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Is there any words to describe how low she will go

Posted: Mar 5, 2015

I do not know of such a word to describe how low and at what lengths she will go with her lies. The answer Greg is yes, she does think everyone is stupid. This is why she is dispicable and not a leader. She is not someone who young girls can look up to and she is not inspiring. Please, someone save us from them. Or better yet, someone save them from themselves.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4096153022001/gutfeld-does-hillary-clinton-think-were-stupid/?#sp=show-clips

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Another Fox News Hit Piece on Hillary Clinton - sm

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"Gutfeld: Does Hillary Clinton think we're stupid?"

In this piece, they refer to her as a "golden girl" and "Dowager Grantham" and laugh at her and call her other choice names. Good times.

I can't answer for Hillary, but I think they're stupid.

Not a Hit Piece...her own lies coming out of her mouth - nm

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Hillary is not a Fox News entertainer. This is a 13:17 minute hit piece by Fox. - sm

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It is a whiff of desperation.

No, it's called informing the public of more lies from "The Patholigical Liar" - Mrs. Tingles

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This is so easy. Fox doesn't have to do anything. She's doing it all on her own. Her lies get worse and worse as time goes on and she lies so much that she lies to cover up other lies. It's a very sick disease. PLPD (Pathological Lying Personality Disorder). This is a being that believes she can lie about everything and just as Greg said she thinks people are stupid and will believe her.

It's a very sad thing, but unfortunately the disease runs in many politicians. It is also associated with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Oh wait that seems to be rampant currently.

It's called baloney. More accurately, it's called red meat. - sm

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If this is so easy and if Fox doesn't have to do anything, then there'd be no need to actually be doing it. So then why, do you suppose, are they doing it?

This type Fox character hit piece and sitting around laughing and making personal jokes about a candidate is designed to inflame Fox viewers. That kind of hit piece on a candidate, any candidate, is not actually designed to motivate the opposition. Propaganda such as this is designed to be red meat to fire up conservatives.

Conservatives are motivated by feelings and name-calling and red meat like that served up on Fox News. If you want to motivate liberals, a convincing argument including facts will be necessary. This just smacks of desperation.

There is no such thing as "red meat". Someone needs to keep the public informed of the - Pathologic liar

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There is no "red meat" here. Showing the country exactly what she is is just getting the truth out. I'm glad Fox is covering it even though I don't watch them, but there are plenty of independent sources that are showing it for what it is. A pathological liar. I knew about it's pathological lies way before this. It does not have one incy tiny piece of it that is capable of telling the truth.

I'm not here to motivate liberals. There is nothing I could or want to say that they will see the truth.

The facts are there. She lied back then she lied about Benghazi and she's lying now.

Not desperation. It's called informing the public. If people don't want to see it for what it is, then that's their choice. I prefer to stick to the facts, not live in denial. And that goes for any politician.

Fox News is red meat, and this is loaded with it and smacks of desperation. - sm

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How sad that people actually believe the propaganda at Fox "News." Fox covers propaganda 24/7/365. They are terrified at the prospect of having to run against Hillary Clinton, and she has not even announced that she is running. The dead giveaway that you are watching "propaganda" versus "news" is when a station devotes the majority of its time on air to trashing the president and his administration and never has a word nice to say but wall-to-wall lies and misinformation. A bunch of "news" entertainers sitting around laughing and telling off-color jokes and insulting a potential candidate is not, believe me, designed to be informative or truthful. Not sure how you know it's the truth if you don't watch it.

You said: "I knew about it's pathological lies way before this. It does not have one incy tiny piece of it that is capable of telling the truth." And you said: "It's called informing the public. If people don't want to see it for what it is, then that's their choice. I prefer to stick to the facts, not live in denial."

Referring to a human being as an "it" is not exactly indicative of sticking to the facts versus living in denial. :)

The proganda comes from the left - always has

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Well it comes from all sides, but mostly the left and yeah, how sad that people actually believe the propaganda left feeds them. Once again, there is no such thing as "red meat" at Fox.

Nobody is "terrified" of Dilly. That's just plain silly. The only thing she'll be running for (or rather from) is to answer for her participation in what she's been doing and to answer for all her lies she has been telling and explain the illegal activities. Oh the day will come for sure, and that is what terrifies the liberals. Yeah, lets just sweep the evidence under the rug and pretend it didn't happen. The only question is will the money people put her in the position or is she too much of a liability (baggage) for them and then they will throw her under a bus. So, no, we are not terrified of her, but her supporters are terrified about the facts being presented.

