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Do you think the ILLEGAL ALIENS are really going to REGISTER?
Posted: Nov 24, 2014
Will Obama be making another EO to block the IRS and Social Security Administration from performing their jobs? The Dems are stating that the illegals have to REGISTER to get a work permit, pay fines, pay taxes, yada, yada, yada... Really? Didn't Obama state DHS will be covering and processing the paperwork for those that come out of the shadows?
To work and pay taxes, they need a TIN, ITIN, or SSN. That's what the IRS and Social Security Administration states: What about this? The argument that ILLEGAL ALIENS pay taxes is null and void if they don't have these numbers because they can't work if the employers are legally checking and they can't file for a tax refund if they don't have one of these numbers. Do you really think they want to cme out of the shadows when they find out what they have to do?
From the IRS and SSA websites, are the rules in immigrants and I'm certain that ILLEGALs fall into that group:
They need to apply for a Taxpayer Identification Number (TIN), an identification number used by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) in the administration of tax laws. It is issued either by the Social Security Administration (SSA) or by the IRS. A Social Security number (SSN) is issued by the SSA whereas all other TINs are issued by the IRS.
If you are not an immigrant or did not apply for a Social Security number on your immigrant visa application, you must have your papers from DHS showing your U.S. immigration status and authorization to work in the United States. Then you should apply for a SocialSecurity number and card by visiting an office.
If you are not authorized by DHS to work in the United States, you can get a Social Security number only if you can prove you need it for a valid non-work reason. That might happen, for example, if a state or federal law requires you to have a Social Security number to obtain benefits to which you have already established.
If you need a number for tax purposes and you are not authorized to work in the United States, you can apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).
They need to apply for an ITIN, or Individual Taxpayer Identification Number, which is a tax processing number only available for certain nonresident and resident aliens, their spouses, and dependents who cannot get a Social Security Number (SSN). It is a 9-digit number, beginning with the number "9", formatted like an SSN (NNN-NN-NNNN).
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Tax loophole costs billions - ProMT
[ In Reply To ..]Millions of illegal immigrants are getting a bigger tax refund than you. Eyewitness News shows a massive tax loophole that provides billions of dollars in tax credits to undocumented workers and, in many cases, people who have never stepped foot in the United States. And you are paying for it!
How it works
The Internal Revenue Service says everyone who is employed in the United States – even those who are working here illegally – must report income and pay taxes. Of course, undocumented workers are not supposed to have a social security number. So for them to pay taxes, the IRS created what's called an ITIN, an individual taxpayer identification number. A 9-digit ITIN number issued by the IRS provides both resident and nonresident aliens with a unique identification number that allows them to file tax returns.
While that may have seemed like a good idea, it's now backfiring in a big way.
Each spring, at tax preparation offices all across the nation, many illegal immigrants are now eagerly filing tax returns to take advantage of a tax loophole, using their ITIN numbers to get huge refunds from the IRS.
The loophole is called the Additional Child Tax Credit. It's a fully-refundable credit of up to $1000 per child, and it's meant to help working families who have children living at home.
But 13 Investigates has found many undocumented workers are claiming the tax credit for kids who live in Mexico – lots of kids in Mexico.
"We've seen sometimes 10 or 12 dependents, most times nieces and nephews, on these tax forms," the whistleblower told Eyewitness News. "The more you put on there, the more you get back."
The whistleblower has thousands of examples, and he brought some of them to 13 Investigates. While identifying information such as names and addresses on the tax returns was redacted, it was still clear that the tax filers had received large tax refunds after claiming additional child tax credits for many dependents.
"Here's a return right here: we've got a $10,3000 refund for nine nieces and nephews," he said, pointing to the words "niece" and "nephew" listed on the tax forms nine separate times.
"We're getting an $11,000 refund on this tax return. There's seven nieces and nephews," he said, pointing to another set of documents. "I can bring out stacks and stacks. It's just so easy it's ridiculous."
20 kids = $30,000
WTHR spoke to several undocumented workers who confirmed it is easy.
They all agreed to talk with WTHR investigative reporter Bob Segall and a translator as long as WTHR agreed not to reveal their identity.
