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Illegal Immigrants Could Elect Hillary


Posted: Oct 8, 2015

Illegal immigrants—along with other noncitizens without the right to vote—may pick the 2016 presidential winner. Thanks to the unique math undergirding the Electoral College, the mere presence of 11-12 million illegal immigrants and other noncitizens here legally may enable them to swing the election from Republicans to Democrats.

The right to vote is intended to be a singular privilege of citizenship. But the 1787 Constitutional Convention rejected allowing the people to directly elect their President. The delegates chose instead our Electoral College system, under which 538 electoral votes distributed amongst the states determine the presidential victor. The Electoral College awards one elector for each U.S. Senator, thus 100 of the total, and D.C. gets three electors pursuant to the 23rd Amendment. Those electoral numbers are unaffected by the size of the noncitizen population. The same cannot be said for the remaining 435, more than 80 percent of the total, which represent the members elected to the House.

The distribution of these 435 seats is not static: they are reapportioned every ten years to reflect the population changes found in the census. That reallocation math is based on the relative “whole number of persons in each state,” as the formulation in the 14th Amendment has it. When this language was inserted into the U.S. Constitution, the concept of an “illegal immigrant,” as the term is defined today, had no meaning. Thus the census counts illegal immigrants and other noncitizens equally with citizens. Since the census is used to determine the number of House seats apportioned to each state, those states with large populations of illegal immigrants and other noncitizens gain extra seats in the House at the expense of states with fewer such “whole number of persons.”

This math gives strongly Democratic states an unfair edge in the Electoral College. Using citizen-only population statistics, American University scholar Leonard Steinhorn projects California would lose five House seats and therefore five electoral votes. New York and Washington would lose one seat, and thus one electoral vote apiece. These three states, which have voted overwhelming for Democrats over the latest six presidential elections, would lose seven electoral votes altogether. The GOP’s path to victory, by contrast, depends on states that would lose a mere three electoral votes in total. Republican stronghold Texas would lose two House seats and therefore two electoral votes. Florida, which Republicans must win to reclaim the presidency, loses one seat and thus one electoral vote.

But that leaves the electoral math only half done. The 10 House seats taken away from these states would then need to be reallocated to states with relatively small numbers of noncitizens. The following ten states, the bulk of which lean Republican, would likely gain one House seat and thus one additional electoral vote: Iowa, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma and Pennsylvania.

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Need to know - anonie

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Just tell me why no one is stopping this illegal voting from illegal aliens here in the US ILLEGALLY.

This is absolutely wrong. Just because they have a driver's license does not mean they have a right to vote unless they can prove they have their papers of citizenship.

No amount of photo ID like we have in our state can be justified (though I agree with it) if you do not stop illegal voting by anyone.

We now have over 350 sanctuary cities. This country - is quickly going downhill.

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I'm okay with this as long as it's Hiliary elected and not Bern-out - Anon

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WHAT??!! Why would ANY American citizen be "okay" - with illegals influencing our elections?

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It's okay as long as a certain person gets elected, so the ends justifies the means?

And if they DID tip the election to someone you don't happen to like, what would your argument be then? On what basis would you suggest that their influence be nullified?

There's only one such argument you could offer, and that would be that illegals ought not to have any influence in the electoral process, which then would be the SAME argument that would be used against you by someone else if someone they didn't like were elected on the strength of the illegal population, and for which you would then have no answer.

I can't wrap my brain around this kind of thinking. I really can't.

The dems have to scrape the bottom of the barrel - in order to win elections.

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It's spelled D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-I-O-N.

Clinton wants to convince everyone they're a victim.

Sanders wants to entice them with more freebies.

This is not the democratic party I once knew and supported.
By today's standards, JFK would be a conservative. - It's a sad thing to watch
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what's happened to America. There's a good post below about a Soviet defector from the 80s, Yuri Bezmenov, about the four stages of what's happened to America. It's going to take at least another generation, 25 years or so, to change things.

When I was young, at least Democrats and Republicans both loved this country, they just had different ideas on how to achieve things. Now, it's about fundamental transformation, meaning socialism, or worse.

They DON'T. It's just more hype and hysteria - to promote the rightwing agenda.

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Um, yes they do - The propaganda is from the left
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