listen, I can get away with this intellectually shallow, emotion-based, propaganda when you are the only people who actually hear it. You aren’t wise enough to perceive it as such. But if enough people over 21 years of age hear it, I’m toast.” If a professor meets privately with a student, all rules governing the recording of conversations without permission should apply. But when a professor stands in front of a class, he or she is in the public domain. Moreover, the public is paying at least part of this professor’s salary at virtually every university. We therefore have a right and even a duty to know what professors say publicly in classrooms. In fact, I would encourage every student who cares about truth and intellectual honesty to record what their professors say in class. I would also encourage every parent to find out what they are paying for. And I would likewise encourage professors to record themselves in order to protect themselves against doctored material. Any professor who is not ashamed of what he or she is saying in class should welcome being recorded. And any student taking a class with a professor who objects to being recorded should know that this objection is almost always equivalent to the professor saying: “I want you to hear what I say in class, because I’m quite confident that you can’t differentiate between instruction and indoctrination. But if what I say goes public, people who do know the difference will expose me as a propagandist.” ;

My theory as to why most professors object to - their class lectures being recorded

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is that they fear having what they say exposed to the general public.

They forget the reality of the smartphones.

Rats flee when exposed to daylight.

No, no, no - it's not that devious

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they don't want one student recording the lecture and then selling it to all the others that are sleeping in and skipping class. This has been a rule for years.

I think most people know this is why. - More alternative facts

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from the right.

We read books like 1984 in school. INGSOC (English - socialism) and Big Brother, created

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by the media, is somehow now being equated to Make America Great Again?

Modern education in its full glory - sheesh.

Newspeak = political correctness.

It has gotten difficult to present a rational argument to modern psychotic liberalism - just not enough to work with.

Orwell made it clear he was writing on Stalinists in the West.

and this means what - exactly?

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This is a guy's theory, an opinion, obviously an alt-right opinion. Maybe there are professors that are talking about how all Muslims are bad and all Mexicans are illegals and Hillary's maid shredded the emails.

Lefties here won't care. I can predict it already. That's why - I only come here once a week,

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too predictable. The left simply does not care and will not debate what is really happening.

We do debate - but

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when anybody from the left responds with questions or points out facts, the right has no response and goes on a left-bashing frenzy.

Oh pa-lease. The left responds with violence- burning buildings, destroying - businesses and private properties...

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and physically harming anyone who has a different view than they do.

"Left-bashing frenzy"... LOL
Excuse me! - I
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do not burn buildings, destroy businesses and private properties. I responded to a post that said the left on this board won't debate issues.

Maybe reading the post would be helpful.
I read the post clearly. - Truth hurts.
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The left are some of the most hateful, violent group of people and the biggest bullies on the planet.

How could any decent person want to be affiliated with that kind of group of people?

smh.

I resent this post - old and burned out
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It is the protesting and activism by the left that have resulted in virtually all the social gains of the middle class. This includes Social Security, Medicare, decent working condition, child labor laws, clean air and water, public education. Where was the right when the liberals were putting their lives on the line for civil rights? Probably at home watching TV, saying yes sir and no sir and engaging in one handed salutes.
MLK and other Republicans were fighting for civil rights. - You missed the point.
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The so-called protests have turned into rampant violence with no respect for property or person. Go back to the Women's March. All that filthy vile gutter speak coming out of the mouths of Madonna and Ashley Judd with children within earshot. They are filthy, disgusting excuses of human beings! They spew hate and then regurgitate more. THAT is the point.
And who is your example - OABO
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of articulate and refined speech? Certainly not the man for whom you presumably voted. When has a POTUS talked about grabbing women by their private parts, told supporters to punch dissidents and shouted "Get the hell out of here!" Children heard that too, you know.
MLK was not a Republican - OABO
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another myth!
By the way, you just proved my - point
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nm
For speaking FACTS about the left...LOL - Okay.
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Nice try.

and thank you for proving my point - yet again
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You have a nice day.
Speaking facts about the left is not "left bashing", - it is simply stating facts.
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Go ahead, have the last word, I understand how important it is for the left to have that last word but does NOT make you right.

I would be embarrassed to call myself a liberal democrat these days and my family are about as far as you can get from a conventional conservative family. We would be willing to give up ALL the rights we have gained over the course of the past 8 years just to get our country back and yes, we PROUDLY voted Trump!!!

Protesting and rioting has become like a sport to the left. It - services no purpose other than

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to fundraise. That's why liberals on TV love to blame things on Rush. They rake in money.

In addition, a lot of the loser libbies get paid by Soros. - sm

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Rent-a-Thug.

So tell me, was this professor FIRED for this rant against Trump nad Pence...??? - OF COURSE NOT!

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Instead, the student may face legal action against him/her.

LAUGHABLE!!

If the rant was against the left, the professor would be fired and the student praised for the recording!

Just read an article where a first-grade teacher was put on administrative leave for uttering the words, "illegal alien" in a post on her own personal Facebook page.

Had she bashed Trump instead, she too would still had a job and it would never have made front page news.

How do you know - she would not have

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been in trouble for Trump bashing? We also don't know the context of the "illegal alien" post.

People have been let go from their jobs for posting many things on Facebook and other social media that are not related to politics. This is the way it is now. I learned in college that you should really watch what you put on social media because many employers are watching that stuff.

Too bad we can't fire Trump for his social media habits. He bashes everybody on Twitter that doesn't agree with him.











It reminds me of what abusers say to their victims. - sm

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All part of the grooming process.

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