One of the workers, who was interviewed at his home in southern Indiana, admitted his address was used this year to file tax returns by four other undocumented workers who don't even live there. Those four workers claimed 20 children live inside the one residence and, as a result, the IRS sent the illegal immigrants tax refunds totaling $29,608.
13 Investigates saw only one little girl who lives at that address (a small mobile home). We wondered about the 20 kids claimed as tax deductions?
"They don't live here," said the undocumented worker. "The other kids are in their country of origin, which is Mexico."
He later explained none of the 20 children have ever visited the United States – let alone lived here.
So why should undocumented workers receive tax credits for children living in a foreign country, which is a violation of IRS tax rules?
"If the opportunity is there and they can give it to me, why not take advantage of it?" the worker said.
Other undocumented workers in Indiana told 13 Investigates the same thing. Their families are collecting tax refunds for children who do not live in this country. Several of the workers told WTHR they were told it was legal for them to claim the tax credit for a child who does not live in the United States.
IRS was repeatedly warned
"The magnitude of the problem has grown exponentially," said Russell George, the United States Department of Treasury's Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA).
And he says the IRS has known about the problem for years.
George has repeatedly warned the IRS that additional child tax credits are being abused by undocumented workers. In 2009, his office released an audit report that showed ITIN tax filers received about $1 billion in additional child tax credits. Last year, the inspector general released a new report showing the problem now costs American tax payers more than $4.2 billion.
"Keep in mind, we're talking $4 billion per year," he said. "It's very troubling."
What George finds even more troubling is the IRS has not taken action despite multiple warnings from the inspector general.
"Millions of people are seeking this tax credit who, we believe, are not entitled to it," said the inspector general. "We have made recommendations to [IRS] as to how they could address this, and they have not taken sufficient action in our view to solve the problem."
Other information obtained from the TIGTA audits include:
· Claims for additional child tax credits by ITIN filers have skyrocketed during the past decade, from $161 million in 2001 to $4.2 billion in tax year 2010.
· Undocumented workers filed 3.02 million tax returns in 2010. 72% of those returns (2.18 million) claimed the additional child tax credit.
In 2010, the IRS owed undocumented workers more in claimed additional child tax credits than it collected from those workers in taxes.
I have never heard Obama mention this "crisis/scam."
Link: http://www.wthr.com/story/17798210/tax-loophole-costs-billions
Loophole - anonie
[ In Reply To ..]I watched this on the news out of Indianapolis and it really made me angry
These people declare cousins and anyone eelse living in Mexico as their dependents. That is the reason they get such big refunds. How can IRS look at a person having 24 dependents and not wonder if that were even true. They want to harrangue the rest of us over trivial stuff, but illegals, they take their hands off of.
Most will make so little they won't even have to file. I have no problem with poor people who don't have enough to file for, but they should get treated the same if they have dependents, legal ones and not ones in other countries that they declare are living with them.
Honestly, where did they get those SS numbers to put in. Oh, yes, they stole identities.
We need to go back to the days where people from Mexico came here picked the harvest and went back home. This is not fair to anyone. I know people who don't ant to be on Welfare, etc. including me unless you just have to. No one has any pride in working any longer. Just lay back and be lazy.
Liberty Tax - Sam
[ In Reply To ..]A friend of mine who owns a Liberty Tax franchise in the state of Nevada told me about this very thing three years ago and each successive year he saw it more and more frequently. Word travels fast in the fraud circuit.
Just another reason for ..... - sm
[ In Reply To ..]the Fair Tax to be implemented. It would close loopholes like this. The people who are here illegally would at least be paying some taxes and contributing to the system they are using/abusing so freely.
Oh I know they're getting a larger refund than I am - Truthhurts
[ In Reply To ..]In the past 20 years, we have gotten a refund ONE TIME. We usually have to pay in, especially as self-employed. We lost our last dependent back in 2000 when my mom died.
i didn't know that we could use cousins, neices and nephews as dependents even if they lived in another country. LOL (not really funny though illegal aliens do it).
Never qualified for that EITC either even when the kids were dependents. We are one of those "fall through the cracks" families that you hear about all the time and it's digusting to see some people who break the law and nothing is done.
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