So sad that her supporters buy her lies and the propaganda that MSLSD, CNN and their ilk feed them.

I have never referred to a human being as an "it". I reserve that for beings that do not have the human qualities that a human being does (empathy, compassion, honest, respectful, unselfish, sincere) when a human being is missing characteristics that make them human then they are nothing more than an object.

And those are my opinions about a politician(s) and we are allowed to post our opinions here.

So...sit back and enjoy he ride, it's going to be bumpy for sure, but I have enough faith that good will triump and we can say bye bye Dilly.

Propaganda technique: Dehumanization - sm

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This poster said: "I have never referred to a human being as an 'it'. I reserve that for beings that do not have the human qualities that a human being does (empathy, compassion, honest, respectful, unselfish, sincere) when a human being is missing characteristics that make them human then they are nothing more than an object."

In the post above, Hillary Clinton is referred to as "it," and she is now being described as "nothing more than an object." The characterization of a human as an "it" or an "object" is a propaganda technique called "dehumanization." This is a technique used to make it easier to cause harm to a perceived "enemy" or "bad person." "Moral justification" is the theory that others must be dehumanized in order to aggress against them. Through moral justification, people enable themselves or their group as fighters in the name of what is deemed "good" or a perceived "righteous ideology."

Sadly, the technique of dehumanization has been used throughout history to justify the buying and selling of people as property and to wipe out millions of lives around the world during times of war. It's wrong to exterminate people, but it's permissible to exterminate rats or destroy objects in the name of "good" versus "evil."

This poster also said: "So...sit back and enjoy he ride, it's going to be bumpy for sure, but I have enough faith that good will triump and we can say bye bye Dilly."

The name calling on this board is bad enough, but if words like "faith that good will triumph" and referring to humans as "it" and "nothing more than an object" are going to become commonplace on this board, we should at least be aware of its use and be allowed to call it out as the use of propaganda that it is.

Only if its human - nm

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Thank you for referring to my post - I feel honored.

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Like MSNBC entertainers, yes? - Truthhurts

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All of them over there are radical and devoid of compassion. Tingles, Sgt. Schultz, All Sharpless, the tampon lady....none of them care to tell the truth about the Dems but do tell a lot of lies about the GOP.

But let's not forget, those I pointed out are COMMENTATORS, not worthy of the title of journalist just like Media Matters and Mother Jones. They are too hateful because of their worship of liberal progressives and/or the Communist way of life. When people are "programmed" to think government is the savior of everyone and that government should raise our children and stick their noses (government) into our lives every waking moment, there's something wrong with this country.

Greg Gutfeld would be proud that he has been relegated to a news journalist. He pays attention to what goes on in this world, unlike others. His comments are at times meant to be funny and at times, meant to be sarcastic and his books have really opened the eyes of some people. :)

No, actually not relevant - sm

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This being a discussion about the OP and Fox News' "The Five," the cutesy name-calling of any other people on any other network (while inventive and entertaining) is not exactly relevant to the OP's topic and is deflection here but, nevertheless a great topic for another post.

Anyway, regarding Gutfeld; in no way did I or would I ever refer to him as a "news journalist." He is a Fox News entertainer. He has described his audience on Fox, Red Eye as (quoting Gutfeld) "really old people that have to get up to urinate" and (quoting Gutfeld) the "urinating demographic." LOL. He's funny. He came to my part of the world once, and I actually got to meet him (really nice, extremely funny IMO). Surprising that Fox News even allows an atheist/nonbeliever on their "news" channel, but he manages to keep the paychecks rolling in, which in my opinion is extremely impressive under the circumstances.

See link, which warning is for adult ears only because of graphic language. REPEAT: WARNING GRAPHIC LANGUAGE, ADULTS ONLY.

How convenient for Hillary to suddenly become the hot... - anon

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topic of the day just went the DOJ report on Ferguson comes out. Deflection?

Desperation - nm

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Fox is stupid. Period. - nm

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Another drive-by...how typical - nm

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That's all they have. - LOL

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Remember the old, "Your mother wears army boots" mentality?

'How typical' of what? - nm

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How typical of a drive by that they don't add anything - of content to their post

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Just a one liner drive by.

What is the "what" you were referring to?

Just because a poster doesn't feel the need - to write (or cut & paste) - sm

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reams of text in their post doesn't mean anything, other than that they were able to say what state their view in just a few words. I find the ability to do that to be refreshing, especially on this board.

Yup. Short and sweet. No need to waste words. nm - OP

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Then when conservatives do the same thing there will be no problems - Right?

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No problems here. We all could use a LOT - less cut-and-paste posting.

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I truly have no words. nm - oldMT

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Since the median age of Fox News viewers is 68.8 and climbing - sm

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Making jokes about Hillary's age is the definition of stupid.

Since the median age of Fox News viewers... - tiredofliberalsmt

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I'm less than 50 and watch Fox News...

Probably not a wise thing to admit. - nm

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I think its an excellent thing to admit - sm

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People turn into to Fox because the other stations are propaganda tools and the country is sick of them. That's why Fox has the highest viewers.

Fox is only one venue, but we all look at other sites. Just not propaganda being spewed by the left.

That's why we are informed on the issues going on.

Fox is the only venue where their "star" reporter, - Mr. OReilly, threatens other reporters.

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i.e., Reporters from other news affiliates who don't happen to agree with him and his paranoid rants.

O'Reilly is not a reporter. - SM

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He's a news analyst.

Good job at keeping it pithy!

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He can't report the news, and he most - certainly cant analyze it, either.

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He's a waste of television air time.

He didn't threaten anyone. - nm

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and he's not a reporter. He does have the right to defend lies and accusations made against him.

Wrong. - google = your friend

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Telling someone that you're going to use everything you have - to prove your innocense is not a threat

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Sheesh!

Yeah...Google = your friend. There's other sites too. But google is the main one most people use. However, there are those that twist words into what they want them to be when it is clear of what a person has said.

In that case Google = no friend

He threatened more than that. - n/m

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Oh, wrong, he actually did threaten someone - sm

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Of course he has a right to defend himself, but he did tell lies, as has been proven by many, many real reporters.

The facts may not be favorable to the Fox News viewers and lovers of O'Reilly, but he did, in fact, threaten someone.

Brian Williams Lied
Bill O'Reilly Lied

Truth.

Rachel Maddow? - Really???

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okay then. not.

He most certainly DID threaten someone. - He threatened news reporters.

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Bill O'Reilly is not a reporter. Who told you this? - jeez

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Doesn't matter what O'Reilly is, or thinks he is. - He publicly threatened reporters.

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That poll is not accurate. - sm

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Since it didn't poll everyone in the country, it really does not know the age groups. It's a wild guess on their part. Of course elderly will be watching it as they are retired and stay home and watch TV. I'm in my 50s and all my friends and family are. There are MT's here from all over the country in thier 40s and 50s and they all watch Fox. Most of the younger generation don't watch TV, but rather get their news from the internet and since they are not polling the people who read or watch Fox on the internet their figures are not a true representation.

By your criteria, every poll in the country is wrong! - sm

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Quoting you: "Since it didn't poll everyone in the country, it really does not know the age groups. It's a wild guess on their part.... There are MT's here from all over the country in thier 40s and 50s and they all watch Fox."

They all watch Fox? So I guess your age groups are not a "wild guess" because you polled everyone in the country?

I happen to fit your description, and I DON'T watch Fox and wouldn't go near the stench of that "news" channel. LOL

I never said you did. I said "There are MT's here - from all over the country"

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I didn't say every MT here watches it. But thousands and thousands do. That's why we are well informed about important issues.

What do you expect? - Empirelady

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She's a politician! Why are you so surprised? The majority of them lie and cheat the American people, both sides of the aisle. I'm neither pro nor con Hillary Clinton, but your outrage is misplaced if it's only directed at her. Politics, like Hollywood, is FULL of narcissistic (no doubt some actually pathological, but that's for the professionals to decide), lying people. They are drawn to the spotlight like moths to a flame.

I would love to see all this energy of both sides attempting to crucify the other go toward pressuring for term limits and to stop making it so profitable to be a politician. I don't believe this what the founding fathers envisioned.

I agree with you, but it is what it is. - sm

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And we have to work with what we have. It's a shame that $1 billion is what is needed to run for president. Sadly, we can't change that fact. We have to vote with the way things are and those things may include Hillary.

I agree with you. But my post was not about - Mrs. Tingles - sm

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everyone other politician. It was about this "um" person.

Yes, the majority cheat and lie. My outrage is not misplaced and not only directed at her. When other people lie I will bring that up too, but for this post it was about the subject I posted about

I agree with your post all the way.

More Dehumanization Propaganda - sm

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This poster said: "It was about this 'um' person."

This dehumanization propaganda and delusion from the right-wing and the narrative that Hillary is somehow subhuman says more about conservatives and their ridiculous rhetoric than it does about Hillary.

When people talk about conservative propaganda, right-wing delusion, and the conservative bubble, this type of ridiculous rhetoric and utter preposterous nonsense is exactly what they're referring to.

Only possible if there is a human to be dehumanized - sm

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And there are those who show who their allegiance is to.

A human has human qualities/traits (empathy, compassion, honesty, respectful, etc). If someone is not capable of these human traits, which it is not, they are missing something (the human trait).

I do not call evil or good he or she. It is a description without male/female reference. When someone is missing these human traits, it is just empty, like robot.

I have many opinions regarding politicians and other beings walking around on earth. They take all forms, shapes & sizes. These are my opinions I am allowed to voice here as you are allowed to voice your opinions. I suggest if people don't like my opinions they need to have a thick skin. People have latched onto it as being the next best thing since sliced bread, but what's that saying...a wolf in sheep's clothing. There are many people who know what it is capable of.

I see a lot of people are upset, not because it keeps digging herself into a hole, keeps showing her emotionless, lack of empathy, unable to tell the truth about anything, etc, but because people are pointing that out. It's lies are getting worse as time goes on and she lies to cover up the lies she just told. It has no conscious and she thinks everyone is stupid. I can't understand why people will even consider a liar, etc would even be an acceptable candidate. If that is the best that party has to come up with I feel they are going to be very disappointed. There are plenty of other women in their party who would make good presidents, just not THAT!

If others cannot handle people opinions that differ from theirs there are plenty of boards out there that support only their opinion and none others. Last I knew this was a board for all people to give their opinions.

Dehumanization Propaganda -- just calling it out for exactly what it is - sm

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This poster said: "If others cannot handle people opinions that differ from theirs there are plenty of boards out there that support only their opinion and none others. Last I knew this was a board for all people to give their opinions."

I am of the opinion that aspects of board moderation are best left to the Moderator, but shouldn't what is expressed in the quoted text of the post equally apply to all posters? Should people who disagree with a post be not allowed a response, be suggested to self censor or to find another board?

My opinion is that if poster(s) are going to refer to Hillary Clinton or any other candidate for that matter, regardless of political affiliation, as an "it" or "THAT" or as somehow not human, that post just might generate a response or two. Why? Because this type of dehumanization propaganda has been used far too often for far too long to injure far too many people in this world not to call it out for exactly what it is. This type of "moral justification" is what allowed millions of people to be enslaved by others and marginalized, mistreated, and even led like lambs to their extermination. Humans should not morally marginalize or allow others to be marginalized, demonized, or dehumanized as if they are objects that deserve derision, subjugation, or disposal.

People do not become "its" because someone is of the opinion that they are not human. No one becomes a "THAT" because someone has judged them to be morally inferior.

This poster said: "It has no conscious and she thinks everyone is stupid. I can't understand why people will even consider a liar, etc would even be an acceptable candidate. If that is the best that party has to come up with I feel they are going to be very disappointed. There are plenty of other women in their party who would make good presidents, just not THAT!"

There's plenty of other men too, and all due respect, she may not share your party worldview, but she is not a "THAT." She is conscious, and she does not think everyone is stupid. Honestly, I mean this in the nicest way possible, but liberals don't generally care whether conservatives like their choice for candidate or not or whether they understand their choice nor their reasons for their choice.

Conservatives keep pounding at this "liar, liar" meme as if there is somehow a candidate that is worthy of the moral majority. If voters are limited to casting their ballots for an honest politician who has managed not to lie, then not a single one of these representatives would be able to garner a single vote.

I don't give a hang about Hillary's emails; she's not the only politician to have a private email. I don't care whether she does or does not meet with the approval of right-wing conservatives. If she decides to run, she's getting my vote.

But hey, we completely understand. Regardless of whether Hillary runs or does not run or becomes the nominee or does not; no matter who the Democratic nominee turns out to be, if you'd like to see liberals come out to vote in huge numbers, nominate another Bush.

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